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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Martin_1962 on 06 September 2009, 19:28:33
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Got out of the lanes yesterday onto the A roads and the first decent run not going to from work and no family.
3.0 cams do work ;D ;D
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Wait till you have it Chipped and re-mapped
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Wait till you have it Chipped and re-mapped
Not saying anything but I was impressed.
Remap is a future possibility
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if its taken that long to notice the gain, just wonder if its worth the bother?
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at the end of the day all Omegas are slug like compared with other cars, i just sit back and enjoy the ride 8-)
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at the end of the day all Omegas are slug like compared with other cars, i just sit back and enjoy the ride 8-)
Beg to differ mate, my 2.6 is capable of a nice turn of speed if requested.......Almost quick off the lights when the rams kick in and in sports mode at 70+mph it is fantastic......
:y
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if its taken that long to notice the gain, just wonder if its worth the bother?
Yes - canot use it on the commute very easily
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at the end of the day all Omegas are slug like compared with other cars, i just sit back and enjoy the ride 8-)
4 pots maybe but i'm not complaining about my V6
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Beg to differ mate, my 2.6 is capable of a nice turn of speed if requested.......Almost quick off the lights when the rams kick in and in sports mode at 70+mph it is fantastic......
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Eh? What are the rams then? My car's no slouch but it would struggle to keep up with a warm hatch, never mind a hot one ;D ;D
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at the end of the day all Omegas are slug like compared with other cars, i just sit back and enjoy the ride 8-)
PMSL - I'll put my MV6 up against any car and it won't disgrace itself in a straight line, with a 0-60 easily under 8s from an auto. I reckon I could get a well maintained 3.0 manual comfortably under 7s. Thats no slouch.
Now I've sorted the handling at long last, I'll put it up against most cars (and frequently did, even with its less than perfect handling).
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Beg to differ mate, my 2.6 is capable of a nice turn of speed if requested.......Almost quick off the lights when the rams kick in and in sports mode at 70+mph it is fantastic......
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Eh? What are the rams then? My car's no slouch but it would struggle to keep up with a warm hatch, never mind a hot one ;D ;D
2 intake valves, designed to flatten torque curve. The difference they make is very noticible.
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at the end of the day all Omegas are slug like compared with other cars, i just sit back and enjoy the ride 8-)
;D ;D ;D ;D
I have been fast enough and I will say that my 3.0 cammed 2.6 is as fast as my last 3.0.
And I would pit it against a warm hatch
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at the end of the day all Omegas are slug like compared with other cars, i just sit back and enjoy the ride 8-)
PMSL - I'll put my MV6 up against any car and it won't disgrace itself in a straight line, with a 0-60 easily under 8s from an auto. I reckon I could get a well maintained 3.0 manual comfortably under 7s. Thats no slouch.
Now I've sorted the handling at long last, I'll put it up against most cars (and frequently did, even with its less than perfect handling).
Here Here, i have had a few plays in mine to date and have seen off a few hot hatches and more on the straights with ease, ok so its not as quick through the bends but hey you cant have it all
Ps Over 160mph top end is no slouch ;D
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at the end of the day all Omegas are slug like compared with other cars, i just sit back and enjoy the ride 8-)
;D ;D ;D ;D
I have been fast enough and I will say that my 3.0 cammed 2.6 is as fast as my last 3.0.
And I would pit it against a warm hatch
Hmmm, I'd say you're old 3.0 had issues then.
The best 2.6 I've pitted mine against was that liar Dundee's 2.6 manual, being driven at the time by Marks DTM, himself no slowcoach. I got a better start, otherwise I would say it was even steven to 90ish, then the 3.0 started to creep away. I should add, due to being responsible, this test was done on a runway. The manual is quicker in general.
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How often do you go over 90 normally?
I do tend to run super petrol either BP or Shell (mainly for cleaning reasons)
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How often do you go over 90 normally?
Which car? Actually, doesn't matter. Answer is : :-X
I do tend to run super petrol either BP or Shell (mainly for cleaning reasons)
Flled up with the stuff last week for the first time in over a year. Then found the LPG guy in the isle of wight, so filled up with that. Then realised I was paying 66.9p/L :o
Oh, well, I won't run out of fuel for a while. Might syphon some off for the mower.
