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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: aaronjb on 18 March 2011, 22:13:49
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So this is an old documentary, but I wondered if anyone else had seen it?
I know views will be polarised to two extremes; 1) it's his own damn fault, let him sink and 2) he has a genuine problem.. personally I can empathise greatly (being very overweight myself) and don't subscribe to the "he should just stop eating!" viewpoint..
Anyway, two things struck me:
1) The doctor treating him, who said "For some reason society now sees it as unacceptable to be hungry. If you're hungry you have a snack to 'tide you over' till the next meal. Well that's wrong. You don't see a lion having a chipmunk just to tide him over till the next antelope.."
2) Isn't it ironic that the two helpers he has look after him are thin, very attractive, relatively young, women.. I don't know about you but I'd find that utterly frustrating! ;D
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/britains-fattest-man
Cliffe Notes: Was young, fit and healthy, lost a relationship, lost his dad and ended up looking after his elderly bed-ridden mother, turned to food, cut to 20 years later and he's 60-70st..
(I know I'm going to regret posting this, aren't I..)
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(I know I'm going to regret posting this, aren't I..)
Probably knowing the crowd thatfrequent on here at night. Wondering where STMO is and is he allready typing. :-X :-/
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(I know I'm going to regret posting this, aren't I..)
Probably knowing the crowd thatfrequent on here at night. Wondering where STMO is and is he allready typing. :-X :-/
;D Yep, the skinny folk will appear soon to decree all fat people fit for nothing but killing off ;)
One thing that always astounds me - laporascopic surgery (keyhole surgery).. Quite how you learn the dexterity and spatial awareness skills to operate through three small holes with long tools like that is beyond me!
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I'm six-one and weigh fourteen stone. At a recent routine check up the nurse told me I was about a stone above my ideal weight. I informed her I'm big-boned not fat:y :y ;D ;D ;D
Quite frankly...if you are a little too heavy or a little too skinny it matter's little. Obesity is a big problem in this country however. Especially in children. ;)
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I'm six-one and weigh fourteen stone. At a recent routine check up the nurse told me I was about a stone above my ideal weight. I informed her I'm big-boned not fat:y :y ;D ;D ;D
Quite frankly...if you are a little too heavy or a little too skinny it matter's little. Obesity is a big problem in this country however. Especially in children. ;)
I agree with you there - as the surgeon on that show said; if we don't tackle the problem now (at the root) it'll be something that breaks the NHS in 20 years..
Assuming we still have an NHS in 20 years ;D
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I must admit Aaron. I do like an extra pinch of feminine flesh on a woman. :y :y :y
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Some people are brought up by their families and fed too much, others are just greedy and lazy. There are too many of the latter around at the moment, and as said, it will put huge strain on the NHS in years to come :(
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I must admit Aaron. I do like an extra pinch of feminine flesh on a woman. :y :y :y
;) "Rubenesque" ;)
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I'm six-one and weigh fourteen stone. At a recent routine check up the nurse told me I was about a stone above my ideal weight. I informed her I'm big-boned not fat:y :y ;D ;D ;D
Quite frankly...if you are a little too heavy or a little too skinny it matter's little. Obesity is a big problem in this country however. Especially in children. ;)
im just under that & a measly 10 & half stone. makes me about a stone underweight. ;)
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I'm six-one and weigh fourteen stone. At a recent routine check up the nurse told me I was about a stone above my ideal weight. I informed her I'm big-boned not fat:y :y ;D ;D ;D
Quite frankly...if you are a little too heavy or a little too skinny it matter's little. Obesity is a big problem in this country however. Especially in children. ;)
im just under that & a measly 10 & half stone. makes me about a stone underweight. ;)
Likewise, or sometimes even less.... ::) ::) ::)
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I'm 6ft4/5 (i should really check!) I weigh 12 stone, which is about right now, maybe about 1/2 stone under what I should be at my height.
I had a full check up a month back by one of the nurses on our private health care (rather attractive nurse she was too :-*)
All my cholesterol, blood pressure ect was normal. I do cycle to work sometimes, which is 5 miles each way and back, so that helps balance out the beer and junk food i eat!
