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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: STMO123 on 18 June 2011, 20:24:03
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There's nothing on the box tonight so I was going to spend the evening winding Albs up. Pensions are an emotive subject and I was looking forward to spouting any old rubbish just to get him going.
I've just heard that a six-year-old lad from up the road has been killed in a hit and run. When I was on the way back from town I saw an ambulance with police cars front and rear. Little did I know who was in it. :'( :'( :'(
It has knocked the stuffing out of me and put a lot of things into perspective.
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How very sad, especially so young :'( :'(
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That is so upsetting. How can any Human Being drive off after striking a small child?
Probably someone without Insurance, or a dodgy MOT or someone who has had a few pints.
Terrible. :'(
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The parents, police, ambulance personnel.....how do you cope with something like that?
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That is so upsetting. How can any Human Being drive off after striking a small child?
Probably someone without Insurance, or a dodgy MOT or someone who has had a few pints.
Terrible. :'(
Apparently the police have found the car.
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That is so upsetting. How can any Human Being drive off after striking a small child?
Probably someone without Insurance, or a dodgy MOT or someone who has had a few pints.
Terrible. :'(
Apparently the police have found the car.
Horrific mate, reason enough to bring back hanging.
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The parents, police, ambulance personnel.....how do you cope with something like that?
It takes years even decades to fully come to terms with it. but you never truely get over it. I hope the families get all the help they can from Victims Support, they certainty helped my family through the same thing.
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That's pretty awful Steve, can't imagine how you're feeling let alone the childs family.
Such a waste. :'(
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I really can't imagine how I'd feel if that was my little boy or girl, I'd rip them apart if I ever got within half a mile
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Yeah it's terrible. While we're on the subject though, I've got to say, just speaking generally, not many people, kids included seem to have respect for the roads these days.
I'm not talking about this case I know nothing about it.
People just walk out in the road and expect that you'll stop for them. Well you will stop if you've seen them. But that's difficult at night with oncoming headlights when the muppet is dressed all in black!
If someone worked in a factory, they would stay well clear of a 2 tonne piece of metal moving towards them at 30 mph. Why do people not have the same sense of self preservation on the roads?
Last year I got turned out to a crash where a 12/13 year old lad had been run over. The car was on top of him. He died. All his mates were there crying their eyes out while the paramedics were trying to save him. Yeah the driver was speeding. The next month I saw the same faces crossing at the place showing utter disregard for safety and laughing about it.
Parents (mothers mainly) fly about in their new cars, speeding, parking right outside the school causing a hazard, on the phone, driving crap, near schools and kids. But god help you if you knock their child over. It's ok for them to do it though.
Where have all those public safety/information adverts gone? Lots of people would benefit from them.
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Scumbag should be put in a room with the mother and a few of her friends as they would hurt them more than any male would. >:( >:( >:(
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>:(blood is boiling.
theres too many foreigners driving on our roads uninsured/no mot/no licence/no road tax and just run when they have an accident.it happened a while ago where an immigrant who had been caughtr driving and banned(yeh right)was driving again and run a little girl down,she ended up under the car and he ran off and left her lieing there under a running engine...she must of died in pain and terrified and on watching the story about it brought a tear to my eye.this country has gone now and that brings a tear.
it may be an englishman drunk or uninsured or some other reason but il put money on the above >:( :o :(
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Whenever a child dies unnecessarily it's a tragedy that has far reaching & long lasting repercussions within the immediate family and beyond :(
But as Geoff so succinctly states, Road Awareness/Safety is a sadly lacking skill among todays youngsters & dare I say it, their Parents? :o
I take my Grand-daughter to school 3 days a week & pick her up in the afternoons, and each journey I can guarantee seeing more than one 'mother' with a mobile 'phone either clamped to her ear in earnest conversation, or else texting on the bloody thing with a 'thousand yard stare' on her face either leading a bairn across the road with no inclination of what is going on around her or else crossing the road herself with a breadsnapper in a pushchair & leaving the child to follow at its own volition with no thought to its safety or wellbeing! >:(
And don't start me on the young morons who deliberately cross the road in front of you with the attitude of 'hit me if you dare mate!'
