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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: tunnie on 28 June 2011, 20:18:21
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So in my flat I need to re-seal the bath, a crack has developed around the edge, where the bath meets the tiles. I need to stop water getting in.
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Omega/Misc/SAM_0891.JPG)
I was thinking of using something like this:
http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detail&fh_secondid=10548844&fh_location=//catalog01/en_GB/categories%3C{9372013}/categories%3C{9372031}/categories%3C{9372100}/specificationsProductType=sealants&tmcampid=4&tmad=c&ecamp=cse_go&CAWELAID=396930033
Is it best to chip out the old stuff with something like a small chisel? Or is it ok just to clean it up and use that stuff above? :-/
Any suggestions welcome :y
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http://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-sanitary-silicone-white-310ml/47187
Plastic/acrylic bath or pressed steel :question
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your too fat - you broke it. :D ;D
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http://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-sanitary-silicone-white-310ml/47187
Plastic/acrylic bath or pressed steel :question
Plastic :y
Thats much cheaper! Think there is one near me too.
Best to remove old stuff or just go over top?
your too fat - you broke it. :D ;D
Two people in the shower at once may have caused it ::) :-X 8-)
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That is one mighty big crack.I think i would investigate a little further if that has moved to that extent or was it just badly fitted and the old stuffs fallen out ?
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Clean as best you can. Run two strips of masking tape, one along the tiles, the other along the bath leaving a suitable gap between both strips. Fill bath 3/4 full then apply sealant in one continuous application. Wet finger and smooth off. Wait about 5 minutes then carefully remove tape and drain bath
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That is one mighty big crack.I think i would investigate a little further if that has moved to that extent or was it just badly fitted and the old stuffs fallen out ?
Badly fitted.... quite a few little sections where it shows poor fitting. Shame, its good stuff but look like it would poorly put together by previous owner :(
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That is one mighty big crack.I think i would investigate a little further if that has moved to that extent or was it just badly fitted and the old stuffs fallen out ?
Looks badly fitted and not been sealed as per guidelines for acrylic baths
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Clean as best you can. Run two strips of masking tape, one along the tiles, the other along the bath leaving a suitable gap between both strips. Fill bath 3/4 full then apply sealant in one continuous application. Wet finger and smooth off. Wait about 5 minutes then carefully remove tape and drain bath
Perfect. Cheers Rob :y
Good point on 3/4 bath, get the weight in there, and after it sets a little it will rise as it goes lighter! Did'nt think about that!
I'll post an after photo :)
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http://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-sanitary-silicone-white-310ml/47187
Plastic/acrylic bath or pressed steel :question
Plastic :y
Thats much cheaper! Think there is one near me too.
Best to remove old stuff or just go over top?
your too fat - you broke it. :D ;D
Two people in the shower at once may have caused it ::) :-X 8-)
Get yourself a skinnier boyfriend or a stronger bath then. :y :D ;D
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http://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-sanitary-silicone-white-310ml/47187
Plastic/acrylic bath or pressed steel :question
Plastic :y
Thats much cheaper! Think there is one near me too.
Best to remove old stuff or just go over top?
your too fat - you broke it. :D ;D
Two people in the shower at once may have caused it ::) :-X 8-)
Get yourself a skinnier boyfriend or a stronger bath then. :y :D ;D
Considering my girlfriend is lighter than me, i'm the fat one ;D
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We believe ya Tunnie. ;)
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I would still remove the bath side and see if the floor has rotten and sunk taking the bath with it. Raise via the feet if needed? Then re seal.
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We believe ya Tunnie. ;)
Who else thinks TB paid Tunnie a visit? ;)
Reminds me I really need to re-seal my bath after it dropped a bit.. in my case it really is because I'm a fat bastard, though :-[
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I would still remove the bath side and see if the floor has rotten and sunk taking the bath with it. Raise via the feet if needed? Then re seal.
Thats what i was thinking as it does look like it has shifted quite a lot and if that is so then it will continue to move however well you do the mastic now.Also maybe the bath has not been fixed in position properly as there would normally be a couple of brackets holding it to the wall and maybe the legs not bolted up very well.Definitely something not right there.
