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Title: Pilots losing their flying skills
Post by: Nickbat on 05 September 2011, 15:04:13
"We're seeing a new breed of accident with these state-of-the art planes," said Rory Kay, an airline captain and co-chair of a Federal Aviation Administration advisory committee on pilot training. "We're forgetting how to fly."

 :o :o

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-impact-automation-air-dulls-pilot-skill-070507795.html
Title: Re: Pilots losing their flying skills
Post by: tunnie on 05 September 2011, 15:10:13
The weak link in Planes are the pilots now, won't be long before planes are controlled from the ground.
Title: Re: Pilots losing their flying skills
Post by: Nickbat on 05 September 2011, 15:36:01
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The weak link in Planes are the pilots now, won't be long before planes are controlled from the ground.

Military, possibly, but not civilian as there would be too much customer rejection of the idea...and rightly so. There are simply too many things that can happen that require pilots' immediate input, such as wind shear on finals and so on.
Title: Re: Pilots losing their flying skills
Post by: Nick W on 05 September 2011, 17:20:35
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The weak link in Planes are the pilots now, won't be long before planes are controlled from the ground.

A friend of mine who flies Airbus now(used to be Boeings) says that the most common thing to hear on the flight recorder is a pilot saying "Oh what's it doing now?"

The pilots are there to deal with stuff if something goes wrong. Most of the trip is done automatically, including take off and landing.
Title: Re: Pilots losing their flying skills
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 05 September 2011, 17:46:38
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The weak link in Planes are the pilots now, won't be long before planes are controlled from the ground.

A friend of mine who flies Airbus now(used to be Boeings) says that the most common thing to hear on the flight recorder is a pilot saying "Oh what's it doing now?"

The pilots are there to deal with stuff if something goes wrong. Most of the trip is done automatically, including take off and landing.

Just like the 777 that crashed landed at Heathrow a couple of years ago. Would have been curtains if it wasn't for the guys up front. There was a very interesting prog on telly about it a couple of weeks ago.
Title: Re: Pilots losing their flying skills
Post by: jonnycool on 05 September 2011, 18:08:02
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The weak link in Planes are the pilots now, won't be long before planes are controlled from the ground.

A friend of mine who flies Airbus now(used to be Boeings) says that the most common thing to hear on the flight recorder is a pilot saying "Oh what's it doing now?"

The pilots are there to deal with stuff if something goes wrong. Most of the trip is done automatically, including take off and landing.

Hmmm, doesn't inspire confidence  :-/ :-/
Title: Re: Pilots losing their flying skills
Post by: Nick W on 05 September 2011, 18:23:14
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The weak link in Planes are the pilots now, won't be long before planes are controlled from the ground.

A friend of mine who flies Airbus now(used to be Boeings) says that the most common thing to hear on the flight recorder is a pilot saying "Oh what's it doing now?"

The pilots are there to deal with stuff if something goes wrong. Most of the trip is done automatically, including take off and landing.

Hmmm, doesn't inspire confidence  :-/ :-/


Here's another one for you; the only pilots with anything good to say about Airbus have never flown anything else! That's one of the reasons that airlines prefer to train their crews from scratch, rather than upgrade existing licences.
Title: Re: Pilots losing their flying skills
Post by: tunnie on 05 September 2011, 18:29:17
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The weak link in Planes are the pilots now, won't be long before planes are controlled from the ground.

A friend of mine who flies Airbus now(used to be Boeings) says that the most common thing to hear on the flight recorder is a pilot saying "Oh what's it doing now?"

The pilots are there to deal with stuff if something goes wrong. Most of the trip is done automatically, including take off and landing.

Just like the 777 that crashed landed at Heathrow a couple of years ago. Would have been curtains if it wasn't for the guys up front. There was a very interesting prog on telly about it a couple of weeks ago.

Yeah that was one which lost engine power and he had to glide it in
Title: Re: Pilots losing their flying skills
Post by: tigers_gonads on 05 September 2011, 19:35:12
An Air France Airbus 330  :-/  went down over the atlantic last year.

The captain was in the back having a sleep.
Co pilot behind the stick.
Computer gives out a stall warning.

The investigation is still on going but it looks like the pitot / static system had frozen up giving the air data computers the wrong infomation  :'(

Not that much of a problem if the man behind the stick gets it right and pushes the nose down but sadly in this case, he pulled back  :o :o

Aircraft stall's  :'(

By the time the captain gets back to the front, the aircraft is non recoverable  :(


As for remote millitary aircraft.
They have been in use for years for spying.
Nowdays, they have missiles on board  ( Reaper )
All controlled (I believe) out of the USA via satalite.

The yanks are developing a unmaned strike aircraft to fly off there carriers.

BAe have been testing one in Australia ( Mantis ) ;)
The C.A.A. won't let them test it in the Uk  ::)