I know i've become an 'Old Fart' & a Victor Meldrew these past few years, but bugger me, Society has declined so badly in the past 20 years I now despair for my children & grandchildren in the future! :(
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>:(blood is boiling.
theres too many foreigners driving on our roads uninsured/no mot/no licence/no road tax and just run when they have an accident.it happened a while ago where an immigrant who had been caughtr driving and banned(yeh right)was driving again and run a little girl down,she ended up under the car and he ran off and left her lieing there under a running engine...she must of died in pain and terrified and on watching the story about it brought a tear to my eye.this country has gone now and that brings a tear.
it may be an englishman drunk or uninsured or some other reason but il put money on the above >:( :o :(
You're right, but there's more natives doing it than foerigners
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Parents (mothers mainly) fly about in their new cars, speeding, parking right outside the school causing a hazard, on the phone, driving crap, near schools and kids. But god help you if you knock their child over. It's ok for them to do it though
Road Awareness/Safety
Two extracts that I agree with. The roads today are becoming quite dangerous whether you're a driver or pedestrian!
Friday driving on my way home from work, have to go through x3 sets of traffic lights. Twice I saw two or three cars going through on a red light because they couldn't be bothered to wait and till the next change. The third time saw someone blatantly ignore a red light and drive through it after about 10 seconds, because there wasn't any other cars waiting to cross and why should they have to wait!!
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Yeah it's terrible. While we're on the subject though, I've got to say, just speaking generally, not many people, kids included seem to have respect for the roads these days.
I'm not talking about this case I know nothing about it.
People just walk out in the road and expect that you'll stop for them. Well you will stop if you've seen them. But that's difficult at night with oncoming headlights when the muppet is dressed all in black!
If someone worked in a factory, they would stay well clear of a 2 tonne piece of metal moving towards them at 30 mph. Why do people not have the same sense of self preservation on the roads?
Last year I got turned out to a crash where a 12/13 year old lad had been run over. The car was on top of him. He died. All his mates were there crying their eyes out while the paramedics were trying to save him. Yeah the driver was speeding. The next month I saw the same faces crossing at the place showing utter disregard for safety and laughing about it.
Parents (mothers mainly) fly about in their new cars, speeding, parking right outside the school causing a hazard, on the phone, driving crap, near schools and kids. But god help you if you knock their child over. It's ok for them to do it though.
Where have all those public safety/information adverts gone? Lots of people would benefit from them.
When I was a kid the road safety brigade pushed the concept of looking both ways and listening for traffic before you crossed the road.
Nowadays that's been forgotten in favour of browbeating the motorist to slow down and hence putting the responsibility squarely on the driver rather than both parties to use the roads safely.
Which makes me wonder if this is where the attitude springs from.
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Cant begin to imagine the heartbreak of the poor parents.A child should never die before its parents. There isnt anything worse. :( :'(
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It's the hit and RUN bit that gets me.....Why run? unless you were in the wrong.... >:(
I had a near miss with a 4 year old a few years ago, his fault but as a driver I have a responsibility to be alert and anticipate, I was in a 30 and not speeding I stopped but he or his mother put him at further risk by calling him back which put him in front of my car twice..... ::) ::) I really thought I was going to have to call an ambulance for her she was in such a state of shock........
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Yeah it's terrible. While we're on the subject though, I've got to say, just speaking generally, not many people, kids included seem to have respect for the roads these days.
That's because everyone, pedestrian or driver, young or old enough to know better, seems to swan around in a world where nobody else matters than themselves these days. >:(
I hope this causes ten times as much heartache to the coward who drove off as it undoubtedly will to the family of the poor kid. :'(
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Yeah it's terrible. While we're on the subject though, I've got to say, just speaking generally, not many people, kids included seem to have respect for the roads these days.
I'm not talking about this case I know nothing about it.
People just walk out in the road and expect that you'll stop for them. Well you will stop if you've seen them. But that's difficult at night with oncoming headlights when the muppet is dressed all in black!
If someone worked in a factory, they would stay well clear of a 2 tonne piece of metal moving towards them at 30 mph. Why do people not have the same sense of self preservation on the roads?
Last year I got turned out to a crash where a 12/13 year old lad had been run over. The car was on top of him. He died. All his mates were there crying their eyes out while the paramedics were trying to save him. Yeah the driver was speeding. The next month I saw the same faces crossing at the place showing utter disregard for safety and laughing about it.
Parents (mothers mainly) fly about in their new cars, speeding, parking right outside the school causing a hazard, on the phone, driving crap, near schools and kids. But god help you if you knock their child over. It's ok for them to do it though.
Where have all those public safety/information adverts gone? Lots of people would benefit from them.
Whatever happened to the Green Cross Code Ad, that was straight to the point, basic life preservation advice!!
Every day I take my toddler to Nursery in Bromsgrove which is part of the college and next to the High School. The road leading to all 3 places is just wide enough for 2 cars passing, but the road is filled with parked cars half on the road and half on the pavement.
