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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: TheBoy on 12 June 2007, 21:28:26
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Small video (http://images.omegaowners.com/images/events/lakes07/sm_2087.htm)
Large video (http://images.omegaowners.com/images/events/lakes07/lg_2087.htm)
Apologies for rust bucket at the end....
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:'( Doesnt work for me.....its plays the 1st 5secs and freezes.....even tho its says 100% downloaded
Tried both small and large versions :'(
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You should of edited that last ten seconds from the video, it has ruined a perfectly good piece of film ;D
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Check you Flash version, just in case? Working for everyone else?
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Works fine for me :y The server must be getting choka with all these vids/pics :o
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You should of edited that last ten seconds from the video, it has ruined a perfectly good piece of film ;D
:o :o :o :o You should ALWAYS save the very best to the end! ;D ;D ;D
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Works OK for me :y
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That cracks me up, you can hear Timbuk's fans before he arrives ;D & me going up the lane as Hotel21 drives by ::)
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That cracks me up, you can hear Timbuk's fans before he arrives ;D & me going up the lane as Hotel21 drives by ::)
And someone wheelspins about 1 car after I go out of frame ::)
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Check you Flash version, just in case? Working for everyone else?
Cheers TB :y
Just been on Adobe website an downloaded latest version of Flash......works a treat now :y
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Check you Flash version, just in case? Working for everyone else?
Cheers TB :y
Just been on Adobe website an downloaded latest version of Flash......works a treat now :y
:D
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Never let a Boy do a man's job - first 5 cars are missing ;D
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There is defo something wrong with this vid !!! you missed my car,the 1st one out,FOOL :(.Still it was ok untill the last one went through.thought it was an omega weekend.Well done tunnie for managing to get the mobile rust heap that far north.
Gary.
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quality video - similar to mine so i dont need to upload now, although i think mine chops of the last car :-X
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Never let a Boy do a man's job - first 5 cars are missing ;D
Think mrs TB was doing the vid......you gonna tell her ;D
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sorry i never made it maybe next time ,you should not slag of the senny though i loved mine but now i to have moved on, remember if there was no senny there would be no meega and its 2 secs faster 0-60 dont get me wrong i am falling in love with the meega now,,, 8-)
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ok,mrs the boy,you missed the first 5 cars including MINE, ;) ;) ;)
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That particular senny is now 5 secs faster due to the weight loss,from once good steel now turned into rust. ;D ;D ;D
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That cracks me up, you can hear Timbuk's fans before he arrives ;D
Thats to distract you from the Poverty badge on the side :D
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sorry i never made it maybe next time ,you should not slag of the senny though i loved mine but now i to have moved on, remember if there was no senny there would be no meega and its 2 secs faster 0-60 dont get me wrong i am falling in love with the meega now,,, 8-)
8-)Love the leaving video.
Lay off the Senny, that'll be a classic when some Migs are long gone. At least Tunnie had the bottle to turn up in it. I bet you all secretly wanted a drive, i know i did!!! :P
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It played for me and i had sound :y
The only thing with the sound was Elite Pete was listening to radio four ;D ;D
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(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w316/DaveLem/motocanaglia_devozione.gif)
8-)
DaveL
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Works good for me but the large vid is a bit jittery. Nice one :y
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always save the best till the end ;)
Works here no probs :y
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always save the best till the end ;)
Works here no probs :y
I've heard that they've had to screen the field off, awaiting analysis of some brown particles that trailed across it.
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always save the best till the end ;)
Works here no probs :y
I've heard that they've had to screen the field off, awaiting analysis of some brown particles that trailed across it.
::) ::)
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always save the best till the end ;)
Works here no probs :y
I've heard that they've had to screen the field off, awaiting analysis of some brown particles that trailed across it.
::) ::)
Snowie's were not around, were they :question :o :o :o
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DaveL
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always save the best till the end ;)
Works here no probs :y
I've heard that they've had to screen the field off, awaiting analysis of some brown particles that trailed across it.