Kevin
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How often do you go over 90 normally?
Which car? Actually, doesn't matter. Answer is : :-X
I do tend to run super petrol either BP or Shell (mainly for cleaning reasons)
Flled up with the stuff last week for the first time in over a year. Then found the LPG guy in the isle of wight, so filled up with that. Then realised I was paying 66.9p/L :o
Oh, well, I won't run out of fuel for a while. Might syphon some off for the mower.
Kevin
Middle speeds are where the performance is usable I doubt I'll ever get to an Autobahn
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How often do you go over 90 normally?
I do tend to run super petrol either BP or Shell (mainly for cleaning reasons)
normally 90 tbh ::)
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How often do you go over 90 normally?
I do tend to run super petrol either BP or Shell (mainly for cleaning reasons)
on the way up the m5 from newent :D
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How often do you go over 90 normally?
Almost never tbh, I have a mate though who regularly drives at over 120mph, don't know how he's kept his licence! I've only ever driven at 120mph once, expected police helicopters to appear at any moment ;D ;D
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at the end of the day all Omegas are slug like compared with other cars, i just sit back and enjoy the ride 8-)
Beg to differ mate, my 2.6 is capable of a nice turn of speed if requested.......Almost quick off the lights when the rams kick in and in sports mode at 70+mph it is fantastic......
:y
We have a 3.0 as well, all multi-rams working as it should, even driven hard 4 pot diesels can easily keep up.
Why do you think i never bothered to 'upgrade' :y
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at the end of the day all Omegas are slug like compared with other cars, i just sit back and enjoy the ride 8-)
Beg to differ mate, my 2.6 is capable of a nice turn of speed if requested.......Almost quick off the lights when the rams kick in and in sports mode at 70+mph it is fantastic......
:y
We have a 3.0 as well, all multi-rams working as it should, even driven hard 4 pot diesels can easily keep up.
Why do you think i never bothered to 'upgrade' :y
Consider when we picked up that 2.5 from East Midlands a couple of years back, and I drove your 2.2 back? Even with the 2.5 running poorly, I had to rag the tits off your 2.2 to even try to keep up. Suggesting a 2.2 is in any way close to one of the v6 models is pretty ludicrous ;)
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i think tunnie is right at the end of the day a Fiesta Zetec S is faster round the twisty stuff than an omega theyre a luxury car not a WRX STi Imprezza
i had an MV6 and id deffinatly say a Vectra GSi is alot faster than the omega due to weight
Previously had a Vectra V6 Sri ex plod with MV6 cams in it
should also add my Dads 530D BMW absolutely mullered my manual MV6 the MV6 will beat a Saxo with ease but it cant keep up with a Mini CooperS ive tried! not a Golf Turbo GTi got a long list of cars ive raced and lost!
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i think tunnie is right at the end of the day a Fiesta Zetec S is faster round the twisty stuff than an omega theyre a luxury car not a WRX STi Imprezza
i had an MV6 and id deffinatly say a Vectra GSi is alot faster than the omega due to weight
Previously had a Vectra V6 Sri ex plod with MV6 cams in it
should also add my Dads 530D BMW absolutely mullered my manual MV6 the MV6 will beat a Saxo with ease but it cant keep up with a Mini CooperS ive tried! not a Golf Turbo GTi got a long list of cars ive raced and lost!
Hmmm, I certainly wouldn't rate my MV6 as the best Omega out there, not by a long shot. But a 330D was no match for my auto last time I tried - he started to run out of steam around the 125/130 mark. Theres not many cars that have left me behind around the lanes around here either :-/
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at the end of the day all Omegas are slug like compared with other cars, i just sit back and enjoy the ride 8-)
Beg to differ mate, my 2.6 is capable of a nice turn of speed if requested.......Almost quick off the lights when the rams kick in and in sports mode at 70+mph it is fantastic......
:y
We have a 3.0 as well, all multi-rams working as it should, even driven hard 4 pot diesels can easily keep up.
