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Title: Greanpeace in our time
Post by: Nickbat on 19 June 2011, 09:37:43
So it turns out the latest "scientific" report from the IPCC which claims that, within 40 years, nearly 80 per cent of the world's energy needs could be met from renewable sources, is based solely on a paper co-authored last year by an employee of Greenpeace International and something called the European Renewable Energy Council. This Brussels-based body, heavily funded by the EU, lobbies the European Commission on behalf of all the main renewable industries, such as wind and solar.

No science, of course. Just vested-interest propaganda.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/8584210/The-IPCC-declares-Greenpeace-in-our-time.html

Scam, scam, scam.  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) >:(
Title: Re: Greanpeace in our time
Post by: Banjax on 19 June 2011, 10:26:59
presumably, when the oil runs out, everything will run on fairy dust, an oft overlooked resource created by the wishes and dreams of deniers everywhere  :)

good luck with that
Title: Re: Greanpeace in our time
Post by: albitz on 19 June 2011, 10:52:42
So  - its oil or windmills, nothing in between ? ::)
Title: Re: Greanpeace in our time
Post by: Kevin Wood on 19 June 2011, 11:35:59
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So  - its oil or windmills, nothing in between ? ::)

Well, there's always going back to live in the trees. Or n****** oh, can't talk about that, of course.

I look forward to the first wind powered airliner. Or perhaps we'll all end up flying gliders. No problem with me as long as they let me drive. 8-)
Title: Re: Greanpeace in our time
Post by: mkirky on 19 June 2011, 11:48:35
With the amount of white goods gadgets and other electrical equipment people now expect in there homes ,and the large demand for electricity generally in this and other countries .The only efficent way to produce this amount of electricity is Nuclear as windmills and other so called renewable sources dont produce enough power(megawatts).
Title: Re: Greanpeace in our time
Post by: albitz on 19 June 2011, 12:26:40
The energy secretary chris Huhne, believes nuclear power is evil, so he forces UK power companies to shut down their power stations for a day or so periodically to prevent them exceeding their carbon limits - and then they have to buy their energy in from France. Energy produced in French nuclear power stations, mostly situated near the northern coast, so much closer to heavily populated areas of the UK then heavily populated areas of France.
One might be tempted to think of him as a hypocritical sleazy, power crazy little crook. Just like most other Liberals are. ;) :D
Title: Re: Greanpeace in our time
Post by: Kevin Wood on 19 June 2011, 15:40:34
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The energy secretary chris Huhne, believes nuclear power is evil, so he forces UK power companies to shut down their power stations for a day or so periodically to prevent them exceeding their carbon limits - and then they have to buy their energy in from France. Energy produced in French nuclear power stations, mostly situated near the northern coast, so much closer to heavily populated areas of the UK then heavily populated areas of France.
One might be tempted to think of him as a hypocritical sleazy, power crazy little crook. Just like most other Liberals are. ;) :D

Hasn't that cretin been nicked for that speeding ticket business yet or have a few brown paper envelopes been exchanged to make it go away? ::)
Title: Re: Greanpeace in our time
Post by: albitz on 19 June 2011, 15:47:13
His "perverting the course of justice" investigation seems to have gone quiet recently. ::)
Title: Re: Greanpeace in our time
Post by: Banjax on 19 June 2011, 18:58:04
what about nuclear powered windmills? :y
Title: Re: Greanpeace in our time
Post by: albitz on 19 June 2011, 19:34:10
The university of East Anglia would pay you a lot of money for that idea. :y ;D..........and the govt will give them 100% grant to pay for it. ::)
Title: Re: Greanpeace in our time
Post by: TheBoy on 19 June 2011, 19:43:09
Trouble is, although the Japanese episode demostrated how safe nuclear is, the media went for the sensationalist hype bullshit. This means the masses are anti nuclear
Title: Re: Greanpeace in our time
Post by: feeutfo on 19 June 2011, 20:28:12
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what about nuclear powered windmills? :y
Nope. Petrol powered. With supercharger/ turbo and "Naaaas". But only for when there's no wind.  :D
Title: Re: Greanpeace in our time
Post by: Kieran on 19 June 2011, 21:17:38
Being green is just another way to tax us more, it is a complete waste of time given how the volcanoes have spewed out more crap than man produces. Oil is not in short supply it is just more difficult to get to, but the oil companies have got that sussed, look at the price at the pump now and how much oil companies are making. Makes the penny of a litre seem a con from the last budget. Isn't it strange that as soon as car companies start selling more economical cars, thanks to the last con by the government ie trade in your old car and get £2000.00 of a new one, the price of petrol soars. Could this be down to the goverment realising that the more economical cars on the road means less fuel being sold hence less revenue, same for the oil companies. We are all being sold a lie and we are not being helped by these so called green parties.
Rant over but it does get on my nerves >:(
Title: Re: Greanpeace in our time
Post by: albitz on 19 June 2011, 21:27:45
Professor Littlejohn again. Its pretty hilarious reading imo.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2004463/Cooler-Earth-The-Ice-Age-coming--dont-panic.html
Title: Re: Greanpeace in our time
Post by: 2woody on 19 June 2011, 22:47:47
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Trouble is, although the Japanese episode demostrated how safe nuclear is, the media went for the sensationalist hype bullshit. This means the masses are anti nuclear