::) ::)
Had to laugh when you brought half of the field back with you in your door ;D
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Snowie, leaders within the waste management industry, have announced today that they have been re-branded as the Oran Group. :-[ :-[
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DaveL
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sorry i never made it maybe next time ,you should not slag of the senny though i loved mine but now i to have moved on, remember if there was no senny there would be no meega and its 2 secs faster 0-60 dont get me wrong i am falling in love with the meega now,,, 8-)
hmmmmmmm................doubt if it's 2 secs quicker 0-60 than mine!! ::) ;)
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sorry i never made it maybe next time ,you should not slag of the senny though i loved mine but now i to have moved on, remember if there was no senny there would be no meega and its 2 secs faster 0-60 dont get me wrong i am falling in love with the meega now,,, 8-)
hmmmmmmm................doubt if it's 2 secs quicker 0-60 than mine!! ::) ;)
It just might be, because of all the rust holes in it, and the body now being a lot thinner, it's probably 1/2 a ton lighter than when it was new ::)
I'm talking about a certain student's, of course ;)
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sorry i never made it maybe next time ,you should not slag of the senny though i loved mine but now i to have moved on, remember if there was no senny there would be no meega and its 2 secs faster 0-60 dont get me wrong i am falling in love with the meega now,,, 8-)
hmmmmmmm................doubt if it's 2 secs quicker 0-60 than mine!! ::) ;)
It just might be, because of all the rust holes in it, and the body now being a lot thinner, it's probably 1/2 a ton lighter than when it was new ::)
I'm talking about a certain student's, of course ;)
;D ;D ;D
Sorry Tunnie :-X
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sorry i never made it maybe next time ,you should not slag of the senny though i loved mine but now i to have moved on, remember if there was no senny there would be no meega and its 2 secs faster 0-60 dont get me wrong i am falling in love with the meega now,,, 8-)
Are they buggery.....there pretty much the same 0-60 time!
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some people should know what they are talking about before they reply..and guess. I would sugest checking your facts first.. :P
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Well, autobahnstormers ought to know, and the Senator 3.0i 24V auto is quoted as 0-60 in 8.8 there.
http://www.autobahnstormers.co.uk/
I timed a very casual 0-60 on my 3.2 MV6 Auto at 8 seconds using a Race technology AP22. No tricks, no manual shifting, just plonk foot down in "D". I suspect it may have faired better if I'd remembered to put it into Sport mode before I set off. Manufacturer's spec is 8.0 seconds.
The two cars weigh very similar amounts, have very similar amounts of power and the same gearbox. To make one go 2 seconds faster than the other would require a very substantial increase in power or decrease in weight.
Kevin
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some people should know what they are talking about before they reply..and guess. I would sugest checking your facts first.. :P
Performance figures for Senator 3.0
0-60 = 8.8 seconds
Top speed = 128mph
Performance figures for Omega 3.2
0-60 = 8.0 seconds
Top speed = 149mph
Information obtained from 2 independent databases
I rest my case ;)
PS Sorry Jaime - didn't mean to hijack your thread :-[
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;D ;D senny being 2 seconds quicker than the Omega - Tunnie would have been very popular as it would put the senny into the 6 seconds area :o
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some people should know what they are talking about before they reply..and guess. I would sugest checking your facts first.. :P
Performance figures for Senator 3.0
0-60 = 8.8 seconds
Top speed = 128mph
Performance figures for Omega 3.2
0-60 = 8.0 seconds
Top speed = 149mph
Information obtained from 2 independent databases
I rest my case ;)
PS Sorry Jaime - didn't mean to hijack your thread :-[
Tunnies is the 24v one so faster than those specs (top end certainly), and I can confirm it is good for 135mph at least. Apparently ::)
I can also confirm, that Tunnie's was marginally slower accelerating at these high speeds, and significantly slower at slower speeds, though I think with the work he has done, that has improved a little.
My MV6 does 0 - 60 in 7.7s, no way will a standard Senny with similar gearbox (auto) be 5.7s, so I disagree with the 2s faster bit.
The Senator certainly isn't a bad car, though obviously prone to rust, and really crap electrics. The engine is around the same power, though significantly heavier.
Oh no, sounds like I'm almost sticking up for his rust bucket :-X
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that must be the figure for the 12 valve senny 128 top speed cum on why would the police use them. im sure if you look around you will find the 24 valve 1-60 is 7 secs which is quite good for a car of tthis size with a 3,0 oh i think the top speed for the auto is 146 or there abouts with the man 148 or 9 come on you lot help me out im not going mad............or am i :o :-? ;D
for all you lucky people with the 3.2 i was reffering to the 3.0 elite which i have im sure the book said 9 secs but if im wrong i am sure will tell me im sure in the book for the senny it says 7 secs .and i did time it a few times and it was always 7 secs oh but with stop watches and different people timeing me....i know it is a very similar car but was a straight 6 with dual ram non ecotech....and worked different,,,,
or should i just go top myself for imbarssing my self i just cant let things lie when im so sure i there no sex senny drivers we can ask on here???????
