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Title: Car scams
Post by: spacekid2009 on 10 February 2010, 21:17:55
Has anyone ever been blatantly ripped off, just been watching a police programme on beeb 1, some guy paid £6000 for a caravan, met the guy in a layby, no paperwork, police took it off him, just made me think, has anyone had similar experiences? By the way, i know it's his own fault, but you can't help feeling for the fella, some people are too trusting.
Title: Re: Car scams
Post by: johnnybbad on 10 February 2010, 21:44:41
yeah just been watching that myself,have bought a few cars in that situation ( apart from no paperwork ) and just been lucky i guess
Title: Re: Car scams
Post by: Andy B on 10 February 2010, 22:03:55
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Has anyone ever been blatantly ripped off, just been watching a police programme on beeb 1, some guy paid £6000 for a caravan, met the guy in a layby, no paperwork, police took it off him, just made me think, has anyone had similar experiences? By the way, i know it's his own fault, but you can't help feeling for the fella, some people are too trusting.

Just seen that myself. Pretty naive really, but it shows that it happens.

I idin't know that caravans came with a factory fit ID chip!
Title: Re: Car scams
Post by: Entwood on 10 February 2010, 22:12:37
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Has anyone ever been blatantly ripped off, just been watching a police programme on beeb 1, some guy paid £6000 for a caravan, met the guy in a layby, no paperwork, police took it off him, just made me think, has anyone had similar experiences? By the way, i know it's his own fault, but you can't help feeling for the fella, some people are too trusting.

Just seen that myself. Pretty naive really, but it shows that it happens.

I idin't know that caravans came with a factory fit ID chip!

Not all do .. but midrange and up for the last 8-10 years have ..... the one I have now came with alarm, chip and factory fitted tracker .. and its not one of the really expensive ones either .. :)


Title: Re: Car scams
Post by: webby23 on 10 February 2010, 22:15:46
Meeting in a lay by and buying without seeing paperwork......what else did he expect.....??

Numpty

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Title: Re: Car scams
Post by: Vamps on 10 February 2010, 22:16:59
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Has anyone ever been blatantly ripped off, just been watching a police programme on beeb 1, some guy paid £6000 for a caravan, met the guy in a layby, no paperwork, police took it off him, just made me think, has anyone had similar experiences? By the way, i know it's his own fault, but you can't help feeling for the fella, some people are too trusting.

Just seen that myself. Pretty naive really, but it shows that it happens.

I idin't know that caravans came with a factory fit ID chip!

Not all do .. but midrange and up for the last 8-10 years have ..... the one I have now came with alarm, chip and factory fitted tracker .. and its not one of the really expensive ones either .. :)




Yes, but is it fitted with a sprinkler system..... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Car scams
Post by: waspy on 10 February 2010, 22:19:04
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Meeting in a lay by and buying without seeing paperwork......what else did he expect.....??

Numpty

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Deserve all they get for being so stupid :)
Title: Re: Car scams
Post by: Entwood on 10 February 2010, 22:22:34
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Meeting in a lay by and buying without seeing paperwork......what else did he expect.....??

Numpty

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Deserve all they get for being so stupid :)

I don't think they are stupid .. they are GREEDY ..  these "sales" are at ridiculously cheap values .. and the greedy sods think they are getting something for nothing. Serves them right when they get stung IMHO.
Title: Re: Car scams
Post by: hotel21 on 10 February 2010, 22:23:01
A (now, sadly, late) friend of mine got scammed for about 9 grand by one of the Nigerian 419 scams for a car.  He asked me for advice after he had done the Western Union cash transfer from his local post office.

Such was the impact on his family and life, he took the bravest (but saddest) option open to him and drew a line under himself.

Really miss the chap.... :'(
Title: Re: Car scams
Post by: Andy B on 10 February 2010, 22:51:12
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A (now, sadly, late) friend of mine got scammed for about 9 grand by one of the Nigerian 419 scams for a car.  He asked me for advice after he had done the Western Union cash transfer from his local post office.

Such was the impact on his family and life, he took the bravest (but saddest) option open to him and drew a line under himself.