For me, I think its a lack of exercise these days, everything can be done from a computer, order food, have it delivered, stay in contact with friends. Fatty foods & no physical exercise :(
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I'm six-one and weigh fourteen stone. At a recent routine check up the nurse told me I was about a stone above my ideal weight. I informed her I'm big-boned not fat:y :y ;D ;D ;D
Quite frankly...if you are a little too heavy or a little too skinny it matter's little. Obesity is a big problem in this country however. Especially in children. ;)
No such thing. :-X (Sits back and "weights" for the excuses)
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I must admit Aaron. I do like an extra pinch of feminine flesh on a woman. :y :y :y
reminded me of benny hill in the italian job.
(http://i1045.photobucket.com/albums/b460/tapper888/B72690Benny-Hill-Posters.jpg)
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I must admit Aaron. I do like an extra pinch of feminine flesh on a woman. :y :y :y
Ditto.. most of my exes have been rubinesque, all except one actually.. granted one of them looked a bit like Shrek, but two (one thin and one not) were gorgeous (IMHO, of course!)
I wish I could claim to be your weights, though! I'm 5'9" and 27st :-/ always been overweight (for as long as I can remember, so at least back to 7-8) and it's accelerated as I've got older.
I know if I drop back to 1200-1500kcal a day I can lose 1-2lb a week, which would see me back at 'ideal' in 2-3 years.. 'course if you calculate my RMR and how many kcal I 'theoretically' expend per day, I ought to lose weight at 5-6lb a week on that diet and annoyingly I've known people who can do just that.. just like I reckon some of you would be surprised what I (don't) eat in a day normally, yet am like this ;)
Such is life, eh!
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I must admit Aaron. I do like an extra pinch of feminine flesh on a woman. :y :y :y
Oooh no, no ,no Opti.
She must be a size 10 max, 5'11" - 6' tall, 32 A in bust size, have long flowing hair, with eyes displaying untold depth and a voice of the most mellifluous tone, her lips should be so inviting to the point where One can only but surrender immediately to their caress and all these attributes under orders from a brain the size of a small island.
Finally and perhaps most importantly this woman must have the spirit of a warrior and the compassion of one who always seeks to find the best in others and who will always give of her best in return.
Do I ask for too much?
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Do I ask for too much?
Yes.
;D
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I must admit Aaron. I do like an extra pinch of feminine flesh on a woman. :y :y :y
Oooh no, no ,no Opti.
She must be a size 10 max, 5'11" - 6' tall, 32 A in bust size, have long flowing hair, with eyes displaying untold depth and a voice of the most mellifluous tone, her lips should be so inviting to the point where One can only but surrender immediately to their caress and all these attributes under orders from a brain the size of a small island.
Finally and perhaps most importantly this woman must have the spirit of a warrior and the compassion of one who always seeks to find the best in others and who will always give of her best in return.
Do I ask for too much?
I do hope you are waiting till she is 16... :D :D :D
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I must admit Aaron. I do like an extra pinch of feminine flesh on a woman. :y :y :y
Ditto.. most of my exes have been rubinesque, all except one actually.. granted one of them looked a bit like Shrek, but two (one thin and one not) were gorgeous (IMHO, of course!)
I wish I could claim to be your weights, though! I'm 5'9" and 27st :-/ always been overweight (for as long as I can remember, so at least back to 7-8) and it's accelerated as I've got older.
I know if I drop back to 1200-1500kcal a day I can lose 1-2lb a week, which would see me back at 'ideal' in 2-3 years.. 'course if you calculate my RMR and how many kcal I 'theoretically' expend per day, I ought to lose weight at 5-6lb a week on that diet and annoyingly I've known people who can do just that.. just like I reckon some of you would be surprised what I (don't) eat in a day normally, yet am like this ;)
Such is life, eh!
Exercise is the key mate, you can eat what you want if you exercise enough. I used to do quite a strenuous job and there was a point at which I was stuffing my face because I wanted to put weight on.
I do a fair bit of mountain biking in the warm weather and find that I can eat a lot more without putting weight on. If you just wait for a diet to lose your weight, you'll just deprive yourself all the time for a very slow result, not much fun at all
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I must admit Aaron. I do like an extra pinch of feminine flesh on a woman. :y :y :y
Oooh no, no ,no Opti.
She must be a size 10 max, 5'11" - 6' tall, 32 A in bust size, have long flowing hair, with eyes displaying untold depth and a voice of the most mellifluous tone, her lips should be so inviting to the point where One can only but surrender immediately to their caress and all these attributes under orders from a brain the size of a small island.