actually, didn't the Japanese thing show just how safe nuclear power is ? I mean after an earthquake, tsunami and major is-handling, there was still a relatively small level of contamination, etc. No-one died. That sounds like a good advert to me.
Title: Re: Greanpeace in our time
Post by: aaronjb on 19 June 2011, 23:01:03
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Trouble is, although the Japanese episode demostrated how safe nuclear is, the media went for the sensationalist hype bullshit. This means the masses are anti nuclear

actually, didn't the Japanese thing show just how safe nuclear power is ? I mean after an earthquake, tsunami and major is-handling, there was still a relatively small level of contamination, etc. No-one died. That sounds like a good advert to me.

I think that's what TB is saying - to the educated (few, it seems) it's a great advert for the safety of nuclear power..

But all you see in the 'news' are sensationalist headlines along the lines of "OMG NOOCLEAR RADIATION MAKES PART OF JAPAN UNINHABITABLE!" and so on.. (alright, I exaggerate.. but all you see in the news are "it's been a giant disaster" reports)
Title: Re: Greanpeace in our time
Post by: CaptainZok on 19 June 2011, 23:11:01
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Trouble is, although the Japanese episode demostrated how safe nuclear is, the media went for the sensationalist hype bullshit. This means the masses are anti nuclear

actually, didn't the Japanese thing show just how safe nuclear power is ? I mean after an earthquake, tsunami and major is-handling, there was still a relatively small level of contamination, etc. No-one died. That sounds like a good advert to me.

I think that's what TB is saying - to the educated (few, it seems) it's a great advert for the safety of nuclear power..

But all you see in the 'news' are sensationalist headlines along the lines of "OMG NOOCLEAR RADIATION MAKES PART OF JAPAN UNINHABITABLE!" and so on.. (alright, I exaggerate.. but all you see in the news are "it's been a giant disaster" reports)

Quite, most tabloid journos couldn't pronounce uninhabitable let alone spell it. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Greanpeace in our time
Post by: aaronjb on 19 June 2011, 23:18:34
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Trouble is, although the Japanese episode demostrated how safe nuclear is, the media went for the sensationalist hype bullshit. This means the masses are anti nuclear

actually, didn't the Japanese thing show just how safe nuclear power is ? I mean after an earthquake, tsunami and major is-handling, there was still a relatively small level of contamination, etc. No-one died. That sounds like a good advert to me.

I think that's what TB is saying - to the educated (few, it seems) it's a great advert for the safety of nuclear power..

But all you see in the 'news' are sensationalist headlines along the lines of "OMG NOOCLEAR RADIATION MAKES PART OF JAPAN UNINHABITABLE!" and so on.. (alright, I exaggerate.. but all you see in the news are "it's been a giant disaster" reports)

Quite, most tabloid journos couldn't pronounce uninhabitable let alone spell it. ;D ;D
;D ;D You made me triple check that I'd spelt it (and 'exaggerate') correctly, though..  ;D
Title: Re: Greanpeace in our time
Post by: TheBoy on 20 June 2011, 08:10:34
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Trouble is, although the Japanese episode demostrated how safe nuclear is, the media went for the sensationalist hype bullshit. This means the masses are anti nuclear

actually, didn't the Japanese thing show just how safe nuclear power is ? I mean after an earthquake, tsunami and major is-handling, there was still a relatively small level of contamination, etc. No-one died. That sounds like a good advert to me.
That was my very point.

The installation was hit with an earthquake, double the size of the maximum it was designed to sustain, and still shut down properly and promptly.  It was then hit with a rather large wave, 3 (?) times larger than it was designed to sustain, still it stood.

The largest single factor was the emegency generators transported to site (as the onsite ones were trashed, and the batteries only had limited run time) were incompatible, and it was at this stage the overheating issues started to happen, hence the controlled explosions...
Title: Re: Greanpeace in our time
Post by: 2woody on 20 June 2011, 16:12:16
so we were having a violent agreement than !
Title: Re: Greanpeace in our time
Post by: albitz on 20 June 2011, 17:46:06
Just for a change. :y ;D
Title: Re: Greanpeace in our time
Post by: TheBoy on 20 June 2011, 17:55:20
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so we were having a violent agreement than !
Lets take it outside in the carpark, and settle it like grown-ups....    ....ie, with Top Trumps ;D