There is very little room between them to squeeze through, but knowing this, the teenagers going into school, don't care, they just blindly cross in large groups irrelevant of any traffic!
Friday gone, there was a group of about 8 walking along, 4 on the pavement 4 on the road, line abreast as I was coming towards them. I can't believe they wanted to play chicken with a large car at 20mph????
They did move though when they realised I wouldn't!! ;)
There is no respect for the road anymore, but god forbid you may clip one.... straight away...driver to blame! >:(
We maybe more technologically advanced, but common sense is no longer! :-/
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There's nothing on the box tonight so I was going to spend the evening winding Albs up. Pensions are an emotive subject and I was looking forward to spouting any old rubbish just to get him going.
I've just heard that a six-year-old lad from up the road has been killed in a hit and run. When I was on the way back from town I saw an ambulance with police cars front and rear. Little did I know who was in it. :'( :'( :'(
It has knocked the stuffing out of me and put a lot of things into perspective.
I understand that.
On two occassions in the last year local events just stopped me in my tracks and made me sit down and look at things on a higher level.
S'funny how you just bop along unaware of what could easily be , maybe thats no bad thing though.....
I cannot begin to think of how that family must feel and I feel so very sad on this day for them.
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Just driven up and put some flowers at the scene, little teddies and cars there, I cried like a baby.
Apparently, the talk of the car being found was not true. There's just been an appeal for info on news 24.
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Been mentioned on Sky news as well. :(
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Whenever a child dies unnecessarily it's a tragedy that has far reaching & long lasting repercussions within the immediate family and beyond :(
But as Geoff so succinctly states, Road Awareness/Safety is a sadly lacking skill among todays youngsters & dare I say it, their Parents? :o
I take my Grand-daughter to school 3 days a week & pick her up in the afternoons, and each journey I can guarantee seeing more than one 'mother' with a mobile 'phone either clamped to her ear in earnest conversation, or else texting on the bloody thing with a 'thousand yard stare' on her face either leading a bairn across the road with no inclination of what is going on around her or else crossing the road herself with a breadsnapper in a pushchair & leaving the child to follow at its own volition with no thought to its safety or wellbeing! >:(
And don't start me on the young morons who deliberately cross the road in front of you with the attitude of 'hit me if you dare mate!'
I know i've become an 'Old Fart' & a Victor Meldrew these past few years, but bugger me, Society has declined so badly in the past 20 years I now despair for my children & grandchildren in the future! :(
got quite a few of them in my area...they see you coming as they're crossing and purposely walk slower as if they're challenging you...personally i just aim for them and put my foot down :y
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Whenever a child dies unnecessarily it's a tragedy that has far reaching & long lasting repercussions within the immediate family and beyond :(
But as Geoff so succinctly states, Road Awareness/Safety is a sadly lacking skill among todays youngsters & dare I say it, their Parents? :o
I take my Grand-daughter to school 3 days a week & pick her up in the afternoons, and each journey I can guarantee seeing more than one 'mother' with a mobile 'phone either clamped to her ear in earnest conversation, or else texting on the bloody thing with a 'thousand yard stare' on her face either leading a bairn across the road with no inclination of what is going on around her or else crossing the road herself with a breadsnapper in a pushchair & leaving the child to follow at its own volition with no thought to its safety or wellbeing! >:(
And don't start me on the young morons who deliberately cross the road in front of you with the attitude of 'hit me if you dare mate!'
I know i've become an 'Old Fart' & a Victor Meldrew these past few years, but bugger me, Society has declined so badly in the past 20 years I now despair for my children & grandchildren in the future! :(
got quite a few of them in my area...they see you coming as they're crossing and purposely walk slower as if they're challenging you...personally i just aim for them and put my foot down :y
Seen a chav cyclist do that to a car in front of me - actually stopped.
One tried similar to me a few months ago, I got kickdown he ran.
BTW chavs in late teens or 20s
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Just driven up and put some flowers at the scene, little teddies and cars there, I cried like a baby.
Apparently, the talk of the car being found was not true. There's just been an appeal for info on news 24.
Must have been heart-wrenching Steve, so sorry :'(
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Just driven up and put some flowers at the scene, little teddies and cars there, I cried like a baby.
Apparently, the talk of the car being found was not true. There's just been an appeal for info on news 24.
Must have been heart-wrenching Steve, so sorry :'(
2nd that jonny :'(
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As others have said, how could the driver leave the scene? That's deplorable.
I know i can be a bit of a cock at times but even i have the moral fibre to stay & face the music.
rather' coward! >:(
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just to be devils advocate - we have no idea of the circumstances surrounding this, obviously, tragic incident.