Really miss the chap.... :'(

What a sad end for a relatively modest sum of money!
Title: Re: Car scams
Post by: hotel21 on 10 February 2010, 22:55:53
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A (now, sadly, late) friend of mine got scammed for about 9 grand by one of the Nigerian 419 scams for a car.  He asked me for advice after he had done the Western Union cash transfer from his local post office.

Such was the impact on his family and life, he took the bravest (but saddest) option open to him and drew a line under himself.

Really miss the chap.... :'(

What a sad end for a relatively modest sum of money!

Certainly is.  Saddest thing is, fella was not stupid.  Far from it in fact.  But he was gullible, however, and fell for a combination of fancy sales patter and a degree of computer innocence.

I tried all manner of ways via contacts at (the then) work, who still are very clever in computer analysis and similar, but to no avail.  Once you punt your cash through Western Union, its gone...

Relatively modest amount of dosh to some, but a lot of blood, sweat, tears and overtime to him to get a larger car for his growing family.

Hey Ho.... 
Title: Re: Car scams
Post by: pedroMV6 on 10 February 2010, 23:17:03
You see ads on ebay for cars like Merc 350 SLK's, couple of years old for say £7K.
The seller will tell you it's in France or Italy, but RHD on UK plates and wants money handing over before he ships it over to you.
Yeah, right!!!

We buy any car. com - that's a proper swindle!!!
Some people we know are emigrating in June, called up WBAC.com about their Vectra, and were told they'd buy for £3700 and to go to Carcraft. Result - only paid £3400ish for it a few months ago.

OK, so my thinking.......... they'll go to Carcraft then get told it's worth alot less cos of (insert excuse here..........) and end up poorer for it, whilst being nagged to buy a car from Carcraft.
Title: Re: Car scams
Post by: Andy B on 10 February 2010, 23:21:48
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OK, so my thinking.......... they'll go to Carcraft then get told it's worth alot less cos of (insert excuse here..........) and end up poorer for it, whilst being nagged to buy a car from Carcraft.

Correct!  :y http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1265832024/all
Title: Re: Car scams
Post by: spacekid2009 on 11 February 2010, 20:32:22
These scammers don't realise, or don't care what impact it will have on people, they prey on the weak, and don't give a second thought to the turmoil their greed can create, i know we all love a bargain, but don't ever EVER, let a good deal cloud your judgement, cover your own back every time, no bargain is worth that much. R I P to your friend.
Title: Re: Car scams
Post by: v6fletch on 11 February 2010, 20:37:47
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Meeting in a lay by and buying without seeing paperwork......what else did he expect.....??

Numpty

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Deserve all they get for being so stupid :)

I don't think they are stupid .. they are GREEDY ..  these "sales" are at ridiculously cheap values .. and the greedy sods think they are getting something for nothing. Serves them right when they get stung IMHO.
hear hear , greedy so an sos lol
Title: Re: Car scams
Post by: Dan1005 on 11 February 2010, 20:46:40
Last car I bought was a Opel Calibra, it looked good, no rust clean interior, nice engine that was running quite smooth. only cost 1400 euro, which was all my savings for two years... Saw the paperwork and all looked good..
At the time I didnt have the money to register it straight away, so had to wait, this meant I had to go through police checks.. then one day I finally got to it, (after spending 600 euro on new wheels and rims for registration).. and when I returned to pick up the car, who is there but the police. Turns out the car had a dodgy vin number placed over the top of the old one, but it was only by cutting out the carpet that you could check.. Police took the car and three months later after checks I got it back.. Car is now sitting outside as it is unregisterable. Guy who sold it to me refuses to give money back, despite the law here in slovakia stating he has too..  Claims he could give it back, but doesnt want to.. I now have a lawyer on the case, but it could take years to retrive the money.. :(.

Overall at the moment ive lost nearly 2000 euro on it..
But it seems every dark cloud does have a silver lining, as I have now bought a Omega and it is by far a better car, larger engine and rear wheel drive!! much more fun...

Guess for me it just comes down to that you can try to protect yourself, but people really do know how to shift something and sometimes people are not as trusting as we wish they all are... ;(

Sorry to hear about your friend Hotel21, I can understand how much a small amount of money hurts to lose. Such a terrible waste for it to affect a person that drastically.. :(