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Title: breather box guide (in straight six news)
Post by: feeutfo on 24 May 2010, 18:18:16
ssn being the Autobahn stormers quarterly magazine.

This is very timely as i've a problem with mine being partly blocked, but thats the thing, the guide shows the atual box itself dismantled with the side plat spotweld drilled out to reveal two baffles.

The shape of the baffles is such that its bot possible for the box to block one breather outlet or the other, as mine appears to be blocked on the smaller pipe only, clearly i've not understood something or i have a differant box design, which seems unlikely as the only differance mentioned in the guide is the gaskit itself which incorporates the flap or is presumanly seperate on later cars, ie mine. Maybe the flap has broken off and blocked mine as the flap is on the small pipe side?

Anyway just wanted to say thanks Andy Clears for his efforts and that having seen that the side plate glue is not attavhing the box to the back of 1,3,5 head but is in fact seperate altogether i'll be having a go at cleaning it out asap. :y

ps, might have been better posting a thankyou on the abs site but i'm not registered there.
Title: Re: breather box guide (in straight six news)
Post by: RobG on 24 May 2010, 18:32:09
Did you get your magnetic tax holder as well
Title: Re: breather box guide (in straight six news)
Post by: amba on 24 May 2010, 18:34:39
Mine arrived today...nice touch I thought.
Title: Re: breather box guide (in straight six news)
Post by: feeutfo on 24 May 2010, 18:44:08
yep, magnetic glass aye. ;D
Title: Re: breather box guide (in straight six news)
Post by: Kevin Wood on 24 May 2010, 18:45:38
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Did you get your magnetic tax holder as well

 8-)

Could be timely, as my OOF one is in a bad state of repair. :'(

Kevin
Title: Re: breather box guide (in straight six news)
Post by: RobG on 24 May 2010, 18:48:00
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Did you get your magnetic tax holder as well

 8-)

Could be timely, as my OOF one is in a bad state of repair. :'(

Kevin
Ah, I missed out on the OOF ones :'(
Title: Re: breather box guide (in straight six news)
Post by: Kevin Wood on 24 May 2010, 18:50:55
Come to think of it, I think I have a spare OOF one unused somewhere. Perhaps all is not lost?

Kevin
Title: Re: breather box guide (in straight six news)
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 24 May 2010, 19:05:28
Mine arrived today - you beat me to it!

My small pipe was blocked, but pushing a pin down the hole cleared it out nicely. I then sprayed masses of carb  cleaner down both holes.

I'd already drained the oil from my car so was amazed at just how much crud came out of the sump drain hole - but looking at the design of the insides it seems that I've probably filled one of the internal corners with carb cleaner - if you get my drift.

Perhaps another way of doing it would to to lay it down in a tray of parrafin - that should wash the crud out if left for a while. It would also save the hassle of drilling the weld spot out & repairing it afterwards.

I'm on ABS but can't seem to get a thank-you PM to Andy - when I do I'll say thanks on behalf of OOF members also  :y
Title: Re: breather box guide (in straight six news)
Post by: VXL V6 on 24 May 2010, 19:36:31
Wonder how much a new breather box is? Could fit a new one and clean the old one at your leisure then.

Title: Re: breather box guide (in straight six news)
Post by: pedroMV6 on 24 May 2010, 20:33:27
Must admit to reading Mr. C's write up and thinking it might be an idea to get another, clean and service that and make sure all is well then swap it out with the one on the engine.
 :y
Title: Re: breather box guide (in straight six news)
Post by: MikeDundee on 24 May 2010, 21:05:45
Was reading it earlier, useful article :y
Title: Re: breather box guide (in straight six news)
Post by: Andy B on 24 May 2010, 21:40:04
So .... what brand names are used to glue the cover back on with? :-/ ;)
Title: Re: breather box guide (in straight six news)
Post by: feeutfo on 24 May 2010, 22:10:19
would have used grey oil cooler goo prior to reading :-/
Title: Re: breather box guide (in straight six news)
Post by: Andy B on 24 May 2010, 22:15:52
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would have used grey oil cooler goo prior to reading :-/

I've seen ordinary bathroom sealent used for exhausts before now, it works quite well apparently  :-/
Title: Re: breather box guide (in straight six news)
Post by: pedroMV6 on 24 May 2010, 22:34:48
Yes, because it's silicon and therefore heat resistant to bloody-silly-ow-ow-ow hot!

I would think it would be OK to use, but downside is you don't know what's getting squeezed inside when you clamp the two halves back together.
Failing that, Bostik Matrix 500 - hundreds of uses from helping used O rings to seal to sticking a GRP-faced side back on a race trailer! :y
Title: Re: breather box guide (in straight six news)
Post by: Andy B on 24 May 2010, 22:38:48
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Yes, because it's silicon and therefore heat resistant to bloody-silly-ow-ow-ow hot!

I would think it would be OK to use, but downside is you don't know what's getting squeezed inside when you clamp the two halves back together.
Failing that, Bostik Matrix 500 - hundreds of uses from helping used O rings to seal to sticking a GRP-faced side back on a race trailer! :y

Looks like you could use it to glue plastic rocker covers back on if you had oil leaks!  ::)  ::)
Title: Re: breather box guide (in straight six news)
Post by: andyc on 24 May 2010, 23:31:21
Cheers guys.

Done that a while back for the SSN and i must say thats there are no leaks from after a year or so.

The glue is a special bonding agent that is used in the bodyshop to bond things like new roof skins on and for bonding the frame work to panels like bonnets and boot lids.

Now to be honest with you i haven't got the flappy gasket thing in any of these that i've done and haven't noticed and difference.

Seeing inside also make you wonder where all the crap goes when you just clean out the pipes

Cheers
Andy
Title: Re: breather box guide (in straight six news)
Post by: Andy B on 24 May 2010, 23:33:45
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The glue is a special bonding agent that is used in the bodyshop to bond things like new roof skins on and for bonding the frame work to panels like bonnets and boot lids. ....

Sikaflex  :-/
Title: Re: breather box guide (in straight six news)
Post by: feeutfo on 25 May 2010, 07:03:22
nice one andyc :y

i also wonder where the flap goes when it brakes off? :-/
Title: Re: breather box guide (in straight six news)
Post by: Kevin Wood on 25 May 2010, 09:31:51
Don't use general purpose silicone on anything upstream of the lambda sensor, or preferably anything at all on a car. It gives off fumes that will ruin the lambda sensor as it cures. In addition, it's not resistant to oil and fuel so it will break down if used to seal cam covers, breather boxes, etc. and the bits will find their way into the oil pickup strainer or perhaps even the oil pump.

Very useful to see the insides of the breather box, though. :y

Kevin
Title: Re: breather box guide (in straight six news)
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 25 May 2010, 09:49:41
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Cheers guys.

Done that a while back for the SSN and i must say thats there are no leaks from after a year or so.

The glue is a special bonding agent that is used in the bodyshop to bond things like new roof skins on and for bonding the frame work to panels like bonnets and boot lids.

Now to be honest with you i haven't got the flappy gasket thing in any of these that i've done and haven't noticed and difference.

Seeing inside also make you wonder where all the crap goes when you just clean out the pipes

Cheers
Andy

hi Andy,

Many thanks for doing this - couldn't find you on the ABS forum to say thanks.

Can you advise the part number and price for a breather please, is it covered as a Trade Club price?

Thanks again ..........

Rob
Title: Re: breather box guide (in straight six news)
Post by: andyc on 26 May 2010, 09:19:33
Hi Rob

Breather box is £38.49 + VAT and the grey sealant is £8.95 + VAT

Cheers
Andy