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I would still remove the bath side and see if the floor has rotten and sunk taking the bath with it. Raise via the feet if needed? Then re seal.
Thats what i was thinking as it does look like it has shifted quite a lot and if that is so then it will continue to move however well you do the mastic now.Also maybe the bath has not been fixed in position properly as there would normally be a couple of brackets holding it to the wall and maybe the legs not bolted up very well.Definitely something not right there.
Truth be told the gap maybe have been there a few months :-[
Don't really feel confident removing the bath :(
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I would still remove the bath side and see if the floor has rotten and sunk taking the bath with it. Raise via the feet if needed? Then re seal.
Thats what i was thinking as it does look like it has shifted quite a lot and if that is so then it will continue to move however well you do the mastic now.Also maybe the bath has not been fixed in position properly as there would normally be a couple of brackets holding it to the wall and maybe the legs not bolted up very well.Definitely something not right there.
Truth be told the gap maybe have been there a few months :-[
Don't really feel confident removing the bath :(
The side panel Mark. Piece of pi$$
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I would still remove the bath side and see if the floor has rotten and sunk taking the bath with it. Raise via the feet if needed? Then re seal.
Thats what i was thinking as it does look like it has shifted quite a lot and if that is so then it will continue to move however well you do the mastic now.Also maybe the bath has not been fixed in position properly as there would normally be a couple of brackets holding it to the wall and maybe the legs not bolted up very well.Definitely something not right there.
Truth be told the gap maybe have been there a few months :-[
Don't really feel confident removing the bath :(
The side panel Mark. Piece of pi$$
Ahhh something should have mentioned that ;D ;D ;D
I was getting visions of removing taps and so on :-[ :-[ :-[ :D ;D
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I would still remove the bath side and see if the floor has rotten and sunk taking the bath with it. Raise via the feet if needed? Then re seal.
Thats what i was thinking as it does look like it has shifted quite a lot and if that is so then it will continue to move however well you do the mastic now.Also maybe the bath has not been fixed in position properly as there would normally be a couple of brackets holding it to the wall and maybe the legs not bolted up very well.Definitely something not right there.
Truth be told the gap maybe have been there a few months :-[
Don't really feel confident removing the bath :(
The side panel Mark. Piece of pi$$
You assume they put it on sensibly ;) in my place, for example, the bath side is a sheet of ply with tiles stuck to it, which is nicely tile adhesived under and into the lip of the bath - be fun getting that out if I ever need to! (Thankfully they at least put an inspection hatch up the top end; when I moved in the only thing holding it 'closed' was a bit of wadded up toilet paper wedged in the gap though ;D )
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think i'll have to take a closer look. Never really looked at it that much
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I would still remove the bath side and see if the floor has rotten and sunk taking the bath with it. Raise via the feet if needed? Then re seal.
Thats what i was thinking as it does look like it has shifted quite a lot and if that is so then it will continue to move however well you do the mastic now.Also maybe the bath has not been fixed in position properly as there would normally be a couple of brackets holding it to the wall and maybe the legs not bolted up very well.Definitely something not right there.
Truth be told the gap maybe have been there a few months :-[
Don't really feel confident removing the bath :(
Then water will have got in. Damp and rot will lead to an expensive bill. Need to get in there and limit the damage, shaw up the floor etc
Although, do you have house insurance? If not get some, sharpish. :-X
Take the side off, to see under the bath.
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I would still remove the bath side and see if the floor has rotten and sunk taking the bath with it. Raise via the feet if needed? Then re seal.
Thats what i was thinking as it does look like it has shifted quite a lot and if that is so then it will continue to move however well you do the mastic now.Also maybe the bath has not been fixed in position properly as there would normally be a couple of brackets holding it to the wall and maybe the legs not bolted up very well.Definitely something not right there.
Truth be told the gap maybe have been there a few months :-[
Don't really feel confident removing the bath :(
Then water will have got in. Damp and rot will lead to an expensive bill. Need to get in there and limit the damage, shaw up the floor etc
Although, do you have house insurance? If not get some, sharpish. :-X
Take the side off, to see under the bath.