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that must be the figure for the 12 valve senny 128 top speed cum on why would the police use them. im sure if you look around you will find the 24 valve 1-60 is 7 secs which is quite good for a car of tthis size with a 3,0 oh i think the top speed for the auto is 146 or there abouts with the man 148 or 9 come on you lot help me out im not going mad............or am i :o :-? ;D
IIRC the top speed of my 24v Senny was close on 150mph.
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I have to admit i like the Senator, it looks a little dated now if anything, but i also thought they were good for 150mph.....
Bruccie will know ;)
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that must be the figure for the 12 valve senny 128 top speed cum on why would the police use them. im sure if you look around you will find the 24 valve 1-60 is 7 secs which is quite good for a car of tthis size with a 3,0 oh i think the top speed for the auto is 146 or there abouts with the man 148 or 9 come on you lot help me out im not going mad............or am i :o :-? ;D
for all you lucky people with the 3.2 i was reffering to the 3.0 elite which i have im sure the book said 9 secs but if im wrong i am sure will tell me im sure in the book for the senny it says 7 secs .and i did time it a few times and it was always 7 secs oh but with stop watches and different people timeing me....i know it is a very similar car but was a straight 6 with dual ram non ecotech....and worked different,,,,
or should i just go top myself for imbarssing my self i just cant let things lie when im so sure i there no sex senny drivers we can ask on here???????
Yes your figures are near, my Omega figures are based my 3.0l MV6, 0 - 60 of which is 7.7s by my clock (possibly quicker if done properly)
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There was at least one 3 litre 24 valve Senny supplied to the Scottish Police College, Traffic Division, at Kincardine, direct from Vauxhall some years ago which had Koni uprated shocks all round, uprated brakes and pads, chipped and remapped by VX and, probably, an alternate set of gear ratio's and diff. Done 164 mph on a specially calibrated speedo on the M9 motorway with 4 big blokes in it, back some 15 years plus ago whilst on a Police Advanced Driving Course. (Standard cars are slower, but not by much). And there were still 500 revs left in 5th, incidentally.....
Before the usual suspects ( you know who they are..... :P ) start throwing comments onto the forum about excess speed by the Police, sauce for the goose/gander, double standards etc etc. please remember when this happened. It was a different 'PC' climate with different interpretations. Somewhat doubtfull this would now happen on the public road.... :y
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Where are you Tunnie this surely will put a smile on ya face mate :y
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Before the usual suspects ( you know who they are..... :P ) start throwing comments onto the forum about excess speed by the Police, sauce for the goose/gander, double standards etc etc. .........
:question :question Who would that be? :-? :-? ;D
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Where are you Tunnie this surely will put a smile on ya face mate :y
Can just picture it now.....Tunnie trying to get 164mph outa his Senny....he'll be sitting there clinging onto the wheel....just the drivers seat on the chassis....all the other body panels/doors/seats would have been pulled off and lying at the side of road.....due to g force and rust not working together ;D ;D
Sorry Tunnie ;)
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Before the usual suspects ( you know who they are..... :P ) start throwing comments onto the forum about excess speed by the Police, sauce for the goose/gander, double standards etc etc. .........
:question :question Who would that be? :-? :-? ;D
..... 18 minutes ..... :-X ;D
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IIRC the top speed of my 24v Senny was close on 150mph.
Bet you didn't do that in the middle lane of the M6 ::)
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Where are you Tunnie this surely will put a smile on ya face mate :y
Can just picture it now.....Tunnie trying to get 164mph outa his Senny....he'll be sitting there clinging onto the wheel....just the drivers seat on the chassis....all the other body panels/doors/seats would have been pulled off and lying at the side of road.....due to g force and rust not working together ;D ;D
Sorry Tunnie ;)
I hope his dressing gown is wind proof then :o :o
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:question :question Who would that be? :-? :-? ;D
..... 18 minutes ..... :-X ;D
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I waited and waited ...... didn't want to appear to keen! ;)
[size=8]on the other hand .... that's how long it took me to get to your post! :y[/size]
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....I hope his dressing gown is wind proof then :o :o
.... and that the chinstrap on the wee hat was down....
