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Title: Things I have learnt this week about my car
Post by: Teebee on 15 September 2010, 17:21:46
Newer is not necessarily better!

If you have low coolant warning and it only loses a little go hunt it down anyway, when it decides to turn into a lot it WILL be at the most inconvenient time/place.

Even with a massive leak you can abuse the V6 engine to un-thought of levels and it will still run.
Take the pi$$ and it will give up on you.

Stripping it down to oil cooler level is a breeze.
VX need a kick in the nads for making the injector riser so tight to get out.

The ABS ECU is not only as bad as people say to get out, it's worse.
VX need a kick in the nads for placing it there, 6 screws and 2 connectors should be a 10 min job.

People who change these things for a living don't get paid enough!!

This post has been brought to you by 5 hours of ABS ECU removal, you think of all sorts of things as you curse away.
Title: Re: Things I have learnt this week about my car
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 15 September 2010, 17:40:34
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Newer is not necessarily better!

If you have low coolant warning and it only loses a little go hunt it down anyway, when it decides to turn into a lot it WILL be at the most inconvenient time/place.

Even with a massive leak you can abuse the V6 engine to un-thought of levels and it will still run.
Take the pi$$ and it will give up on you.

Stripping it down to oil cooler level is a breeze.
VX need a kick in the nads for making the injector riser so tight to get out.

The ABS ECU is not only as bad as people say to get out, it's worse.
VX need a kick in the nads for placing it there, 6 screws and 2 connectors should be a 10 min job.

People who change these things for a living don't get paid enough!!

This post has been brought to you by 5 hours of ABS ECU removal, you think of all sorts of things as you curse away.

There is a nack to that one.  :y
Title: Re: Things I have learnt this week about my car
Post by: Teebee on 15 September 2010, 18:05:03
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There is a nack to that one.  :y
Which I spotted reasonably quickly but even so it's a cozy fit  :)
Title: Re: Things I have learnt this week about my car
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 15 September 2010, 18:15:29
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There is a nack to that one.  :y
Which I spotted reasonably quickly but even so it's a cozy fit  :)

Its a good design then  ;D

The ABS I seem to recall is on the opposite side on LHD cars.....hence its one of the design compromises
Title: Re: Things I have learnt this week about my car
Post by: TheBoy on 15 September 2010, 19:45:45
You forgot the obvious one...

...v6 owners should always carry a crank sensor in the boot ::)
Title: Re: Things I have learnt this week about my car
Post by: Brikhead on 15 September 2010, 19:52:47
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Stripping it down to oil cooler level is a breeze.
VX need a kick in the nads for making the injector riser so tight to get out.

There is a nack to that one.  :y

You just tilt it. Hardly any great secret!?
Title: Re: Things I have learnt this week about my car
Post by: Andy B on 15 September 2010, 20:03:02
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You forgot the obvious one...

...v6 owners should always carry a crank sensor in the boot ::)

It was because of your problems re a lack of crank sensor that I bought a spare for my boot for our trip to France last year. It came in very handy a few months
back one Friday afternoon just before we joined the motorway. When the recovery bloke arrived, I told him the fault & handed him the spare!  ;D It was a first  for him to be given the correct part for the job at the roadside. :y :y

and I have put another in the boot  ;)
Title: Re: Things I have learnt this week about my car
Post by: Teebee on 15 September 2010, 20:10:39
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You forgot the obvious one...

...v6 owners should always carry a crank sensor in the boot ::)
I shouldn't say this...... in 8 years of ownership i've never had one go. There, doomed now  ;)
Title: Re: Things I have learnt this week about my car
Post by: Teebee on 15 September 2010, 20:12:39
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You just tilt it. Hardly any great secret!?
It's only a secret until you spot the indentations in the head that it sits in.
Title: Re: Things I have learnt this week about my car
Post by: TheBoy on 15 September 2010, 20:34:33
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You forgot the obvious one...

...v6 owners should always carry a crank sensor in the boot ::)

It was because of your problems re a lack of crank sensor that I bought a spare for my boot for our trip to France last year. It came in very handy a few months
back one Friday afternoon just before we joined the motorway. When the recovery bloke arrived, I told him the fault & handed him the spare!  ;D It was a first  for him to be given the correct part for the job at the roadside. :y :y

and I have put another in the boot  ;)
Well, if my misfortune, and my subsequent advice has helped others, thats what makes me return to this site :y
Title: Re: Things I have learnt this week about my car
Post by: Martin_1962 on 15 September 2010, 22:33:24
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You forgot the obvious one...

...v6 owners should always carry a crank sensor in the boot ::)

It was because of your problems re a lack of crank sensor that I bought a spare for my boot for our trip to France last year. It came in very handy a few months
back one Friday afternoon just before we joined the motorway. When the recovery bloke arrived, I told him the fault & handed him the spare!  ;D It was a first  for him to be given the correct part for the job at the roadside. :y :y

and I have put another in the boot  ;)
Well, if my misfortune, and my subsequent advice has helped others, thats what makes me return to this site :y


And the fact it lives in your house ;D ;D
Title: Re: Things I have learnt this week about my car
Post by: Brikhead on 15 September 2010, 23:44:58
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You just tilt it. Hardly any great secret!?
It's only a secret until you spot the indentations in the heads that it sits in between.
:y
Title: Re: Things I have learnt this week about my car
Post by: Broomies Mate on 15 September 2010, 23:50:24
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You just tilt it. Hardly any great secret!?
It's only a secret until you spot the indentations in the heads that it sits in between.
:y
LOLZ
Title: Re: Things I have learnt this week about my car
Post by: Teebee on 15 September 2010, 23:55:44
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You just tilt it. Hardly any great secret!?
It's only a secret until you spot the indentations in the heads that it sits in between.
:y
I'm allowed grammar mistakes after spending as many hours as I did on the ABS today  :)
Title: Re: Things I have learnt this week about my car
Post by: TheBoy on 16 September 2010, 09:30:10
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You forgot the obvious one...

