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Title: Super Moon: Thank you Daily Mail
Post by: Banjax on 19 March 2011, 08:48:36
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1365225/Japan-earthquake-tsunami-Did-supermoon-cause-todays-natural-disaster.html


yeah, Daily Fail - that, or God, or immigrants, or benefit cheats  ;D ;D ;D


but thank you, just in case any of your delusional readers actually still thought they were reading a proper paper  ;D ;D ;D

brilliant. ;)
Title: Re: Super Moon: Thank you Daily Mail
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 19 March 2011, 13:27:16
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I think BJ I'd sooner believe all that is contained within:

http://revelation13.net/

 ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Super Moon: Thank you Daily Mail
Post by: Mysteryman on 19 March 2011, 14:51:06
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1365225/Japan-earthquake-tsunami-Did-supermoon-cause-todays-natural-disaster.html


yeah, Daily Fail - that, or God, or immigrants, or benefit cheats  ;D ;D ;D


but thank you, just in case any of your delusional readers actually still thought they were reading a proper paper  ;D ;D ;D

brilliant. ;)


What? That sounds reasonable to me. It could be true, you never know. ;D
Title: Re: Super Moon: Thank you Daily Mail
Post by: mantahatch on 19 March 2011, 15:01:19
I am not a particular fan of any newspaper, but I think the article may have been a bit tongue in cheek. I quote:

'There is no established correlation between variations in the orbit of the moon and either the number or magnitude of earthquakes.

'It is all too easy, with hindsight, to link major earthquakes to variations in all sort of parameters.

'The real test is to look at the vast numbers of earthquakes of all magnitudes that occur on a daily basis worldwide.
Title: Re: Super Moon: Thank you Daily Mail
Post by: Nickbat on 19 March 2011, 15:06:24
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1365225/Japan-earthquake-tsunami-Did-supermoon-cause-todays-natural-disaster.html


yeah, Daily Fail - that, or God, or immigrants, or benefit cheats  ;D ;D ;D


but thank you, just in case any of your delusional readers actually still thought they were reading a proper paper  ;D ;D ;D

brilliant. ;)


Once again, you are trying to deride the Daily Mail and yet your post misses the point entirely.  ::)

It is well known that stories about the "super moon" have been doing the rounds a lot on the internet over the past week or so. The headline in the Mail carries a question mark, reflecting the fact that it is a question that many people have posed. It then goes on to debunk the theory rather thoroughly. So, in fact, it's the Daily Mail doing a very good "Snopes"-type piece and reflects rather well on the journalists who keep a finger on the pulse of the internet.  :y
Title: Re: Super Moon: Thank you Daily Mail
Post by: Banjax on 19 March 2011, 15:54:57
Is the Japanese earthquake the latest natural disaster to have been caused by a 'supermoon'?


No.
Title: Re: Super Moon: Thank you Daily Mail
Post by: Nickbat on 19 March 2011, 15:57:57
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Is the Japanese earthquake the latest natural disaster to have been caused by a 'supermoon'?


No.


...your point being what exactly? :-?
Title: Re: Super Moon: Thank you Daily Mail
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 19 March 2011, 16:05:24
The actual fact is of course that scientists have noted that the Moon is moving very slowly away from the Earth. Its effects on not only the tides, but the length of the day due to a slowing of the Earth's rotation will become evident, but not in our life time.  It is calculated that the angle of the Earth, and its stability will falter, with a definate "wobble" being induced as the Moon travels ever further outward and its gravitational 'pull' declining.

So in short many centuries ago the Moon was closer than it is today, so the effects were greater then than now.  A Moon traveling its closest to the Earth since, if I remember correctly, 2002 comes to nought.

Therefore yes, the Daily Mail are creating yet another story to excite its readership and sell copy! ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: Super Moon: Thank you Daily Mail
Post by: Banjax on 19 March 2011, 16:05:26
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1365225/Japan-earthquake-tsunami-Did-supermoon-cause-todays-natural-disaster.html


yeah, Daily Fail - that, or God, or immigrants, or benefit cheats  ;D ;D ;D


but thank you, just in case any of your delusional readers actually still thought they were reading a proper paper  ;D ;D ;D

brilliant. ;)


Once again, you are trying to deride the Daily Mail and yet your post misses the point entirely.  ::)

It is well known that stories about the "super moon" have been doing the rounds a lot on the internet over the past week or so. The headline in the Mail carries a question mark, reflecting the fact that it is a question that many people have posed. It then goes on to debunk the theory rather thoroughly. So, in fact, it's the Daily Mail doing a very good "Snopes"-type piece and reflects rather well on the journalists who keep a finger on the pulse of the internet.  :y

this is the latest in a line of articles "The Fail" has published (most, I note now pulled from its website) on Supermoon related catastrophes since the Japanese quake. Yep trawling the net for pseudo-science and spurious astrology b.s. doesn't come across as desperate filler for the gullible at all  ;D
Title: Re: Super Moon: Thank you Daily Mail
Post by: Nickbat on 19 March 2011, 16:32:57
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The actual fact is of course that scientists have noted that the Moon is moving very slowly away from the Earth. Its effects on not only the tides, but the length of the day due to a slowing of the Earth's rotation will become evident, but not in our life time.  It is calculated that the angle of the Earth, and its stability will falter, with a definate "wobble" being induced as the Moon travels ever further outward and its gravitational 'pull' declining.

So in short many centuries ago the Moon was closer than it is today, so the effects were greater then than now.  A Moon traveling its closest to the Earth since, if I remember correctly, 2002 comes to nought.

