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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Matt Read on 06 February 2011, 10:50:25
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Is anybody else on here just not having a good Omega experience. I have never owned a car that has been so unreliable, so unlucky and just such a drain. I am really starting to hate my V6 CDX.
Never know what is going to happen next with it, whether it will start, run and if so for how long until the next thing goes wrong. >:(
Probably not the best place to be having a go at them and if you are sensitive sorry, but, it's good to talk sometimes! Hopefully somebody here can understand and reassure me that I am not just throwing my money away into a bottomless pit.
It is certainly the last one (last petrol for sure) I will own and if it gets to the end of the insurance year without me driving it into a lake or setting fire to it will be lucky.
Oh, and it's MOT time soon........ :'(
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From reading the Omega help thread its fair to say that some mig's do have their fair share of problem and some cars will have more issues than others.
They are amazing value for money and if something does goes wrong the low initial outlay compared to a 5 series or A6 ect should make things hurt a little less that if you had spend 3 or 4 grand on a car.
Depends how much you like omega's and enjoy owning it really :y
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At least you know your on the best forum when the next problem arises with help only a click away. :y
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Been there done that mate :-[, now things are sorted it's a brilliant car :)
Just get it serviced and there's loads of support/advice on here to sort any problems. Stick at it ;)
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It's not all Omega's but I must admit, I did a lot of work on mine when I first got it as I'm a bit fussy and expect every button to do what it's supposed to ::)
That said, once you're on top of it, as long as you maintain it properly it should serve you well
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In 7.5yrs of ownership, my MV6 has been very good. Its suffered on crank sensor failure (at an inconvenient time ::)), and developed a bizarre, partially coincidental fault during its LPG conversion last year.
Other than that, I really can't complain. Except about the handbrake. Bloody useless thing. I hate it. Passionately. But handbrake aside, and no mention of air fresheners, I just seem to have to do a little proactive work every now and again, and just replace the occasional service item.
My Tractor/TB2, an Elite TD, which I had for 2yrs, once 'we' (the forum) had sorted out its problem, was also mostly trouble free, except ripping the sump plug out at 80mph ::) (thats not the cars fault ;D)
My Elite, admittedly doesn't get much use (about 1k since bought last summer), has been flawless as well, though maintenence has been a pain do to full dealer service history...
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Is anybody else on here just not having a good Omega experience. I have never owned a car that has been so unreliable, so unlucky and just such a drain. I am really starting to hate my V6 CDX.
Never know what is going to happen next with it, whether it will start, run and if so for how long until the next thing goes wrong. >:(
Probably not the best place to be having a go at them and if you are sensitive sorry, but, it's good to talk sometimes! Hopefully somebody here can understand and reassure me that I am not just throwing my money away into a bottomless pit.
It is certainly the last one (last petrol for sure) I will own and if it gets to the end of the insurance year without me driving it into a lake or setting fire to it will be lucky.
Oh, and it's MOT time soon........ :'(
I know.. I was one of the unlucky ones who find this bottom very deep.. but it has an end, depending on the previous oner(s) care about the car >:(
imo before going into more expense, let it checked by a more experienced miggy owner and do some calculations...
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Some will be worse than others of course, but as with any car, there WILL BE SERVICE AND REPAIR WORK REQUIRED. Given the age of theses cars, newest will be 7 years old by now, 8 in June, it has to be expected IMO.
Some diy will be necessary, it's the price of a cheap car, the alternative is to spend considerably more on a newer car, and even then there's no guarantee it will be trouble free.
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I get that old cars start to need work and to be fair this is the first Omega I have had, although I have had a lot of Vauxhalls. So, I don't want top tar them all with the same brush.
I wouldn't mind really if the things that have happened had done so gradually. But, things started going wrong from about the 5th day of ownership. Also, a lot of them were to be expected of the age (2000 reg and apparently 83,000 miles, although sometimes I wonder....) but I just wish they hadn't had it all at the same time.
It developed a missfire within a week of buying it and we all know how expensive that can be (unless you know ElitePete). On diagnostics the crank sensor came up. The replacement was faulty, so had to get a second one fitted (didn't cost me because of the parts warranty). Some bozo whipped the drivers wing mirror off in the snow. It's still held on with gaffer tape as I frankly can't be a**d to fix it. Bit of a fashion statement I think!!! It has water pipe leaks after being stood for a while in the winter, at least I hope it is just pipes as I have found a few. It got a flat battery but I can forgive that as it was stood for a while. I got the cambelt be changed, which again is routine maintenance and I knew that it needed doing when I bought it. Even the drivers electric window switch has came loose. The radio needs a new code after the battery. Xenon headlight went. Level sensor went. Last but not least I need cam cover gaskets.