There *are* reasons why a driver could leave the scene of an accident - blind panic being just one.
I hope to gods I am never in this sitiuation, and would hope that I would stop and own up.
but until I have been in the situation I can't presume to judge someone else.
Course, if it *IS* a foreign/chav/uninsured/drunk/inexperienced/woman/ driver -
boil em slowly in their own juices.
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just to be devils advocate - we have no idea of the circumstances surrounding this, obviously, tragic incident.
There *are* reasons why a driver could leave the scene of an accident - blind panic being just one.
I hope to gods I am never in this sitiuation, and would hope that I would stop and own up.
but until I have been in the situation I can't presume to judge someone else.
Course, if it *IS* a foreign/chav/uninsured/drunk/inexperienced/woman/ driver -
boil em slowly in their own juices.
Good point and well put, but anyone who ran in a 'blind panic' would have since had time to rationalise and take him/herself to the local police station to make a report.
Whilst we all attempt to find a good reason for someones actions (we are all human) this is not something which can be justified.
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That's bloody awful, can't imagine what the family must be going through at the minute :'( :'(
My youngest son got run over last year, shows just how lucky he was really.
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:'( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13839312 :'(
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It's all over our local radio station news here too..
What a bloody coward that driver is, if they find him/her they should let the parents dish out the justice and if there's anything left of them afterwards send them to prison then!! >:(
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In the daily mirror mirror too, I think it's disgusting the way the driver hasn't owned up >:(
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If they do catch the coward that killed that little boy the court's will give him a shorter sentance then they would somebody who has been caught fiddling state benifits.
That's not the fault of the police.
Just thank the retarded british justice system >:( >:(
Rest in peace little man....and have fun playing with the angels :'( :'( :'(
As for Dickheads walking out in front of cars,just like many of you it has happened to me upteen times.
I remember one warm summers night I popped up to Medway to see my mate.
It was a Saturday night so there was crumpet everywhere you looked all heading to the various bars/clubs in the towns.
Anyways we were driving along (in my first ever Mig)..and there was a group of pissed up chavs walking along the footpath on my left hand side in the distance.
One of the lads then walked out in the middle of the road,squatted down slightly with his arms held out to the side and just stood there with this huge big grin on his face.
It was obvious that he was trying to impress the two young slappers that were walking with them and thats what really pissed me off.
Giving it the Billy big Balls at my expense. >:( >:(
Instead of slowing down I sped up and at the last second he jumped out of the way and I caught him with my wing mirror.
We drove back down the road about ten minutes later to see what the deal was and we spotted him gingerly walking up the road with the rest of the chavs.
He was bending down slightly as he walked and was cradeling his left arm with his one good arm ;D ;D ;D
If it was a child..woman...OAP etc etc....I would have slowed down.
But some spotty hoody in a white Adidas tracksuit showing off in front of a couple of slags....F**k him!!! :y :y
I have never seen him since and know nothing of him but I'll tell you something for sure..
That bloke has never deliberately walked out in front of a car since
To this day my mate still finds it funny how the chav's face literally dropped when he realised I wasn't stopping ;)
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just to be devils advocate - we have no idea of the circumstances surrounding this, obviously, tragic incident.
There *are* reasons why a driver could leave the scene of an accident - blind panic being just one.
I hope to gods I am never in this sitiuation, and would hope that I would stop and own up.
but until I have been in the situation I can't presume to judge someone else.
Course, if it *IS* a foreign/chav/uninsured/drunk/inexperienced/woman/ driver -
boil em slowly in their own juices.
Good point and well put, but anyone who ran in a 'blind panic' would have since had time to rationalise and take him/herself to the local police station to make a report.
Whilst we all attempt to find a good reason for someones actions (we are all human) this is not something which can be justified.
Indeed. I don't imagine any of us have run anyone over so we don't know for sure whether blind panic especially where a chid is involved may make us run, but as soon as you'd shot off somewhere quiet, sat in the car for a while & gathered your thoughts there's only one thing to.
Drive slowly to the nearest nick & hand yourself in.
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It's amazing how something like this brings both the best and the worst in people. Snce Saturday I've heard people saying the kind of stuff you expect, like 'If I get my hands on the bast**d.........' etc. and the usual outpouring of genuine grief.
But one young housewife said to me today 'I know who it was, he hit someone with his wing mirror six weeks ago and drove off'. I went mental and told her that, if she knew who it was, she'd better tell the police, and quick. If she didn't, she'd better shut her stupid mouth. As if there's not enough to contend with without baseless tittle-tattle. >:(
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just to be devils advocate - we have no idea of the circumstances surrounding this, obviously, tragic incident.