...v6 owners should always carry a crank sensor in the boot ::)

It was because of your problems re a lack of crank sensor that I bought a spare for my boot for our trip to France last year. It came in very handy a few months
back one Friday afternoon just before we joined the motorway. When the recovery bloke arrived, I told him the fault & handed him the spare!  ;D It was a first  for him to be given the correct part for the job at the roadside. :y :y

and I have put another in the boot  ;)
Well, if my misfortune, and my subsequent advice has helped others, thats what makes me return to this site :y


And the fact it lives in your house ;D ;D
That could be easily changed if necessary ;)
Title: Re: Things I have learnt this week about my car
Post by: Teebee on 16 September 2010, 19:29:39
Yesterday removal of the good ECU from the scrap car took 5 hrs, today replacement on my elite took the same again so definitely getting faster seeing as that involved putting the fiddly screws back in  :y

Unfortunately it's not fully rebuilt yet as I still need to get some PAS oil and refit the top radiator hose.

Talking of which up until today i've always removed and replaced those clips with a set of mole grips, that was until I met clipzilla that secures the pipe to the block. I managed to remove it using mole grips but when I went to replace it it had sprung shut to the max and I couldn't open the grips far enough to compress it. I attempted to compress it with water pump pliers but it launched itself into orbit and I decided that some things are just too dangerous to bodge  ;D

So, tomorrow i'm off for a walk(!) to get a set of proper pliers and some oil.
Title: Re: Things I have learnt this week about my car
Post by: aaronjb on 16 September 2010, 19:36:56
I hate those spring clips with a passion!

One of the two little tangs that you squeeze it by decided to snap off on the main radiator hose on the Toyota - good job I'd bought a spare hose 'just in case' and it snapped on the radiator end, really!
Title: Re: Things I have learnt this week about my car
Post by: Kevin Wood on 16 September 2010, 19:52:55
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I hate those spring clips with a passion!

They're not too bad, imho. They grip the hose nice and evenly, can't be overtightened and stretch and relax with the thermal cycling an engine sees.

Easier to remove than a jubilee clip that's been rusting away for years and has embedded itself in the rubber.

Kevin
Title: Re: Things I have learnt this week about my car
Post by: Teebee on 16 September 2010, 20:24:22
I can't remember the last time I had a stuck jubilee clip though, and the spring clips I took off today were just as embedded in the rubber.
Title: Re: Things I have learnt this week about my car
Post by: Entwood on 16 September 2010, 20:27:30
Be very careful with jubilee clips, have a GOOD look at what you are tightening on to.

Many radiator pipes are now plastic, a jubilee clip will not allow these to expand/contract as the temperature changes, so they crack ... as they are not a replaceable bit it means a new radiator ... an expensive outcome over a very minor part .. :(
Title: Re: Things I have learnt this week about my car
Post by: Andy B on 16 September 2010, 20:27:37
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Easier to remove than a jubilee clip that's been rusting away for years and has embedded itself in the rubber.

Kevin

You've not changed your for stainless then?  ;)  ;)  ;)

No I haven't done so on my Omega .... that was on the Senator  ;))
Title: Re: Things I have learnt this week about my car
Post by: aaronjb on 16 September 2010, 20:58:44
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I hate those spring clips with a passion!

They're not too bad, imho. They grip the hose nice and evenly, can't be overtightened and stretch and relax with the thermal cycling an engine sees.

Easier to remove than a jubilee clip that's been rusting away for years and has embedded itself in the rubber.

I said I hated them... I didn't say I hated jubilee clips any less  ;D

One of these days I'll just get around to buying a decent pair of spring clip pliers instead of messing with mole grips like the OP, I'm sure that will diminish my hatred some ;)
Title: Re: Things I have learnt this week about my car
Post by: TheBoy on 16 September 2010, 21:24:06
The spring clips are the best option.  They are easy enough, not sure I understand the issue?  Damn sight quicker that jubilee clips as well (which aren't suited to this application).


The pesky ones are the Click-Rs which are the type on the breathers at the back (assuming still there).  But these are dead easy with a proper Click-R tool, though pricey at £12 (Amazon)
Title: Re: Things I have learnt this week about my car
Post by: feeutfo on 18 September 2010, 16:25:24
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The spring clips are the best option.  They are easy enough, not sure I understand the issue?  Damn sight quicker that jubilee clips as well (which aren't suited to this application).


The pesky ones are the Click-Rs which are the type on the breathers at the back (assuming still there).  But these are dead easy with a proper Click-R tool, though pricey at £12 (Amazon)
Not done an hbv on your face lift yet have you? Clips have half one of the tabs missing, special tool available no doubt.  :(