Why do you think i never bothered to 'upgrade' :y
Consider when we picked up that 2.5 from East Midlands a couple of years back, and I drove your 2.2 back? Even with the 2.5 running poorly, I had to rag the tits off your 2.2 to even try to keep up. Suggesting a 2.2 is in any way close to one of the v6 models is pretty ludicrous ;)
Not saying mine is close at-all, just saying i don't find the big V6's that fast compared to other cars.
I mashed the pedal to the floor in our 3.0 Elite and that Accord which was behind us, a CDTi, kept up. I won, but only just.
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Should add the old mans is a Facelift 230bhp model i agree that in a motrway race the omega will give anything a good run for its money
but from a standing start on a 1/4 mile the omega tbh doesnt stand much chance with something small modern and with 150+bhp i do most of my racing off traffic lights as where i live doesnt have motorways or nice dual carriageways!
but the 740i ive just bought (my first auto) feels alot faster than the omega maybe the V8 tourqe factor though :-? one thing the omega doesnt have is the Lovely Gurgling VANOS noise that you get from 4k rpm
i did race an S3 on the way to swindon once and it was close we both started at 70 got myn upto 150 and didnt do it for long i notice my migs engine gets quite hot when its been reved up for a while
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at the end of the day all Omegas are slug like compared with other cars, i just sit back and enjoy the ride 8-)
Beg to differ mate, my 2.6 is capable of a nice turn of speed if requested.......Almost quick off the lights when the rams kick in and in sports mode at 70+mph it is fantastic......
:y
We have a 3.0 as well, all multi-rams working as it should, even driven hard 4 pot diesels can easily keep up.
Why do you think i never bothered to 'upgrade' :y
Consider when we picked up that 2.5 from East Midlands a couple of years back, and I drove your 2.2 back? Even with the 2.5 running poorly, I had to rag the tits off your 2.2 to even try to keep up. Suggesting a 2.2 is in any way close to one of the v6 models is pretty ludicrous ;)
Not saying mine is close at-all, just saying i don't find the big V6's that fast compared to other cars.
I mashed the pedal to the floor in our 3.0 Elite and that Accord which was behind us, a CDTi, kept up. I won, but only just.
That needs looking at then
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Should add the old mans is a Facelift 230bhp model i agree that in a motrway race the omega will give anything a good run for its money
but from a standing start on a 1/4 mile the omega tbh doesnt stand much chance with something small modern and with 150+bhp i do most of my racing off traffic lights as where i live doesnt have motorways or nice dual carriageways!
but the 740i ive just bought (my first auto) feels alot faster than the omega maybe the V8 tourqe factor though :-? one thing the omega doesnt have is the Lovely Gurgling VANOS noise that you get from 4k rpm
i did race an S3 on the way to swindon once and it was close we both started at 70 got myn upto 150 and didnt do it for long i notice my migs engine gets quite hot when its been reved up for a while
No idea what engine the 330d had in, can't comment.
S3? Is that the sporty small Audi hatch? Bloody good in a straight line to motorway speeds if they can get the power down, but easy target around the roundabouts of Milton Keynes. Apparently ::)
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driven 530d.. its heavy and sluggish for the traffic lights start .. after the turbo kicks in peforms well though.. but no chance in a short run against small cars ( ;D tested)
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yes the S3 is the little Audi this one i raced is my mates its an X reg and smokes a bit so its turbo must be on deaths door lol 4WD though! so it dont do burnouts like the omega
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Once my BMW has a new radiator i shall be racing the 740i ill report back with weather its any good
had top speed out of it on the way home though i popped into Santa pod on the way home ::) ::)
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as a principle I never race 4 wheel drives as when you are eating your tires they let you in dust ;D
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Once my BMW has a new radiator i shall be racing the 740i ill report back with weather its any good
had top speed out of it on the way home though i popped into Santa pod on the way home ::) ::)
My bro had a 1998 540 v8. It was all torque, not that revvy, but went well enough :y
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at the end of the day all Omegas are slug like compared with other cars, i just sit back and enjoy the ride 8-)
Beg to differ mate, my 2.6 is capable of a nice turn of speed if requested.......Almost quick off the lights when the rams kick in and in sports mode at 70+mph it is fantastic......