There *are* reasons why a driver could leave the scene of an accident - blind panic being just one.
I hope to gods I am never in this sitiuation, and would hope that I would stop and own up.
but until I have been in the situation I can't presume to judge someone else.
Course, if it *IS* a foreign/chav/uninsured/drunk/inexperienced/woman/ driver -
boil em slowly in their own juices.
Good point and well put, but anyone who ran in a 'blind panic' would have since had time to rationalise and take him/herself to the local police station to make a report.
Whilst we all attempt to find a good reason for someones actions (we are all human) this is not something which can be justified.
Indeed. I don't imagine any of us have run anyone over so we don't know for sure whether blind panic especially where a chid is involved may make us run, but as soon as you'd shot off somewhere quiet, sat in the car for a while & gathered your thoughts there's only one thing to.
Drive slowly to the nearest nick & hand yourself in.
I had an accident where I thought I had killed a young (early teens) girl just after I started driving. wasnt my fault - she came from my nearside from behind a hedge on a bike with no brakes.I didnt have time to do anything before I heard the horrible crack of her head on the A pillar of my old Avenger.
I knew her and her family well, which made things worse. I was far from an angel when I was a yoof, but the thought of driving off honestly never entered my mind.
I stopped.looked in my mirror ans she lay on the road looking lifeless. Her sisters were all screaming hysterically, and I sat in my car feeling an overwhelming urge to throw up. After what seemed like an eternity (a couple of minutes) she started moving - convulsing uncontrollably, which was frightening and sickening to watch. Eventually (10 minutes)) Ambulance and police arrived, and she went off to hospital, where it transpired she had a fractured skull.
Her older sister (my best mates wife) had seen what happened from the window of her house, and thankfully informed anyone who wanted to know that it was in no way my fault.
I have no sympathy/understanding or compassion whatsoever for the driver. Personally, I would gas the tinker.
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It's amazing how something like this brings both the best and the worst in people. Snce Saturday I've heard people saying the kind of stuff you expect, like 'If I get my hands on the bast**d.........' etc. and the usual outpouring of genuine grief.
But one young housewife said to me today 'I know who it was, he hit someone with his wing mirror six weeks ago and drove off'. I went mental and told her that, if she knew who it was, she'd better tell the police, and quick. If she didn't, she'd better shut her stupid mouth. As if there's not enough to contend with without baseless tittle-tattle. >:(
Shame, if you were a bit more diplomatic instead of frightening her off, you might have got some details which you could have passed on to the Boys in Blue, thus helping them sort this mess out, and making sure the idiot doesn't do it again.
I think we all go thro a blind panic moment after any sort of accident, but its how we react after that counts.
I have had a few bumps, my error sometimes, but my first reaction was to make sure the person in the other car was OK. Perhaps its how you were brought up, what respect for others you have that counts. I don't think the modern society where people learn the "norm" from TV like Neighbours etc will teach the basic facts of life.
Ken
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It's amazing how something like this brings both the best and the worst in people. Snce Saturday I've heard people saying the kind of stuff you expect, like 'If I get my hands on the bast**d.........' etc. and the usual outpouring of genuine grief.
But one young housewife said to me today 'I know who it was, he hit someone with his wing mirror six weeks ago and drove off'. I went mental and told her that, if she knew who it was, she'd better tell the police, and quick. If she didn't, she'd better shut her stupid mouth. As if there's not enough to contend with without baseless tittle-tattle. >:(
Shame, if you were a bit more diplomatic instead of frightening her off, you might have got some details which you could have passed on to the Boys in Blue, thus helping them sort this mess out, and making sure the idiot doesn't do it again.
I think we all go thro a blind panic moment after any sort of accident, but its how we react after that counts.
I have had a few bumps, my error sometimes, but my first reaction was to make sure the person in the other car was OK. Perhaps its how you were brought up, what respect for others you have that counts. I don't think the modern society where people learn the "norm" from TV like Neighbours etc will teach the basic facts of life.
Ken
She had no idea who it was, and to throw someone's name in the mix, just to grab attention for yourself.........
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Owen Wightman hit-and-run: Police make arrest (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-13864504)
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Owen Wightman hit-and-run: Police make arrest (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-13864504)
Excellent.
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good news :y
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Yep, good news (as long as they have the right guy - innocent until proven guilty and all that, and it's not like we've seen news reports like that before only to be followed up by a quick "oops, wrong guy" report) - though still a tragic incident of course, even if the perpetrator is brought to justice.
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i know where the person came from is irrelevent but it looks like hes from my town,i hope its nobody i know >:(