In short, I am sick of it and I am wondering if I have bought a lemon. It was meant to be a workhorse/tow car to keep the miles off our nice car, hence I bought it for less than a grand. I have done 2000 miles in it and the cheap run around now owes me almost the original price again. I dread the MOT got a feeling some bushes are worn!!!!
Ok guys. Enough moaning from me as it does no good to be a sour puss. Don't wanna ruin anybodies day ;D. I honestly do like the car. Comfiest car I have driven, I don't want to give up on it as underneath there must (?!?!?!?) be a good car. I have owned a lot of dumps as a kid and always got them nice so I know it gets better.
Anybody want an Omega lol, I geeve you gooood prrrice :y
Only joking.
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Hold in there Matt there will be light at the end of the tunnel! :) My elite has been the same everytime i sort one thing i find a couple of others that ned doing but my plan is (and im nearly there) getting everything mechanical sorted then start attempting the to sort the niggles. Since ive owned the car in november ive changed the wheel bearings twice both wishbones,fuel pump and now the glows have gone and i need to new rear shocks but its nearlly there so am pretty happy at the min got to admit though a couple off weeks ago i was in the same mindset as yourself and was ready to break her and sell her that way but im glad i never now as she nearlly there! ;D Like i said hold on because when everything starts getting sorted ansd shes going like a dream youll love her :y
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mate, ive had loads of things go wrong. i think of it more as a classic car (and to me it is classic) as opposed to a workhorse thats to be run into the ground!
on the day i got it home...
the rear window stopped working
the drivers door needed a new motor
and the cambelt needed doing (but i knew that s it was on 69000 miles and no history to say it had been done!
then the central locking stopped (part of the door motor problem) so until it was fixed had to open it manually by key and the alarm would go off :D :D :D :D
then new tyres, then the bonnet wouldnt open, then the back came off the drivers seat.....
you would have thought this would have sent me insane.....
however i cant tell you how much i love the car. i have built a rapport with it. and despite all these things is the best car ive ever owned.
my answer would be just get a list of al the things that need doing at one time and save up to get them done. i think youll love it when its not playing you up.
the other option is to get another one ;)
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oh and ps, mine is back in the garage next monday as its still juddering at 50...and sometimes 30. or 40 hahahahah love it!
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TBH Matt, frustrating as it is, most of the things you have stated are to be expected as maintenance.
If it makes you feel any better, I didn't pay a penny for my Omega (swapped it for a Classic Range Rover) but spent the best part of £2000 on it within 3 months :o :o Admittedly that included a LPG kit but it had 4 Tyres, Cambelt Kit, Camcover Gasgets and Breather Clean, Full Service, Rear Shocks (wish I'd bought new instead of 2nd hand), HBV, wishbones, crank sensor, brake pads all around etc...
All service type items but :'( :'( Since then <touches wood!> it's been pretty much faultless for the 60k odd. Replaced the wishbones again last year, but I consider these a service item along with brakes/tyres/exhaust/oil etc...
Hope that might make you feel a little better
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Ha ha,
Onwards and upwards then. Me and "Pauline" will get there in the end I suppose.
To Webby the Bear (great name), it was bought as a workhorse but NOT to be run into the ground, I like my cars clean and tidy. I still wash it every week and hoover regularly hoping it will apreciate the TLC!!! I know what you mean about the rapport. I just suspect yours is nicer than mine at present.
It will be nice to get some clear and fairly stress free miles out of her though.
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Ha ha,
Onwards and upwards then. Me and "Pauline" will get there in the end I suppose.
To Webby the Bear (great name), it was bought as a workhorse but NOT to be run into the ground, I like my cars clean and tidy. I still wash it every week and hoover regularly hoping it will apreciate the TLC!!! I know what you mean about the rapport. I just suspect yours is nicer than mine at present.
It will be nice to get some clear and fairly stress free miles out of her though.
It will come ;) ;) Once you get on top of everything they are superb mile munchers. Mine went to the south of Italy and back in September... 3500 miles in 10 days and was superb :y :y
I wouldn't think twice about getting in it now and driving the length and breadth of the country i I needed to :y :y
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Stick with it. Once you get on top of all the faults it will just be routine maintenance. As others have said already they are cheap cars to buy so some jobs may have been skimped on in the past. Put these right and they can be very good cars
I know took mine on a 3300 mile trip around europe in the summer. Never missed a beat.
