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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Darth Loo-knee on 27 October 2009, 18:04:10
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These pictures are the heads off Mrs Loo-knee's estate :(
This is the 5th pair of head gaskets I have done in 3 weeks :-?
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those coolant jackets around the bores look fcked! :o
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:o :o
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This is the 5th pair of head gaskets I have done in 3 weeks :-?
not on the same car ?
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your be doing them in your sleep soon. Hope the water ports clean up. Did the head bend ?
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:o looks same like these from Vader. Should fill with coke instead of coolant ;D
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This is the 5th pair of head gaskets I have done in 3 weeks :-?
not on the same car ?
check his sig, he does mobile mechanics
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:o looks same like these from Vader. Should fill with coke instead of coolant ;D
Vader......... no mate :-*
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This is the 5th pair of head gaskets I have done in 3 weeks :-?
not on the same car ?
No mate not the same car ;D
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Hey Daz,
You servicing 3 cyl Corsas now then ?? :D :D :D
As he promptly ducks ,,,,,,,,,,,, :) :)
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I have cleaned everything up and it is back together but altering a few things first before I have finished.
But think before I put anti freeze in I will put some Forte Flush into the coolant system then drop it all out and rinse before anti freeze eventually goes in :y
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I'm guessing that car has seen poor coolant servicing over its lifetime. Actually, NO coolant servicing ;D
Is it a 1998 3.0 model by any chance?
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Youve only just bought that car iirc ? Looks like the servicing wasnt done as regular as it should have been. ::) :(
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I told you not to use that dodgy perming stuff you eventually dumped in the Trent as antifreeze. ;D
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I told you not to use that dodgy perming stuff you eventually dumped in the Trent as antifreeze. ;D
;D ;D :y
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I'm guessing that car has seen poor coolant servicing over its lifetime. Actually, NO coolant servicing ;D
Is it a 1998 3.0 model by any chance?
As it happens yes and so were the other 4 :-?
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I'm guessing that car has seen poor coolant servicing over its lifetime. Actually, NO coolant servicing ;D
Is it a 1998 3.0 model by any chance?
As it happens yes and so were the other 4 :-?
That figures ;)
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I'm guessing that car has seen poor coolant servicing over its lifetime. Actually, NO coolant servicing ;D
Is it a 1998 3.0 model by any chance?
As it happens yes and so were the other 4 :-?
That figures ;)
A bit of a pattern eh :o
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I'm guessing that car has seen poor coolant servicing over its lifetime. Actually, NO coolant servicing ;D
Is it a 1998 3.0 model by any chance?
As it happens yes and so were the other 4 :-?
That figures ;)
A bit of a pattern eh :o
yup, I've been saying for a couple of years there is a problem with 1998 3.0l and HG - particularly 2/4/6 bank...
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I'm guessing that car has seen poor coolant servicing over its lifetime. Actually, NO coolant servicing ;D
Is it a 1998 3.0 model by any chance?
As it happens yes and so were the other 4 :-?
That figures ;)
A bit of a pattern eh :o
yup, I've been saying for a couple of years there is a problem with 1998 3.0l and HG - particularly 2/4/6 bank...
core plugs as well? always seem to be 98's.....
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Where's the best place to get the head gasket kits from and which are the best make to go for...Only think mine needs doing and has for a long time (loses a small amount of coolent) have changed the heater bypass and still loses so i have just lived with it keeping my eye on when it needs topping up. Also had the core plugs checked and been told that there o.k
Have been told k-seal is good stuff and to try that but then you read mixed reports ?????
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wonder if anyone else has found this 3.0 1998 issue :-/
how many now we, a small forum know of?
Daz : 5
Jaime : 1
Jimbob : 1
and I know there are others....
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Are '98 2.5's ok or do they have the same problem?
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My car's had the HG done (before I got it) - was a bit concerned when I heard they rarely go, but loads of people on here seem to have had them fail :P
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I'm guessing that car has seen poor coolant servicing over its lifetime. Actually, NO coolant servicing ;D
Is it a 1998 3.0 model by any chance?
As it happens yes and so were the other 4 :-?