Finally and perhaps most importantly this woman must have the spirit of a warrior and the compassion of one who always seeks to find the best in others and who will always give of her best in return.
Do I ask for too much?
I'm nursing a semi now thanks to your eloquent words Z.... :D ;)
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I must admit Aaron. I do like an extra pinch of feminine flesh on a woman. :y :y :y
;) "Rubenesque" ;)
Even the word is sexy.....Ms Debs... :-* :-*
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Exercise is the key mate, you can eat what you want if you exercise enough. I used to do quite a strenuous job and there was a point at which I was stuffing my face because I wanted to put weight on.
I do a fair bit of mountain biking in the warm weather and find that I can eat a lot more without putting weight on. If you just wait for a diet to lose your weight, you'll just deprive yourself all the time for a very slow result, not much fun at all
You're quite right, of course - I've always been very sedentary (and as a child, shy and retiring so no running around with other kids for me) - had a desk job my whole life and never managed to get 'into' the gym the way some people do..
Past a certain point my insecurities got the better of me and I couldn't face going to a gym anymore (being the fattest bloke in there is just.. embarrassing) and getting motivated to exercise at home is definitely not easy when there are a thousand more interesting things to do ;)
I suppose one day I'll either get my head around it all and lose weight ... or it'll kill me. One or the other, probably the latter.
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You don't need to be 'doing the gym' mate - actually, despite being quite fit and active, I hate the gym, I'd rather be out in the fresh air cycling or walking. Just having a walk in a nice area every day where you just get a little breathless is a good start. I'm fortunate where I live, I have the Brecon Beacons national park on my doorstep :)
It's always worth losing a bit of weight if you're that heavy, your everyday life will be so much easier. It's never too late, it can be done. Best of luck
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I seem to recall that the heaviest man in Britain was a guy named Barry. He still lives in Birmingham if memory serves.
Whatever became of him?. I believe he weighed in at over 50 stone.....!!!!
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I seem to recall that the heaviest man in Britain was a guy named Barry. He still lives in Birmingham if memory serves.
Whatever became of him?. I believe he weighed in at over 50 stone.....!!!!
Have a look at this, Barry only lives up the road from me...
www.celebritydietdoctor.com/barry-austin-loses-title-as-heaviest-man-in-britain/
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I seem to recall that the heaviest man in Britain was a guy named Barry. He still lives in Birmingham if memory serves.
Whatever became of him?. I believe he weighed in at over 50 stone.....!!!!
Have a look at this, Barry only lives up the road from me...
www.celebritydietdoctor.com/barry-austin-loses-title-as-heaviest-man-in-britain/
Yep.....that's the fella Pippin.... :y
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I saw the documentary in January.
I really don't know what to say. But it's like any addiction/compulsive disorder (i.e. gambling, spending, smoking, drugs, alcohol etc) the only person that can ultimately stop is themself. And they need to want to.
What sickens me the most is the burden obesity has on the NHS. It's shocking, and the reason for the majority of obesity is simply indulgence. Having too much of a good thing.
Why should we have to pay for the treatment of peoples' self-inflicted health problems? Someone chooses to binge drink, someone chooses to smoke 40 a day, someone chooses to eat way too much unhealthy food and then after a period of regular consumption it becomes routine and habit.
I strongly believe that anyone overweight (how ever much it is) is capable of losing it naturally if they WANT to. Will power and mental strength is key...and obviously the desire and need to as well.
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when I was about 21 or 22, I went to the doctors (can't remember what for) and was weighed.
I was 5'8 and 14st.
the doctor said I was "at least" 2 1/2 stones overweight.
At the time, i was training for an international Jiu Jitsu competition, and running 13 miles a day (in two sessions to and from work).
I was probably about 8% body fat
On the other hand, I'm about 17st now - and probably am 3 or 4 stone overweight.
The easiest way to tell (according to my coach of the time).
Go to the swimming pool, get in the deep end, and breathe out.
If you float, you're overweight.
If you sink, you're not.
As to eating disorders/obesity etc.
I see it as a mental illness, as much as anorexia.
And I think the sufferers should receive more sympathy - and help.