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[quote I know took mine on a 3300 mile trip around europe in the summer. Never missed a beat.[/quote]
I will give you the fact that when it is on the motorway, or towing a load, it is a nice car. A very strong tower and on the motorways very nice. Especially when it kicks down at 80 ish!!
See you have a Triumph Spitfire, I have always wanted one of them!! Envious!!
Thanks for everybodies encouragement. I will see what the MOT throws up after I have replaced the wing mirror and hopefully stick with it.
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well i have had ignition barrel stuck completely, needs front brake pads, gearbox oil and filter, 3 new tyres, a set of plugs, a door that wont lock on the button, auto that dies at any time it likes, revs that hunt more than a rich person on a fox hunt, heaters that work then go off after 20 mins, 19mpg amongst other faults but........ its a mig and i love it and price paid to price repaired i couldnt get the value anywhere else... and when running mint they are AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! 8-) 8-)
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Let me tell you something.........
I do probably more miles than most in mine, as I am a mobile electro-mechanical engineer.
Somebody correct me if i;m wrong, but doing 35-40k a year is high milage, and apart from cambelts, wishbones and 'rods, tyres, LOADS of oil changes, a radiator after an altercation with a stray bolt, and the normal mots and exhaust bits, NOWT has really gone wrong!! (now i've jinxed it!)
Its a GREAT car, and only perhaps a volvo or merc 300 estate can beat it for carrying capacity.
My next car will almost certainly be another miggy estate!
Stick with it, you may have a bad one, but I doubt it, just a P.O that didn't give it the servicing it deserved.
Yes, mine is a moneypit, but ferchrissake its done 168k of hard, heavy load carrying miles loaded to the gunnals, and sometimes towing a 'van aswell.
Still love it though..................................... ::)
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Most of the mentioned problems with cars here are just plain old maintenance items.
Every type of gasket is something that will need replacing sooner or later. wishbones probably would be bulletprof if there wasn't so many potholes and your nice moist english weather ;D
Omega does suffer from some problems and those are mainly: shitty plastic interior coating
auto box intermittent problems, and some electrical problems with ecu-s and abs ecu.
Mechanically vise they seem to be very good cars
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I have often questioned the purchase of my Omega as it was only £350 two years ago so it must be scrap value by now.
I then look at what else is available for the same price and then it all makes sense,yes I have had and still do have problems but it is always going to be a service/consumable item that will eventually get sorted when I can afford it.
I have only done 2000 miles since my last MOT so in the grand scheme of things MPG doesn't really come into the reason for having a car that I might be able to walk away from should it be involved in an accident.
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If you buy one which hasnt been looked after properly it will have problems, and it will take time to work through them. My first one was such a car, and it drove me to distraction for a time, but once sorted and properly serviced, they are generally reliable. :y
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Most of the stuff listed are consumables and need replacing at some point anyway, not something I'd moan about, all cars require that sort of maintenance.
When you think of the VFM these cars provide you can't grumble too much, especially as the competition at the same price point will most likely cost a lot more to maintain!
In the 6 months I've had mine I've spent £700+ on; camcover gaskets, new windscreen, 5 new tyres, new battery, 20L oil + filters, ballast pack.
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You bought, for less than a grand, a ten year old car that when new was a serious competitor to the BMW 5-Series.
I really hope you get the problems sorted out with it as Migs are very good motors, but in all honesty I just cannot see how you can complain. If you were expecting to get trouble-free, zero cost motoring from it then you were kidding yourself. Get some oil on yer hands and have a bash! :y
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when i brought my one it seemed a bit like that...but now having got most of the peel off my lemon it is quite a nice car :y
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You can have good and bad with any car its a gamble,you have just got to hope the services have been done o k, It didn't cost me anything but i had a brand new merc c180 in 2003 and after two months and eight breakdowns i sent it back and had a refund, so new or old it happens.Chin up ;D ;D
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I have bought 3 omegas, the first in 2000, then in 2007 and then in 2010, the latter 2 we still have.... :y
All were in theory perfect purchases, fsh etc but all have needed work to get them sorted, still on with the latest purchase the 2.2.. ::) ::)
However, as others have said, once sorted and then maintained properly they are reliable, spacious and comfortable cars.....and cheap for what you get.... :y :y
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Matt, you haven't bought a lemon mate, have a read through the help pages at some of the things that can go wrong. You can save yourself a lot of money by attempting the fixes yourself if you've got a bit of confidence and reading through the excellent guides on this forum. You'll also learn a lot about your car in the process and not get so worked up when things go wrong.
