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Title: Omega V12
Post by: geoffr70 on 27 December 2010, 22:58:07
I found this short vid on youtube. Looks real. I wonder if anyone knows anything about it?

Dropping a v8 in doesn't seem so appealling now!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apo3LFgJ4k0&feature=related
Title: Re: Omega V12
Post by: mantagte on 27 December 2010, 23:01:18
what vid would that be?
Title: Re: Omega V12
Post by: Psychoca on 28 December 2010, 00:15:28
If it is the N73 engine, then it could be a bit of a worthy beast to have in the engine bay, with all of its 48 valves...

If it is the older M70 (as indicated it could be) then it is only 300bhp, making the LS1 the better option..
Title: Re: Omega V12
Post by: tunnie on 28 December 2010, 08:55:13
looks like an old Carlton Estate
Title: Re: Omega V12
Post by: Danny on 28 December 2010, 09:00:09
it is indeed a carlton estate
Title: Re: Omega V12
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 28 December 2010, 09:09:06
v12 is superb imo as long as they give you a fuel station for free also ;D
Title: Re: Omega V12
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 28 December 2010, 09:29:47
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it is indeed a carlton estate[/quote]

No, as it is an Opel it would be an Omega! ;)
Title: Re: Omega V12
Post by: tunnie on 28 December 2010, 09:44:08
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it is indeed a carlton estate[/quote]

No, as it is an Opel it would be an Omega! ;)

Its still a Carlton in my money  ;D
Title: Re: Omega V12
Post by: Psychoca on 28 December 2010, 13:02:11
Found this '94 Omega running a V8...

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N__PXqzuyB0[/media]
Title: Re: Omega V12
Post by: geoffr70 on 28 December 2010, 13:10:20
There's loads of v8 omega vids on youtube, but that seems less appealling at the thought of a v12.

I once had an idea about getting an old v70 and mounting a jag v12 in the back and making it rwd, imagine an omega like this!
Title: Re: Omega V12
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 28 December 2010, 15:12:16
It's ok mentioningV12 but V12 What?  Am assuming V12 XJS 5.3 that only developes 299bhp.

Where as the average 350 chevy with a cam and carb change would stump up 300/350 bhp with over 400 ft lbs torge for pulling trees out of the gargen.

V8 V V12    V8 Wins every time for me.
Title: Re: Omega V12
Post by: geoffr70 on 28 December 2010, 17:18:49
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It's ok mentioningV12 but V12 What?  Am assuming V12 XJS 5.3 that only developes 299bhp.

Where as the average 350 chevy with a cam and carb change would stump up 300/350 bhp with over 400 ft lbs torge for pulling trees out of the gargen.

V8 V V12    V8 Wins every time for me.

but 12 is bigger, so that is better :P
Title: Re: Omega V12
Post by: Kevin Wood on 28 December 2010, 23:15:08
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It's ok mentioningV12 but V12 What?  Am assuming V12 XJS 5.3 that only developes 299bhp.

Where as the average 350 chevy with a cam and carb change would stump up 300/350 bhp with over 400 ft lbs torge for pulling trees out of the gargen.

V8 V V12    V8 Wins every time for me.

Until you hear it. :-*

Kevin
Title: Re: Omega V12
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 29 December 2010, 03:33:39
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It's ok mentioningV12 but V12 What?  Am assuming V12 XJS 5.3 that only developes 299bhp.

Where as the average 350 chevy with a cam and carb change would stump up 300/350 bhp with over 400 ft lbs torge for pulling trees out of the gargen.

V8 V V12    V8 Wins every time for me.

but 12 is bigger, so that is better :P

I followed the custom cars years ago, and a guy created an XJS with 6 wheels called 100+

He ripped out the V12 and dropped in a 454 Chevy with a few extra BHP instantly, plus an enormous amount of space under the bonnet.

http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=print&thread=90195

Title: Re: Omega V12
Post by: feeutfo on 29 December 2010, 08:31:09
That video shows the Rats omega. Rats being a Norwegian automatic transmission company, and the car is their showcase, albeit with a manual box but anyway, they chose the omega for it's aerodynamic shape! Could have had any car they wanted, and likewise any engine they wanted, in this case a Lexus v8!

They tuned the lump, to just short of 1000 hp I believe, and built a transmission to handle that power, which was the point of the project and their business.

The Rats web site shows the story in more detail, and where they had to cut and re weld the chassis to make it fit, with a steering rack from a Nissan as the old steering box was in the way.

To me a very interesting part of that video is how little steering input is required to get it round that oval. Although the surface will be billiard table smooth I would think, no lorries rolling round the outside lane at least.

Anyway, Gm's canned v8 project was a straight fit. Special parts, including exhaust manifolds and steering box oil cooler where needed, and I reckon the real reason the project failed lies somewhere in the those parts, and nothing to do with restricted coolant ways in the ls1 lump as I believe was claimed.

Title: Re: Omega V12
Post by: geoffr70 on 29 December 2010, 12:32:10
Ooops! It does look like a Carlton. Should put the beer down and take more notice!
Title: Re: Omega V12
Post by: 2woody on 04 January 2011, 10:06:35
Jag V12 engine does fit into Omega B.

don't ask me how I know ..... ;)
Title: Re: Omega V12
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 January 2011, 10:20:37
I would guess the V12 is a 60deg unit so a bit narrower than the V8....and we know a straight six fits in