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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: doog on 17 March 2011, 17:16:32
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A friend of my 10 year old son came to visit today and both boys went into my sons bedroom to play xbox
I popped my head in the door and noticed the lad had swastika's all over his hands and arms. I blew my top ran water into the sink and told the lad wash off the swastikas or get out. I explained why i was so angry and the lad claimed he didnt what they stood for.
did i over react? would any of you have done the same?
the boy in question is 11 so i think he understood more than he admits to.
Doug
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A friend of my 10 year old son came to visit today and both boys went into my sons bedroom to play xbox
I popped my head in the door and noticed the lad had swastika's all over his hands and arms. I blew my top ran water into the sink and told the lad wash off the swastikas or get out. I explained why i was so angry and the lad claimed he didnt what they stood for.
did i over react? would any of you have done the same?
the boy in question is 11 so i think he understood more than he admits to.
Doug
I blame the Germans parents.
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I would have done the same ;) ;)
At 11 years old he should know what they mean but in the modern, PC school system it's altogether possible he didn't >:( >:(
At the end of the day you only made him wash his hands and explained why ;) ;)
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Well done Doog!! :y :y :y :y
In my book you did exactly the right thing, and I am sure the lad will not do it again as he will know how wrong it is :y :y :y
However, will his parents know enough to educate their young son? That is my worry!! ::) ::) ::)
There is far too much ignorance about the Nazis, and that is one reason why, whenever I can, I bang on about that terrible period of history, not caring what people think of me! The young must know! :y :y :y :y :y
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It's more likely, sadly, that the boy will tell his parents and they'll do you for assault :(
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I'm sure I drew them when I was that age.
It would be nice if he were innocent. :) :)
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Wasn't it an acient egyptian symbol before the Krouts used it ;)
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It's more likely, sadly, that the boy will tell his parents and they'll do you for assault :(
Precisely. I personally see nothing wrong in what you did but how will his parents react or more to the point how they parent him?
They might react badly or if an elder brother/schoolfriend graffitied him as thier idea of a joke it could all be innocent. I'm not so sure nowadays a lad of that age would be that aware of WW2.
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It's more likely, sadly, that the boy will tell his parents and they'll do you for assault :(
MY HOUSE MY RULES!!
As for assault i never laid a finger on him
i did not tell him to do it, he was given a choice one of them was leaving he chose to stay and wash it off.
If it can be interpreted as assalt i dont care i would do it again I refuse to accept that in my house millions of people died fighting against the nazis and if he didnt know he does now.
i have a huge respect for our armed forces soldiers past and present and will not accept that in my house as the county if full of war memorials with the names of men who died fighting men wearing swastikas
Doug
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Wasn't it an acient egyptian symbol before the Krouts used it ;)
So I am led to believe. It is also means peace.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
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Wasn't it an acient egyptian symbol before the Krouts used it ;)
So I am led to believe. It is also means peace.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
You beat me to it :) It's been in use since 4000BC according to information there.. but despite all that it is definitely taboo in the West, thanks to a certain countries political movement a while back..
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Wasn't it an acient egyptian symbol before the Krouts used it ;)
So I am led to believe. It is also means peace.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
You beat me to it :) It's been in use since 4000BC according to information there.. but despite all that it is definitely taboo in the West, thanks to a certain countries political movement a while back..
That's all very well on here but would an 11 year old boy know that?
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Wasn't it an acient egyptian symbol before the Krouts used it ;)
So I am led to believe. It is also means peace.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
You beat me to it :) It's been in use since 4000BC according to information there.. but despite all that it is definitely taboo in the West, thanks to a certain countries political movement a while back..
That's all very well on here but would an 11 year old boy know that?
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Probably not. I apologise if I have caused offence.
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The strength of your reaction is important, Doug - he now knows that that symbol will never be rehabilitated in 1000 years or more, and more importantly, why it won't be.
I applaud your reaction.
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A friend of my 10 year old son came to visit today and both boys went into my sons bedroom to play xbox
I popped my head in the door and noticed the lad had swastika's all over his hands and arms. I blew my top ran water into the sink and told the lad wash off the swastikas or get out. I explained why i was so angry and the lad claimed he didnt what they stood for.
did i over react? would any of you have done the same?
the boy in question is 11 so i think he understood more than he admits to.
Doug
Hindu good luck symbol.
Also was part of the Finnish flag.
Reclaim it now
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Wasn't it an acient egyptian symbol before the Krouts used it ;)
Hindu mainly but also LOTS of other cultures
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Well done Doog!! :y :y :y :y
In my book you did exactly the right thing, and I am sure the lad will not do it again as he will know how wrong it is :y :y :y
However, will his parents know enough to educate their young son? That is my worry!! ::) ::) ::)
There is far too much ignorance about the Nazis, and that is one reason why, whenever I can, I bang on about that terrible period of history, not caring what people think of me! The young must know! :y :y :y :y :y
Time to reclaim its original meaning.