That figures ;)
A bit of a pattern eh :o
yup, I've been saying for a couple of years there is a problem with 1998 3.0l and HG - particularly 2/4/6 bank...
Oh great... whens the ticking time bomb going to go on mine then :(
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wonder if anyone else has found this 3.0 1998 issue :-/
how many now we, a small forum know of?
Daz : 5
Jaime : 1
Jimbob : 1
and I know there are others....
MaxV6
whatever JamesV6CDX calls himself this week ;D
I remember a few others, but forget the member names. Always seems to be 98 3.0 (even those who thought they had 99 cars, when VIN checked, were 98 :-/)
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Guessing that the HG's are normally fine if they have correct levels of antifreeze in?
Now wishing I didn't drain all mine out and leave a coolant flush in it for a couple of weeks :-X :-[ (Rad is still partially blocked too >:()
Seems fine at the moment and I’m probably worrying now, but I guess if HG's on 98's are a weak spot that its best to work with them rather than against! ;D
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its revenge for all the stick you give 4 pot owners ;D
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MaxV6 had this issue - I replaced the HGs on this one
BAZMV6 also had the same issue on his 2001 facelift 3.0 MV6.
My 2.5 V plate facelift also is looking like it has the same issue...
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In 2004 I had a coolant leak which they thought was to do with the oil cooler - something in the V of the engine anyway. It ended up with needing cyllinder head gasket - then there was an issue of not being able to skim the heads - it went off to a specialist firm - they were then going to fit old bits back in it - kicked up a stink with VX and ended up with completely rebuilt top end. Of course 4 years later (in 2008) they screwed up the cam belt change and had to put me a brand new engine in all over again
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Just remembered - in 2004 they actually fitted all new heads due to concerns at warranty on skimming -
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In 2004 I had a coolant leak which they thought was to do with the oil cooler - something in the V of the engine anyway. It ended up with needing cyllinder head gasket - then there was an issue of not being able to skim the heads - it went off to a specialist firm - they were then going to fit old bits back in it - kicked up a stink with VX and ended up with completely rebuilt top end. Of course 4 years later (in 2008) they screwed up the cam belt change and had to put me a brand new engine in all over again
:-X :-X :-X :-X
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Extract from a thread on Vauxhall Owners site - all I remember now is that they were talking about a coolant leak related to the oil cooler and it ended up with all new cylinder heads and everything else associated therewith.
"Coolant Leak ....same as mine
I stripped Inlet manifold down to find water on the Oil cooer Sealing plate...porous hole in plate plus leaky seal......replaced cooler and plate complete £95 for items and did job myself....was warned that when undoing original cooler locking nuts the thread will cross....and it did..!!
Any way after building back up and starting up ...leak still present....drips at back of cyl head onto exhaust near downpipe/manifold joint.
Checked hoses and replaced Inlet to head banjo bolt dowty washers with copper washers. Still no joy.
Dealer said not uncommon for this engine cyl heads to leak out......car runs good....no contamination in oil or coolant but heater doesnt get hot in cabin and temp gauge floats from 90-94c alot...never overheats.
Next job to look at.....Cyl headf gasket....as ive exhausted anything else i can think of.
Any help from u guys would be welcome"
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Extract from a thread on Vauxhall Owners site - all I remember now is that they were talking about a coolant leak related to the oil cooler and it ended up with all new cylinder heads and everything else associated therewith.
"Coolant Leak ....same as mine
I stripped Inlet manifold down to find water on the Oil cooer Sealing plate...porous hole in plate plus leaky seal......replaced cooler and plate complete £95 for items and did job myself....was warned that when undoing original cooler locking nuts the thread will cross....and it did..!!
Any way after building back up and starting up ...leak still present....drips at back of cyl head onto exhaust near downpipe/manifold joint.
Checked hoses and replaced Inlet to head banjo bolt dowty washers with copper washers. Still no joy.
Dealer said to leak out.not uncommon for this engine cyl heads .....car runs good....no contamination in oil or coolant but heater doesnt get hot in cabin and temp gauge floats from 90-94c alot...never overheats.
Next job to look at.....Cyl headf gasket....as ive exhausted anything else i can think of.