:y
We have a 3.0 as well, all multi-rams working as it should, even driven hard 4 pot diesels can easily keep up.
Why do you think i never bothered to 'upgrade' :y
3.0 needs an italian tune up i reckon, or rev over 1k would be a start.
Must admit i am wondering if some spammer has hacked your account Tunnie.
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as a principle I never race 4 wheel drives as when you are eating your tires they let you in dust ;D
A mate of mine had a Sylva Jester with Fiat Panda 4x4 running gear and an Uno Turbo engine (IIRC).
An ugly pig of a car (IMHO - have a look http://yodaofbo.spaceport1.co.uk/features/other/Sylva/sylva_jester.html) and with that much Fiat pedigree it clearly didn't always move under its' own power but when it did - I remember being at a kit car show where they were timing standing 1/4 miles had he wiped the floor with everything - and we're talking Caterham R500s and the works here.
Embarrassed a few folk. ;D Of course, give it half a mile and he'd have been eating humble pie but 4wd does make a huge difference to how quickly you can launch a car (assuming you've got enough power to make it worthwhile).
Kevin
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Should add the old mans is a Facelift 230bhp model i agree that in a motrway race the omega will give anything a good run for its money
but from a standing start on a 1/4 mile the omega tbh doesnt stand much chance with something small modern and with 150+bhp i do most of my racing off traffic lights as where i live doesnt have motorways or nice dual carriageways!
but the 740i ive just bought (my first auto) feels alot faster than the omega maybe the V8 tourqe factor though :-? one thing the omega doesnt have is the Lovely Gurgling VANOS noise that you get from 4k rpm
i did race an S3 on the way to swindon once and it was close we both started at 70 got myn upto 150 and didnt do it for long i notice my migs engine gets quite hot when its been reved up for a while
How did you manage that near Swindon without Fuzz clocking you?
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as a principle I never race 4 wheel drives as when you are eating your tires they let you in dust ;D
A mate of mine had a Sylva Jester with Fiat Panda 4x4 running gear and an Uno Turbo engine (IIRC).
An ugly pig of a car (IMHO - have a look http://yodaofbo.spaceport1.co.uk/features/other/Sylva/sylva_jester.html) and with that much Fiat pedigree it clearly didn't always move under its' own power but when it did - I remember being at a kit car show where they were timing standing 1/4 miles had he wiped the floor with everything - and we're talking Caterham R500s and the works here.
Embarrassed a few folk. ;D Of course, give it half a mile and he'd have been eating humble pie but 4wd does make a huge difference to how quickly you can launch a car (assuming you've got enough power to make it worthwhile).
Kevin
watched an old model scooby and Audi R8 start..
result was shocking.. Audi was within its first meters when the scooby finished the lap.. ;D
problem is strong engines have big problem transferring their power to the road wih 2 tires unless enormous size tires are used.. :-?
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Should add the old mans is a Facelift 230bhp model i agree that in a motrway race the omega will give anything a good run for its money
but from a standing start on a 1/4 mile the omega tbh doesnt stand much chance with something small modern and with 150+bhp i do most of my racing off traffic lights as where i live doesnt have motorways or nice dual carriageways!
but the 740i ive just bought (my first auto) feels alot faster than the omega maybe the V8 tourqe factor though :-? one thing the omega doesnt have is the Lovely Gurgling VANOS noise that you get from 4k rpm
i did race an S3 on the way to swindon once and it was close we both started at 70 got myn upto 150 and didnt do it for long i notice my migs engine gets quite hot when its been reved up for a while
How did you manage that near Swindon without Fuzz clocking you?
On the A419/417 at 5am on our way down to Bournemouth for a Weekend
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as a principle I never race 4 wheel drives as when you are eating your tires they let you in dust ;D
Well it depends - if it wasn't for oncoming traffic I would have had a SIII Land Rover and a Freelander yesterday
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Hardly a fair fight . ::)
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Hardly a fair fight . ::)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D