Therefore yes, the Daily Mail are creating yet another story to excite its readership and sell copy! ::) ::) ;)

No, the Daily Mail is debunking an established and almost viral internet story. It is not creating a story, the story is already there.
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Furthermore, it is strange that you should decry the fact that a newspaper should publish a story of interest to sell copy. I thought that was their aim.  ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Super Moon: Thank you Daily Mail
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 19 March 2011, 16:39:13
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The actual fact is of course that scientists have noted that the Moon is moving very slowly away from the Earth. Its effects on not only the tides, but the length of the day due to a slowing of the Earth's rotation will become evident, but not in our life time.  It is calculated that the angle of the Earth, and its stability will falter, with a definate "wobble" being induced as the Moon travels ever further outward and its gravitational 'pull' declining.

So in short many centuries ago the Moon was closer than it is today, so the effects were greater then than now.  A Moon traveling its closest to the Earth since, if I remember correctly, 2002 comes to nought.

Therefore yes, the Daily Mail are creating yet another story to excite its readership and sell copy! ::) ::) ;)

No, the Daily Mail is debunking an established and almost viral internet story. It is not creating a story, the story is already there.
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Furthermore, it is strange that you should decry the fact that a newspaper should publish a story of interest to sell copy. I thought that was their aim.  ::) ::) ::) ::)


Eh???  I thought we had agreed on this forum that all the tabloids spread unnecessary alarm, stupid, below average intelligence, and plainly bad informed stories, which should be condemned as it does not actually help anyone but the shareholders of those rags?!

All the D.Mail has done is print a story to excite.  The quality papers generally do not.  Which is right or wrong? 

Personally I wish the circulation of the quality papers went up and the rest go down, but of course our educational system will ensure that never happens! ::) ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: Super Moon: Thank you Daily Mail
Post by: Nickbat on 19 March 2011, 17:03:41
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Eh???  I thought we had agreed on this forum that all the tabloids spread unnecessary alarm, stupid, below average intelligence, and plainly bad informed stories, which should be condemned as it does not actually help anyone but the shareholders of those rags?!

All the D.Mail has done is print a story to excite.  The quality papers generally do not.  Which is right or wrong? 

Personally I wish the circulation of the quality papers went up and the rest go down, but of course our educational system will ensure that never happens! ::) ::) ::) ;)

Blatant baseless snobbery. All newspapers, whether tabloid or not, have a tendency to over-egg the pudding in order to sell more copy. There is no evidence, however, that the so-called "quality" papers are necessarily less guilty of printing utter cr*p from time to time...it's just in a different font and uses more syllables. ::)
Title: Re: Super Moon: Thank you Daily Mail
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 19 March 2011, 17:11:14
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Eh???  I thought we had agreed on this forum that all the tabloids spread unnecessary alarm, stupid, below average intelligence, and plainly badly informed stories, which should be condemned as it does not actually help anyone but the shareholders of those rags?!

All the D.Mail has done is print a story to excite.  The quality papers generally do not.  Which is right or wrong? 

Personally I wish the circulation of the quality papers went up and the rest go down, but of course our educational system will ensure that never happens! ::) ::) ::) ;)

Blatant baseless snobbery. All newspapers, whether tabloid or not, have a tendency to over-egg the pudding in order to sell more copy. There is no evidence, however, that the so-called "quality" papers are necessarily less guilty of printing utter cr*p from time to time...it's just in a different font and uses more syllables. ::)


So you would place the Sun equal to the Times, Guardian, or D.Telegraph then Nick?

And by the way you overlooked my word of "generally"!!

Right, ok!  Nevermind
Title: Re: Super Moon: Thank you Daily Mail
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 March 2011, 17:50:08
just from my mind

the pulling force between two planets is Gm1m2 / r2

where G is universal gravitation constant, m1 and m2 are the masses of the objects(planets) and r is the distance between..

so you decide ;)
Title: Re: Super Moon: Thank you Daily Mail
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 19 March 2011, 17:56:23
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just from my mind

the pulling force between two planets is Gm1m2 / r2

where G is universal gravitation constant, m1 and m2 are the masses of the objects(planets) and r is the distance between..

so you decide ;)


Thanks Einstein! ;D ;D ;D  Sorry, Cem! :y :y :y

I wish I could use that fact somehow 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
Title: Re: Super Moon: Thank you Daily Mail
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 March 2011, 17:59:08
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just from my mind

the pulling force between two planets is Gm1m2 / r2

where G is universal gravitation constant, m1 and m2 are the masses of the objects(planets) and r is the distance between..

so you decide ;)


Thanks Einstein! ;D ;D ;D  Sorry, Cem! :y :y :y

I wish I could use that fact somehow 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

thanks Lizzie :y
Title: Re: Super Moon: Thank you Daily Mail
Post by: Amigo on 19 March 2011, 23:26:58
Tabloids are full of sensation news & celebrity based. Broadsheets use their huge pages to drag out what could be said in a few sentences.
   Hardly worth a light TBH. ::)
Title: Re: Super Moon: Thank you Daily Mail
Post by: Vamps on 19 March 2011, 23:37:08
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I think BJ I'd sooner believe all that is contained within:

http://revelation13.net/

 ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)

No point in worrying about my overdraft then...... ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Super Moon: Thank you Daily Mail
Post by: tidla on 19 March 2011, 23:41:36
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I think BJ I'd sooner believe all that is contained within:

http://revelation13.net/

 ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)

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