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Title: Grip & tyres
Post by: kevinminton on 07 January 2010, 16:18:47
Like most, I've had the opportunity to get to the limit of grip quicker than normal over the last few days. On compressed snow & (barely visible) ice, the Omega was basically not gripping most of the time & very slidey. Contrast with Mrs K's Escort - basically gripping, occassionally let go if prompted. A big difference, more than just the inherent differences in the cars.

Before you ask: 30yrs driving from Chevettes (Snow? Yippee!) through all sortsa cars to 2.6 auto Omega. So I think I understand about FWD, RWD, cadence and all that.

I wondered about the tyre differences - Omega tyres are V - blocky things, with no sipes - great in normal weather. Escort tyres are old-school with lotsa little blocks & some sipes.

Question is - do any OOFers have any experience / knowledge / thoughts on modern winter tyres - sipes for grip on ice, more flexible in low temperatures?

Your views would be welcome.

K
Title: Re: Grip & tyres
Post by: VXL V6 on 07 January 2010, 16:25:07
Which Omega / Model do you have.

The narrow the sidewall and wider the footprint the less they seem to grip IMHO

Might fit a set of Vredstein Snowtrac's on my spare wheels for next year...
Title: Re: Grip & tyres
Post by: Debs. on 07 January 2010, 16:19:18
I run four on Vredstein M & S in the Winter; they`re very good indeed on dry-snow and ice (less-so on slush as the tread doesn`t clear as well with the 'goopy' stuff)......for 'extremes' (as is now) I run with snow-chains on the rear: rock-solid grip and reliable stopping. :y
Title: Re: Grip & tyres
Post by: kevinminton on 07 January 2010, 16:26:54
Debs - sorry I moved it away while you were replying.

Interesting about the Vredesteins - here in the Midlands I wouldn't need to cater for your extremes.

BTW I really like that high road from Bala up over to Langynog Llanngynog on the way to Oswestry. You anywhere near that?
K
Title: Re: Grip & tyres
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 January 2010, 16:29:36
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Title: Re: Grip & tyres
Post by: kevinminton on 07 January 2010, 16:36:32
thanks boss
Title: Re: Grip & tyres
Post by: kevinminton on 07 January 2010, 16:45:51
Omega is 2002 2.6 CDX auto, on 225/55/16. Escort is on 185/60/14
Title: Re: Grip & tyres
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 07 January 2010, 17:22:11
http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m11b0s633p0

Some interesting tyre patterns

Title: Re: Grip & tyres
Post by: TheBoy on 07 January 2010, 17:25:42
Big wider tyres are far from ideal on ice.

Different tyres have different patterns, so your mileage will vary.

On my MV6 (235/45/17 tyres) I find dunlop SP9000 work well for me in these conditions - tend to drop rears to shade under 30 psi, and put junk in boot.

On my old tractor in last winter's snow, that had 225/55/16 Nexen CP641 which performed impeccably until I got home, then I struggled to get it on my sloping driveway.  That had a straight 6 diesel cylinder head, and other assorted crap in boot.
Title: Re: Grip & tyres
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 07 January 2010, 19:58:13
Winter tires compound designed to work better below 7-8 C than a normal summer or all season tire even in dry..

I'm using them for many years and definitely recommended.. ( I hate using chains)


all 3 brands in those links ok imho.. :y

ps: wait sometime for the pages to load completely..I failed ;D


pps: I'm using 195*65*15 goodyear UG 500 for  miggy in winter..

http://eu.goodyear.com/uk_en/tires/repository/UltraGripPerformance/index.jsp

http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/uk/en/continental/automobile/themes/car_tyres/cold_weather_tyres/contiwintercontact_ts_830/contiwintercontact_ts_830_en.html

http://www.bridgestone.co.uk/bfe/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=0c2fa1e3cd80e010VgnVCM1000005101a10aRCRD&vgnextchannel=000000000000000UK0000000000000000377RCRD
Title: Re: Grip & tyres
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 07 January 2010, 20:22:12
And I also must note that , as a general idea many people here put some extra weight in baggage for traction.. but keep in mind this will make the picture worse for braking..and also never ever trust a summer tire and ABS system to stop on ice.. :-/