All the things you've described so far are just things that most owners on here expect to see at some point ;D
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Like I said, I realise things go wrong with cars and they need taking care of. I have owned plenty of cars with a few Tea Breaks under their belt!
Zero cost motoring is not what I expected. However, all this stuff going wrong in a very short period of time and less than 2000 miles seemed unreasonable to me as I have had cars with twice the mileage with half the problems straight off the bat.
I'm sure everybody know's what I mean when you just feel as though you can't trust it anymore and just waiting for the next thing to go wrong when you turn the key.
However, it is encouraging seeing it is not just me and others out there have had a similar experience. It is comforting to see people saying that once the work is done, Omega's seem to be thought of as reliable enough.
I have decided to keep with it depending on what the MOT in May kicks up. If it fails badly, there may be another thread soon starting with "anybody want an MOT failure Omega?"
So, Cheers.
Matt :y
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Like I said, I realise things go wrong with cars and they need taking care of. I have owned plenty of cars with a few Tea Breaks under their belt!
Zero cost motoring is not what I expected. However, all this stuff going wrong in a very short period of time and less than 2000 miles seemed unreasonable to me as I have had cars with twice the mileage with half the problems straight off the bat.
I'm sure everybody know's what I mean when you just feel as though you can't trust it anymore and just waiting for the next thing to go wrong when you turn the key.
However, it is encouraging seeing it is not just me and others out there have had a similar experience. It is comforting to see people saying that once the work is done, Omega's seem to be thought of as reliable enough.
I have decided to keep with it depending on what the MOT in May kicks up. If it fails badly, there may be another thread soon starting with "anybody want an MOT failure Omega?"
So, Cheers.
Matt :y
Best get that postcount up then :-X ::) :D
Seriously though Matt, I know what you mean but I wouldn't hesitate if I had to do a long trip in mine now :y :y
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Like I said, I realise things go wrong with cars and they need taking care of. I have owned plenty of cars with a few Tea Breaks under their belt!
Zero cost motoring is not what I expected. However, all this stuff going wrong in a very short period of time and less than 2000 miles seemed unreasonable to me as I have had cars with twice the mileage with half the problems straight off the bat.
I'm sure everybody know's what I mean when you just feel as though you can't trust it anymore and just waiting for the next thing to go wrong when you turn the key.
However, it is encouraging seeing it is not just me and others out there have had a similar experience. It is comforting to see people saying that once the work is done, Omega's seem to be thought of as reliable enough.
I have decided to keep with it depending on what the MOT in May kicks up. If it fails badly, there may be another thread soon starting with "anybody want an MOT failure Omega?"
So, Cheers.
Matt :y
Matt, just in case it doesn't get through the annual prodding could you do me a favour, and buy this and fit it before you stick it on here as a MoT failure?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vauxhall-Omega-Leather-Interior-/330500912826?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4cf363b6ba
Go on, I'll be yer bestest mate if you do. :D
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Like I said, I realise things go wrong with cars and they need taking care of. I have owned plenty of cars with a few Tea Breaks under their belt!
Zero cost motoring is not what I expected. However, all this stuff going wrong in a very short period of time and less than 2000 miles seemed unreasonable to me as I have had cars with twice the mileage with half the problems straight off the bat.
I'm sure everybody know's what I mean when you just feel as though you can't trust it anymore and just waiting for the next thing to go wrong when you turn the key.
However, it is encouraging seeing it is not just me and others out there have had a similar experience. It is comforting to see people saying that once the work is done, Omega's seem to be thought of as reliable enough.
I have decided to keep with it depending on what the MOT in May kicks up. If it fails badly, there may be another thread soon starting with "anybody want an MOT failure Omega?"
So, Cheers.
Matt :y
Matt, just in case it doesn't get through the annual prodding could you do me a favour, and buy this and fit it before you stick it on here as a MoT failure?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vauxhall-Omega-Leather-Interior-/330500912826?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4cf363b6ba
Go on, I'll be yer bestest mate if you do. :D
You can get the interior for less than that
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I have done 20k in my 4 pot. Cam sensor was faulty when I bought it so changed that.
Everything apart from the drivers heated seat works perfectly, cars runs like new. :)
The worst thing about these cars is the suspension parts!!!! have replaced most of them :(