Any help from u guys would be welcome"
this must have been the problem with this elite as i had no problems with it over 15thou miles. did loose a little coolant though, just sorry it went pop on daz. but hey, ya takes ya chances. ;)
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Extract from a thread on Vauxhall Owners site - all I remember now is that they were talking about a coolant leak related to the oil cooler and it ended up with all new cylinder heads and everything else associated therewith.
"Coolant Leak ....same as mine
I stripped Inlet manifold down to find water on the Oil cooer Sealing plate...porous hole in plate plus leaky seal......replaced cooler and plate complete £95 for items and did job myself....was warned that when undoing original cooler locking nuts the thread will cross....and it did..!!
Any way after building back up and starting up ...leak still present....drips at back of cyl head onto exhaust near downpipe/manifold joint.
Checked hoses and replaced Inlet to head banjo bolt dowty washers with copper washers. Still no joy.
Dealer said to leak out.not uncommon for this engine cyl heads .....car runs good....no contamination in oil or coolant but heater doesnt get hot in cabin and temp gauge floats from 90-94c alot...never overheats.
Next job to look at.....Cyl headf gasket....as ive exhausted anything else i can think of.
Any help from u guys would be welcome"
this must have been the problem with this elite as i had no problems with it over 15thou miles. did loose a little coolant though, just sorry it went pop on daz. but hey, ya takes ya chances. ;)
I did also say it seemed slow, which you agreed with.
It is now done and is far faster, how a 3.0 should be also with no water leak ::)
As for "But hey, ya takes ya chance" I would not say that to anyone that had anything off me being honest, ah well I will know for another time ;)
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Extract from a thread on Vauxhall Owners site - all I remember now is that they were talking about a coolant leak related to the oil cooler and it ended up with all new cylinder heads and everything else associated therewith.
"Coolant Leak ....same as mine
I stripped Inlet manifold down to find water on the Oil cooer Sealing plate...porous hole in plate plus leaky seal......replaced cooler and plate complete £95 for items and did job myself....was warned that when undoing original cooler locking nuts the thread will cross....and it did..!!
Any way after building back up and starting up ...leak still present....drips at back of cyl head onto exhaust near downpipe/manifold joint.
Checked hoses and replaced Inlet to head banjo bolt dowty washers with copper washers. Still no joy.
Dealer said to leak out.not uncommon for this engine cyl heads .....car runs good....no contamination in oil or coolant but heater doesnt get hot in cabin and temp gauge floats from 90-94c alot...never overheats.
Next job to look at.....Cyl headf gasket....as ive exhausted anything else i can think of.
Any help from u guys would be welcome"
this must have been the problem with this elite as i had no problems with it over 15thou miles. did loose a little coolant though, just sorry it went pop on daz. but hey, ya takes ya chances. ;)
I did also say it seemed slow, which you agreed with.
It is now done and is far faster, how a 3.0 should be also with no water leak ::)
As for "But hey, ya takes ya chance" I would not say that to anyone that had anything off me being honest, ah well I will know for another time ;)
trying to say i sold you a dud`en then eh :o
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Extract from a thread on Vauxhall Owners site - all I remember now is that they were talking about a coolant leak related to the oil cooler and it ended up with all new cylinder heads and everything else associated therewith.
"Coolant Leak ....same as mine
I stripped Inlet manifold down to find water on the Oil cooer Sealing plate...porous hole in plate plus leaky seal......replaced cooler and plate complete £95 for items and did job myself....was warned that when undoing original cooler locking nuts the thread will cross....and it did..!!
Any way after building back up and starting up ...leak still present....drips at back of cyl head onto exhaust near downpipe/manifold joint.
Checked hoses and replaced Inlet to head banjo bolt dowty washers with copper washers. Still no joy.
Dealer said to leak out.not uncommon for this engine cyl heads .....car runs good....no contamination in oil or coolant but heater doesnt get hot in cabin and temp gauge floats from 90-94c alot...never overheats.
Next job to look at.....Cyl headf gasket....as ive exhausted anything else i can think of.
Any help from u guys would be welcome"
this must have been the problem with this elite as i had no problems with it over 15thou miles. did loose a little coolant though, just sorry it went pop on daz. but hey, ya takes ya chances. ;)
I did also say it seemed slow, which you agreed with.