Also the Native Americans used it a lot
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Black one on white circle on red rectangle - wrong
Carved on Hindu temple, Red Indian clothes - right
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We may have missed the point here, what game were they playing.....?
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We may have missed the point here, what game were they playing.....?
CoD: World at War? :o
anyway i'd have done the same - maybe he learned something today - well done :y
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I would have done the same, As it does stand for other things the liklihood of that and the fact that the german one will be more in the minds at that age,
Well done good on ya a parent with sense,
:y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y
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Since so many are saying they would do the same I'll nail my colours to the mast.
Yes, I think you over-reacted. Unless you personally suffered at the hands of the Nazis and he knew that, a "word of advice" would have been much more appropriate IMV.
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Since so many are saying they would do the same I'll nail my colours to the mast.
Yes, I think you over-reacted. Unless you personally suffered at the hands of the Nazis and he knew that, a "word of advice" would have been much more appropriate IMV.
i agree a word of advice and explanation of what the symbol means would have done but as you say your house your rules :y
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We may have missed the point here, what game were they playing.....?
CoD: World at War? :o
anyway i'd have done the same - maybe he learned something today - well done :y
They were playing Bulletstorm not war type games
and he had it when he entered the house i didnt spot in at the time
Doug
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Being totally honest, I don't agree with him having the Nazi symbol on him, but it wouldn't have bothered me that much, probably wouldn't have even mentioned it :-/
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Since so many are saying they would do the same I'll nail my colours to the mast.
Yes, I think you over-reacted. Unless you personally suffered at the hands of the Nazis and he knew that, a "word of advice" would have been much more appropriate IMV.
I dont thing its relevant whether i suffered at the hands of the nazis he wasnt staying in MY house with that on his arms.
While setting up for a school disco today for comic relief i asked one of the teachers who says he would have knows the significance of it by primary 7
i stand by my actions
Doug
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Since so many are saying they would do the same I'll nail my colours to the mast.
Yes, I think you over-reacted. Unless you personally suffered at the hands of the Nazis and he knew that, a "word of advice" would have been much more appropriate IMV.
I dont thing its relevant whether i suffered at the hands of the nazis he wasnt staying in MY house with that on his arms.
While setting up for a school disco today for comic relief i asked one of the teachers who says he would have knows the significance of it by primary 7
i stand by my actions
Doug
fair play but obviously you are not sure if you was right hence asking if we agree
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i stand by my actions
Doug
Fair enough Doog - your house, your rules.
Probably not worth asking people if they thought you over reacted, though - as it sounds like you are convinced you did the right thing :y
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Since so many are saying they would do the same I'll nail my colours to the mast.
Yes, I think you over-reacted. Unless you personally suffered at the hands of the Nazis and he knew that, a "word of advice" would have been much more appropriate IMV.
All the generations of today either have suffered, or are suffering from the actions of the Nazis.
Various familiy members have been missing due to them in many families; the country was brought to its knees and ruined by the Nazis, which still affects us today either financially, materially, or psychologly; a whole generation was "damaged" by war, and that has impacted on us all today, including our children, with the family, social, problems of now originating to WW2!
So, yes we have all been affected by the Nazis, and we are still suffering from their activities! :'( :'( :'(
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i stand by my actions
Doug
Fair enough Doog - your house, your rules.
Probably not worth asking people if they thought you over reacted, though - as it sounds like you are convinced you did the right thing :y
at the time of the post i thought " shit should i have done that " but having had time to think about it i am convinced i was right so hence to first post made by me
to be honest id rather it had not happend but i wasnt prepaired to ignore it
it is perhaps one of only a few things i would object to and to be fair to the lad ive probably done him a favour cos he wont do it again.
Doug
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bit of an over reaction in my opinion. i would have preferred to explain to him that he will probably get his head kicked in if he continued to wear the swastikas.
just a kid in my book who obviously aint got a clue what it means
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i stand by my actions
Doug
Fair enough Doog - your house, your rules.
Probably not worth asking people if they thought you over reacted, though - as it sounds like you are convinced you did the right thing :y
at the time of the post i thought " shit should i have done that " but having had time to think about it i am convinced i was right so hence to first post made by me
to be honest id rather it had not happend but i wasnt prepaired to ignore it
it is perhaps one of only a few things i would object to and to be fair to the lad ive probably done him a favour cos he wont do it again.Doug
until 2 am when out comes the grafiti paint and he does a big swastika on your front door ;D