Have it as part of the maintenance fee I pay, not exactly much it can rot, floor is concreet. As is the entire block (all internal walls/celling) 1935 build, its very quite and cool (even in the heat) - It must be thick too, tunes up, can't hear it outside the flat.
But will take a look :)
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I would still remove the bath side and see if the floor has rotten and sunk taking the bath with it. Raise via the feet if needed? Then re seal.
Thats what i was thinking as it does look like it has shifted quite a lot and if that is so then it will continue to move however well you do the mastic now.Also maybe the bath has not been fixed in position properly as there would normally be a couple of brackets holding it to the wall and maybe the legs not bolted up very well.Definitely something not right there.
Truth be told the gap maybe have been there a few months :-[
Don't really feel confident removing the bath :(
Then water will have got in. Damp and rot will lead to an expensive bill. Need to get in there and limit the damage, shaw up the floor etc
Although, do you have house insurance? If not get some, sharpish. :-X
Take the side off, to see under the bath.
Have it as part of the maintenance fee I pay, not exactly much it can rot, floor is concreet. As is the entire block (all internal walls/celling) 1935 build, its very quite and cool (even in the heat) - It must be thick too, tunes up, can't hear it outside the flat.
But will take a look :)
Block policy?
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Yup. I get contents insurance through my mortgage :)
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What a shite job that is, its been grouted not sealed. No wonder its cracked!
On the sealent, buy a good one which is anti mould and do as already mentioned e.g. masking tape and 3/4 full of water.
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Welcome to the world of property ownership and DIY, that small job almost certainly turns into something bigger ::) ::) ::)
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Cheers Mark :y
This is on my list to fix tomorrow :)
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You assume they put it on sensibly ;) in my place, for example, the bath side is a sheet of ply with tiles stuck to it, which is nicely tile adhesived under and into the lip of the bath - be fun getting that out if I ever need to! (Thankfully they at least put an inspection hatch up the top end; when I moved in the only thing holding it 'closed' was a bit of wadded up toilet paper wedged in the gap though ;D )
I made a similar surround for the bath at my place when we first moved in, since the previous owners had wood with carpet stuck to it, was the most disgusting thing ever.
Obviously a few years later, the sealant needed redoing. So I did that, and there was still a leak coming through into the alley way. I assumed a tap was leaking so wrecked the tiling to access it, only to discover I hadn't sealed the bath properly.
There is just painted MDF on there now, easy to unscrew as needed.
If I mentioned this to SWMBO, I might be reminded the bathroom suite has been in there longer than we have lived here, 20 years this autumn. I might also be coerced into replacing it. Shh.
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Did you say floor is concrete.So i doubt thats moved or you really will be in trouble.
Got to be something to do with the legs/frame not fixed proper then.
By the way if you are using it for a shower as well then its always a good idea to put some extra reinforcement under the bath.
If you take the panel off you should see that under the 'flat' bit of the bath is stuck a bit of chipboard throughout its length.
If you can get some fairly sturdy bits of wood (ie 4" x 2" or even bigger) and pack that up off the concrete floor use some wedges or thinner bits to make up the rest.
Be careful you dont 'jack' the bath up too much if it looks like there isnt much play in your pipes as you dont want to be getting a leak.
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Yup, floor is concreet, will take a look tomorrow and see whats what!
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It's clear from the picture that it was never a flexible sealant in the first place so I doubt anything has moved. Just a sh1te job done in the first place, as previously said. A bead of silicone round it and it'll be fine. :y
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Yup, floor is concreet, will take a look tomorrow and see whats what!
CONCRETE
Uni educated as well ::) ::) ;D
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It's clear from the picture that it was never a flexible sealant in the first place so I doubt anything has moved. Just a sh1te job done in the first place, as previously said. A bead of silicone round it and it'll be fine. :y
just checked bath, its not got a side you can remove. its "dropped" in and supported all around, so others have said it was done poorly!
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Yup, floor is concreet, will take a look tomorrow and see whats what!
CONCRETE
Uni educated as well ::) ::) ;D
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spelling was never my strong point. i was even in "special needs" for it at school when i was 13 :(