It is now done and is far faster, how a 3.0 should be also with no water leak ::)
As for "But hey, ya takes ya chance" I would not say that to anyone that had anything off me being honest, ah well I will know for another time ;)
trying to say i sold you a dud`en then eh :o
Personally didn't think your little "ya take your chances ;)" was perhaps the best term to use, comes over asthough your laughing in my opinion
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Extract from a thread on Vauxhall Owners site - all I remember now is that they were talking about a coolant leak related to the oil cooler and it ended up with all new cylinder heads and everything else associated therewith.
"Coolant Leak ....same as mine
I stripped Inlet manifold down to find water on the Oil cooer Sealing plate...porous hole in plate plus leaky seal......replaced cooler and plate complete £95 for items and did job myself....was warned that when undoing original cooler locking nuts the thread will cross....and it did..!!
Any way after building back up and starting up ...leak still present....drips at back of cyl head onto exhaust near downpipe/manifold joint.
Checked hoses and replaced Inlet to head banjo bolt dowty washers with copper washers. Still no joy.
Dealer said to leak out.not uncommon for this engine cyl heads .....car runs good....no contamination in oil or coolant but heater doesnt get hot in cabin and temp gauge floats from 90-94c alot...never overheats.
Next job to look at.....Cyl headf gasket....as ive exhausted anything else i can think of.
Any help from u guys would be welcome"
this must have been the problem with this elite as i had no problems with it over 15thou miles. did loose a little coolant though, just sorry it went pop on daz. but hey, ya takes ya chances. ;)
I did also say it seemed slow, which you agreed with.
It is now done and is far faster, how a 3.0 should be also with no water leak ::)
As for "But hey, ya takes ya chance" I would not say that to anyone that had anything off me being honest, ah well I will know for another time ;)
trying to say i sold you a dud`en then eh :o
Personally didn't think your little "ya take your chances ;)" was perhaps the best term to use, comes over asthough your laughing in my opinion
Aww poor little daz :'( :'( :'( ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
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Guessing that the HG's are normally fine if they have correct levels of antifreeze in?
Now wishing I didn't drain all mine out and leave a coolant flush in it for a couple of weeks :-X :-[ (Rad is still partially blocked too >:()
Seems fine at the moment and I’m probably worrying now, but I guess if HG's on 98's are a weak spot that its best to work with them rather than against! ;D
Not sure servicing affects it - I'm a bit OTT with servicing, but mind went. Obviously, who knows what it had in first 5 years of its life, but I have the receipts for it being changed twice in first 5 years...
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Anybody help me out with were to get a head gasket kit from and what is in it and the best makes to go for....Glad to here daz's alot quicker now the gasket's done always a bouns. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Extract from a thread on Vauxhall Owners site - all I remember now is that they were talking about a coolant leak related to the oil cooler and it ended up with all new cylinder heads and everything else associated therewith.
"Coolant Leak ....same as mine
I stripped Inlet manifold down to find water on the Oil cooer Sealing plate...porous hole in plate plus leaky seal......replaced cooler and plate complete £95 for items and did job myself....was warned that when undoing original cooler locking nuts the thread will cross....and it did..!!
Any way after building back up and starting up ...leak still present....drips at back of cyl head onto exhaust near downpipe/manifold joint.
Checked hoses and replaced Inlet to head banjo bolt dowty washers with copper washers. Still no joy.
Dealer said to leak out.not uncommon for this engine cyl heads .....car runs good....no contamination in oil or coolant but heater doesnt get hot in cabin and temp gauge floats from 90-94c alot...never overheats.
Next job to look at.....Cyl headf gasket....as ive exhausted anything else i can think of.
Any help from u guys would be welcome"
this must have been the problem with this elite as i had no problems with it over 15thou miles. did loose a little coolant though, just sorry it went pop on daz. but hey, ya takes ya chances. ;)
I did also say it seemed slow, which you agreed with.