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I'm practically an identical build to tunnie, but a confirmed 6'4
i fought extremely hard to put weight on last year after never in 29 years being happy with myself, got up to just under 14 stone, from eating right and weight training, then dropped to 11˝ in the first 3 months of this year due to personal issues
i've managed to get myself back to just above 12 stone (measured at night after a big poo) but i know i'll struggle to get heavier unless i work at it tirelessly, but the problem is, like many people, those who work tirelessly to climb to a certain goal weight tend to be those who are doing it as a hobby as much as other stuff, ie body builders, and they have to follow such a heavy disciplined method. Since i'm not specifically interested in body building as a hobby, i find it shockingly hard to motivate myself and even to eat right, even though i generally do eat good food
some people deal with emotional issues differently, some eat for comfort, and some lose appetite (me)
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The only time i ever put on weight was when I was an IT techy at a School (free lunches!) I put on a stone in year, which is unheard of for me.
Just a month or so after leaving, the weight fell off....
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coming back to the original topic, i'm torn between feeling sympathy for the bloke and feeling angry with him.
on one side of the coin there is the sympathy cos the guy obvious has psychological problems but then there's the the other side which thinks take some personal responsibility for your own health.
one thing i have never ever understood is as follows:
i watched the programme on the then britains fattest man (lad from brummy land who watched birmingham city every week). he went out every saturday with his mates after the football, ate 8 currys and drank 40 pints of beer.
sorry but as the bloke is so fat and cant work wher the f*ck does he get the money to eat and drink like that everyday??????? :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/
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(I know I'm going to regret posting this, aren't I..)
Probably knowing the crowd thatfrequent on here at night. Wondering where STMO is and is he allready typing. :-X :-/
Sorry Skrunts, I missed this altogether.
Kill the fat bastaard!
Happy now? :)
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i found this. i thought it was a kid in a fat suit at first :o :o :o :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6j6GcP3-uQ&feature=related
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i found this. i thought it was a kid in a fat suit at first :o :o :o :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6j6GcP3-uQ&feature=related
That's either got to be a serious medical condition or her parents should be jailed.
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i found this. i thought it was a kid in a fat suit at first :o :o :o :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6j6GcP3-uQ&feature=related
Sorry, but the parents should be jailed for the state this girl is in, she can't even stand up by the look of it >:(
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nope, no med condition.
how the parents could let her get like that is beyond me. at the end of the day thats child abuse!!!!
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heres a proper success story though.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znI0ylM_dzI
the mother had a son before who died at 19 months of a brain tumor. she gave him everything he wanted (including all the food) as she didnt want to deprive him of anything or lose another son. ironically thats exactly what she was doing: deprivin him of a life and losing him to morbid obesity.
well ive read he's doing real well with his excercise programme and he's down to 29st 12lb. still has a way to go but good luck to the lad. :y :y :y :y
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You don't need to be 'doing the gym' mate - actually, despite being quite fit and active, I hate the gym, I'd rather be out in the fresh air cycling or walking. Just having a walk in a nice area every day where you just get a little breathless is a good start. I'm fortunate where I live, I have the Brecon Beacons national park on my doorstep :)
It's always worth losing a bit of weight if you're that heavy, your everyday life will be so much easier. It's never too late, it can be done. Best of luck
True that - I fished the bike out of the garage this weekend .. not convinced the wheels will hold my weight, but I bet the steel frame will. Might need some air in the tyres first, though :-[
Also spent the entire weekend getting very out of breath working on the house - beating the remains of a wall out of the ground, digging a rhododendron out, building a new wall & door on a lean-to shed.. oh and digging a big chunk of flesh out of my head when I walked into the edge of the metal shed >:( :'( still, all good exercise (and my head finally stopped bleeding without needing stitches ;D)
On the success stories front (following on from Webby) - there was a bloke recently in the US who lost 400lb and had a really inspiring story.. http://www.oddee.com/item_96622.aspx - second one down (David Smith)
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I seem to recall that the heaviest man in Britain was a guy named Barry. He still lives in Birmingham if memory serves.
Whatever became of him?. I believe he weighed in at over 50 stone.....!!!!
Have a look at this, Barry only lives up the road from me...
www.celebritydietdoctor.com/barry-austin-loses-title-as-heaviest-man-in-britain/
Aghh I hate weight in pounds - meaningless
Stones or Kilogrammes please!