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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Andy B on 20 July 2009, 09:59:49
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While I was getting my car MOT'd this morning I was discussing the recent inclusion of tow bars to the test. The tester was interested in how my detachable bar fits to the car which then got the conversation round to the commercial drop pin type of bar that might be fitted to a Transit etc. he said that if the pin wasn't there when the vehicle was presented for test, then in theory, it should fail, even if the rest of the bar was OK. :-?
So does that mean that if I present my car for MOT test without the detachable ball, or if the ball of a 2 bolt flange type of bar is not fitted because in day to day use it obscures some of the number plate, is that then a fail? :-? :-?
Surely not! :-/ :-/
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Yes, its the government initiative against caravans
make it as hard as possible to legally use one to try and drive them off the roads ;D
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Yes, its the government initiative against caravans
make it as hard as possible to legally use one to try and drive them off the roads ;D
Does that mean I'd be better off selling my 'van & take the towbar off my car then? ;D ;D ;D
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no, youve gotta ritually burn the van to fix the issue. Honest :y
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no, youve gotta ritually burn the van to fix the issue. Honest :y
I'll let you tell SWMBO. ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D
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no, youve gotta ritually burn the van to fix the issue. Honest :y
I'll let you tell SWMBO. ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D
:-[ ;D ;D ;D ;D
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if the detachable part of the towbar is not present it cannot be tested and would only be an advisory to that effect to cover the testers bottom!! cannot be a fail!! :y
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Yes, its the government initiative against caravans
make it as hard as possible to legally use one to try and drive them off the roads ;D
I'd vote for them
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if the detachable part of the towbar is not present it cannot be tested and would only be an advisory to that effect to cover the testers bottom!! cannot be a fail!! :y
Sounds sensible to me, but he was sure that if the drop pin of the other type was not there it'd be a fail ....... :-/
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Yes, its the government initiative against caravans
make it as hard as possible to legally use one to try and drive them off the roads ;D
I'd vote for them
I'd make air fresheners part of the MOT! ;) :y :y
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In response to original question if its not fitted then we cant test it. We can only test what is there at time of test so if the ball has been removed we cant test it but we can test the rest ie the mounts, bolts ,condition of the rest of the tow bar ect.
lee
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In response to original question if its not fitted then we cant test it. We can only test what is there at time of test so if the ball has been removed we cant test it but we can test the rest ie the mounts, bolts ,condition of the rest of the tow bar ect.
lee
Sounds good to me. So is 'my' tester is wrong about the Transit type of drop pin tow ball? He interpreted the rules to say that if it wasn't there at test, then it was a fail .... same as if the R clip was missing - surely an advisory.
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In response to original question if its not fitted then we cant test it. We can only test what is there at time of test so if the ball has been removed we cant test it but we can test the rest ie the mounts, bolts ,condition of the rest of the tow bar ect.
lee
Sounds good to me. So is 'my' tester is wrong about the Transit type of drop pin tow ball? He interpreted the rules to say that if it wasn't there at test, then it was a fail .... same as if the R clip was missing - surely an advisory.
as said!!! vosa vehicle inspectorates are us!!!! :y
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I would say that if the pin wasnt there then it cant be tested but if the pin was and the r clip wasnt then it would probably fail as its a locking device (id need to give vosa a call to confirm).
lee
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I would say that if the pin wasnt there then it cant be tested but if the pin was and the r clip wasnt then it would probably fail as its a locking device (id need to give vosa a call to confirm).
lee
It was a hypertheticall question! ;) ;) :y
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Yes, its the government initiative against caravans
make it as hard as possible to legally use one to try and drive them off the roads ;D
I'd vote for them
Hmm.. nothing wrong with caravaners... its just the 70 year old grandad with a pipe in his mouth doing 20mph everywhere thats the problem! >:(
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Yes, its the government initiative against caravans
make it as hard as possible to legally use one to try and drive them off the roads ;D
I'd vote for them
Hmm.. nothing wrong with caravaners... its just the 70 year old grandad with a pipe in his mouth doing 20mph everywhere thats the problem! >:(
well im yet to find a caravan that DOESNT hold me up.
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Yes, its the government initiative against caravans
make it as hard as possible to legally use one to try and drive them off the roads ;D
I'd vote for them
Hmm.. nothing wrong with caravaners... its just the 70 year old grandad with a pipe in his mouth doing 20mph everywhere thats the problem! >:(
well im yet to find a caravan that DOESNT hold me up.
Perhaps some are so quick they have disappeared inot the distance - some tow vehicles are very powerful
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Yes, its the government initiative against caravans
make it as hard as possible to legally use one to try and drive them off the roads ;D
I'd vote for them
Hmm.. nothing wrong with caravaners... its just the 70 year old grandad with a pipe in his mouth doing 20mph everywhere thats the problem! >:(
well im yet to find a caravan that DOESNT hold me up.
Perhaps some are so quick they have disappeared inot the distance - some tow vehicles are very powerful
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Yes, its the government initiative against caravans
make it as hard as possible to legally use one to try and drive them off the roads ;D
I'd vote for them
Hmm.. nothing wrong with caravaners... its just the 70 year old grandad with a pipe in his mouth doing 20mph everywhere thats the problem! >:(
well im yet to find a caravan that DOESNT hold me up.
Perhaps some are so quick they have disappeared inot the distance - some tow vehicles are very powerful
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Laugh not
http://www.nextcar.com.au/rt.volkswagen.touareg.V10.tdi.07may.html
Other tests are magazine and not searchable, but I do remember that they out dragged some quickish cars.
I want to see a towing test with the new 500bhp supercharged Range Rover
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Yes, its the government initiative against caravans
make it as hard as possible to legally use one to try and drive them off the roads ;D
I'd vote for them
Hmm.. nothing wrong with caravaners... its just the 70 year old grandad with a pipe in his mouth doing 20mph everywhere thats the problem! >:(
well im yet to find a caravan that DOESNT hold me up.
Perhaps some are so quick they have disappeared inot the distance - some tow vehicles are very powerful
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Laugh not
http://www.nextcar.com.au/rt.volkswagen.touareg.V10.tdi.07may.html
Other tests are magazine and not searchable, but I do remember that they out dragged some quickish cars.
I want to see a towing test with the new 500bhp supercharged Range Rover
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and what miniscule percentage of those are out on the roads? ;D ;D ;D
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Yes, its the government initiative against caravans
make it as hard as possible to legally use one to try and drive them off the roads ;D
I'd vote for them
Hmm.. nothing wrong with caravaners... its just the 70 year old grandad with a pipe in his mouth doing 20mph everywhere thats the problem! >:(
So you have seen AA towing to then!
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Yes, its the government initiative against caravans
make it as hard as possible to legally use one to try and drive them off the roads ;D
I'd vote for them
Hmm.. nothing wrong with caravaners... its just the 70 year old grandad with a pipe in his mouth doing 20mph everywhere thats the problem! >:(
So you have seen AA towing to then!
No, doesn't sound like AA. [size=8]He pulls over to smoke, then dusts his car in case any ash fell on it.[/size] ;D
Kevin
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Gee, I don't think you guys like caravans or mot testers! My IQ is bigger than my age - does that get me blackballed on the 3 strikes count? [smiley=cry.gif]
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Gee, I don't think you guys like caravans or mot testers! My IQ is bigger than my age - does that get me blackballed on the 3 strikes count? [smiley=cry.gif]
Don't take the anti-caravan posts to heart ....... some love to slag caravans off, but they love them really.
I don't think we dislike MOT testers though ...... :-? ::) ::) ::) :y