The tassel on the top would get a fair blowing about as well!! ;D
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well lets just say i was right then,,,,,,,,,,,,lol why did i even mention the senny lol keep smiling ;D
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some people should know what they are talking about before they reply..and guess. I would sugest checking your facts first.. :P
If ever I wanted to check any facts, Mark is the man I would go to ;)
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well lets just say i was right then,,,,,,,,,,,,lol why did i even mention the senny lol keep smiling ;D
That was only a select handfull of cars out of many hundreds/thousands made. Not a generally accepted state of tune for Joe or Josephine Public so figures are well skewed, as it were!! ;D
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arghhhhhhhhhh yes the 160 somthing but not the 146 ish and the 0-60 in 7secs that is right i had one belive me it is true,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,someone help
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well lets just say i was right then,,,,,,,,,,,,lol why did i even mention the senny lol keep smiling ;D
If there's a Sennie out there (standard) that will see off a 3.2 or even a 3.0 MV6 I'll eat my soiled pants!! ::) ;D
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ohh if only i kept it because i would love to see that can you make a video and post it
please please calling all senny drivers if you have a quick senny i want to see this lol ;D
standrd senny 24 valve with 0-60 0f 7secs
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ohh if only i kept it because i would love to see that can you make a video and post it
Not a chance, 'cos it'll never happen!! ;D
please please calling all senny drivers if you have a quick senny i want to see this lol ;D
standrd senny 24 valve with 0-60 0f 7secs
:o :o :o
Nah.........8.8 secs without mods :P
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ok ive got off my ass and had a look it would appear i may be wrong naahh you all say well i had a look at the spec on the senator club and the spec says 7.8 man 8,8 auto but my top speeds are correct at 146 auto and 149 man but i still say my senny did in seven secs i have got whitness at least 3 maybe chipped i did not chip it mines was an auto hmm i wonder if there is times with and without the sports mode oh well humble pie all round....darn :y
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ok ive got off my ass and had a look it would appear i may be wrong naahh you all say well i had a look at the spec on the senator club and the spec says 7.8 man 8,8 auto but my top speeds are correct at 146 auto and 149 man but i still say my senny did in seven secs i have got whitness at least 3 maybe chipped i did not chip it mines was an auto hmm i wonder if there is times with and without the sports mode oh well humble pie all round....darn :y
Aw hell, it's all good fun and a bit of banter - bug*ered if I'd wanna eat my soiled pants anyway ::) ;D ;D
BTW raximax, didn't see you posting in the newbie's section so welcome to the forum - hell, you must drive an Omega otherwise you wouldn't be here! ;) ;D
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yes i do i have had it a about a month but only taxed it at the start of the month and its all i wanted it to be if perhaps a little slow getting to 60 lol but that is not the reason i got it . ass you can tell i had a senny and the only reason i got rid of it was a slight oil leak exhausts where needing changed and two rust spots comming up, i fancied a change so i got myself a shogun now there was nothing wrong with it but it lacked the power of the senny for towing . and a bit slow it was a 3.0 petrol and no it never got to 60 in 7 secs .i have always liked the omega but it got slated by senator owners and i have seen a lot of meegas on ebay with the head or cam cone so put me off but i still found myself looking at them and by chance i went on ebay and found one in dundee whuch is verry rare. it hade a phone number so i phoned him at 10.00 at night then went down to see it that night it is a 3.0 elite dark grey 59k on it with service book stamped up at diferent garages 2 owners 5 new tires and pretty good nik for age so i got it there and then for £780 its r reg but only 97 model so now i have had a chance to play a little i am falling in love again ohh boys and there cars well you all know what i mean all the toys work surpries well exept 1 my heated seat the electric seat works just wont heat my bum lol oh well better go before i put you all to sleep so thats my story whats yours??? :y
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Mate,
First off, = welcome to the forum :y
Sounds like you had a good buy with your Elite.
Apart from a brief spin, I've not driven a Senny much. I've heard they're very good, but they don't handle quite as well as a Meega (as standard). Meega is a much newer looking car too, and doesn't get (quite as much!) rust as the senny (in my opinion!)