It is now done and is far faster, how a 3.0 should be also with no water leak ::)
As for "But hey, ya takes ya chance" I would not say that to anyone that had anything off me being honest, ah well I will know for another time ;)
trying to say i sold you a dud`en then eh :o
Personally didn't think your little "ya take your chances ;)" was perhaps the best term to use, comes over asthough your laughing in my opinion
laughing, i think not, i would have been gutted if it happened to me. as in, takes ya chances, well lets put it this way if the wife bought the white cab off you & it blew up. need i say more, ya takes ya chances. i dont think you can argue over the sale/part chop that we did. can you :-?
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Anybody help me out with were to get a head gasket kit from and what is in it and the best makes to go for....Glad to here daz's alot quicker now the gasket's done always a bouns. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Bloke on Ebay called Trechii does the head gaskets kits and bolts but your better off going to your dealer for cam cover gaskets, exhaust manifold gaskets ect
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Anybody help me out with were to get a head gasket kit from and what is in it and the best makes to go for....Glad to here daz's alot quicker now the gasket's done always a bouns. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Bloke on Ebay called Trechii does the head gaskets kits and bolts but your better off going to your dealer for cam cover gaskets, exhaust manifold gaskets ect
Thanks pete mate. Will have a look at that is there any makes to stay away from and is this all i need....The gasket set, blots,manifold gaskets and the cam cover stuff again....Only just done them a few months ago never mind.
This is gonna be a learning cuvre i can tell you that but kinda looking forward to doing it.
Just wondering though what about this k-seal i keep hearing about any good or do you think doing the head gaskets is the way to go any pros and cons ???
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Anybody help me out with were to get a head gasket kit from and what is in it and the best makes to go for....Glad to here daz's alot quicker now the gasket's done always a bouns. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Bloke on Ebay called Trechii does the head gaskets kits and bolts but your better off going to your dealer for cam cover gaskets, exhaust manifold gaskets ect
Thanks pete mate. Will have a look at that is there any makes to stay away from and is this all i need....The gasket set, blots,manifold gaskets and the cam cover stuff again....Only just done them a few months ago never mind.
This is gonna be a learning cuvre i can tell you that but kinda looking forward to doing it.
Just wondering though what about this k-seal i keep hearing about any good or do you think doing the head gaskets is the way to go any pros and cons ???
I would do the head gaskets, its a proper job and should last for years, K seal is a temporary bodge and causes more problems in the long run. I'm only down the raod from you if you need a hand ;)
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If you did the cam cover gaskets recently with genuine parts then you can re-use them without any issues.
Re-use the cam seals (pattern parts are truely rubbish)
New dowty washers for the coolant bridge
New O ring seal for the main coolent pipe to block joint.
Genuine exhaust manifold to block and manifold to front pipe gaskets.
Trechii for head gaskets and bolts plus stem seals if doing a head re-furb.
Its also worth considering re-sealing the oil cooler whilst stripped down as its very easy!
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If you did the cam cover gaskets recently with genuine parts then you can re-use them without any issues.
Re-use the cam seals (pattern parts are truely rubbish)
New dowty washers for the coolant bridge
New O ring seal for the main coolent pipe to block joint.
Genuine exhaust manifold to block and manifold to front pipe gaskets.
Trechii for head gaskets and bolts plus stem seals if doing a head re-furb.
Its also worth considering re-sealing the oil cooler whilst stripped down as its very easy!
Thanks for the info mark. :y :y
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Anybody help me out with were to get a head gasket kit from and what is in it and the best makes to go for....Glad to here daz's alot quicker now the gasket's done always a bouns. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Bloke on Ebay called Trechii does the head gaskets kits and bolts but your better off going to your dealer for cam cover gaskets, exhaust manifold gaskets ect
Thanks pete mate. Will have a look at that is there any makes to stay away from and is this all i need....The gasket set, blots,manifold gaskets and the cam cover stuff again....Only just done them a few months ago never mind.
This is gonna be a learning cuvre i can tell you that but kinda looking forward to doing it.
Just wondering though what about this k-seal i keep hearing about any good or do you think doing the head gaskets is the way to go any pros and cons ???
I would do the head gaskets, its a proper job and should last for years, K seal is a temporary bodge and causes more problems in the long run. I'm only down the raod from you if you need a hand ;)
Only just seen this post. Thanks for the offer pete sorry for not replying. :)