I must have a proper drive in Tunnies...... ;D
Don't take any offence to my previous post... but I can assure you - Mark does have all his facts straight - he is an extremely knowledgable guy, and I am still extremely grateful for all the help and advice he's offered me, both over the forum and in person.
I would also be very interested to here Broocie's stories of fast motorway Senny driving ::)
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Tunnie and I have proven that the 3.0l MV6 V6 just has the legs on the the 24v Senny at high speed (both autos), and is quicker at slower speeds. Both cars have similar mileage.
My own feeling from driving these is that the top speed will be similar (approaching the 150mph mark), but with the v6 having better low down acceleration (possibly due to newer gearbox software and mostly the multiram system (far better than the dual ram on senny)).
I don't think I've driven a manual 24v Senny, but I would suspect the same would apply, ie similar results above, if put up against a manual v6 3.0l
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but with the v6 having better low down acceleration (possibly due to newer gearbox software and mostly the multiram system (far better than the dual ram on senny)).........
Possibly overall gear ratios helps the Omega. 90 mph on the Senator is 3000rpm (indicated WhatCar? of the day shows the Senator as 29mph/1000rpm ..... I still have it somewhere :-[) whereas the Omega 'only' does about 85mpg at 1000rpm IIRC
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but with the v6 having better low down acceleration (possibly due to newer gearbox software and mostly the multiram system (far better than the dual ram on senny)).........
Possibly overall gear ratios helps the Omega. 90 mph on the Senator is 3000rpm (indicated WhatCar? of the day shows the Senator as 29mph/1000rpm ..... I still have it somewhere :-[) whereas the Omega 'only' does about 85mpg at 1000rpm IIRC
[smiley=lolk.gif]So are we all going to play nicely now/ [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]
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no :P lol joking aside the meega looks better newer and not as rusty yet lol ...but all my friends agree that the omega feels slower and my 0-60 is 9 secs as it should be im not joking i dont know if it was chiped or not but when you put the foot down it threw you back no mater what speed you where doing but with the meega it seems more refiend it just seems more controled the senny seemed more agressive. and it had the adjustable suspenstion which i dont think you get on the meega pitty....and the meega has a lot more toys oh cant wait till you can get a 3.2 for a grand 2 or 3 years yipeee.....
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no :P lol joking aside the meega looks better newer and not as rusty yet lol ...but all my friends agree that the omega feels slower and my 0-60 is 9 secs as it should be im not joking i dont know if it was chiped or not but when you put the foot down it threw you back no mater what speed you where doing but with the meega it seems more refiend it just seems more controled the senny seemed more agressive. and it had the adjustable suspenstion which i dont think you get on the meega pitty....and the meega has a lot more toys oh cant wait till you can get a 3.2 for a grand 2 or 3 years yipeee.....
I think the multiram on the Omega smooths out the torque better, whereas the dual ram in Senny gave it peaks of torque. I think this falsely makes it feel faster.
If your 3.0l is 9s to 60, check the multirams are working, as it should be high 7s/low 8s for an auto (faster for manual)
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Having driven both lots......the senator feels faster due to the poorer power delivery.....as a person in a car what feels fast is a sudden change in power output...in the case of a Senator thats around the 4000rpm point where the dual ram changes over....the V6 multiram gives a MUCH flatter and more progressive torque curve.
If yours is lacking low down grunt then something is wrong.....
As for 0-60 and top speed, there both about the same, although the wind noise (particularly) on the facelift) is much less.
For me the Senator is a good car but, its now very dated and feels dated to....the handling is less assured as well thanks to the very heavy power plant and its position in the engine bay making the car nose heavy which results in quite a sudden break away of the rear.
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yeah the rear did go out very easily oh what fun..lol ;D :y
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so thats my story whats yours??? :y
I'd always fancied an Omega for years but they were always a bit out of price range until a few years ago. I had a 3 year old Citroen Xsara estate that I got quite cheaply from a mate's Company car fleet, but never really liked it as although it was economical and cheap to run it was too small. When my ex-missus wanted a new car she asked if she could buy mine so that I could look around for a bigger one. Eventually found an Omega 2.5 V6 CD Estate on Autotrader going quite cheaply so went to the dealer Arthur Daly car dealer and ended up buying it. Spent a fair bit of cash getting it sorted out (cambelt kit, full service etc) and fell in love with it. :-* Recently done a deal with a couple of our Scottish forum members and ended up with the MV6 Irmscher Estate that I cuurently have :y