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Title: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: robbo2345 on 21 February 2011, 22:53:34
trying to decide which to go for ! anybody have any info on pitfalls with each engine apart from the usual stuff  :-/ :-/
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: Lazydocker on 21 February 2011, 22:54:50
Not really much between them... I'd go for a 3.2 as it'll be newest ;) But from the 3, if the 2.5 was better maintained I'd go for that
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: Andy B on 21 February 2011, 22:55:58
there's no substitute for cubes!  :y :y :y
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: Lazydocker on 21 February 2011, 22:58:26
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there's no substitute for cubes!  :y :y :y

Think you mean, There's no replacement for Displacement :y :y
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: blackviper90210 on 21 February 2011, 23:00:26
Hiya,

I've had 4 Omegas now:

pre facelift 3.0 mv6 lovely fast comfortable car...  ;D

2x facelift 2.5 Elite's, again fab cars but not as quick as I'd like.. 8-)

Currently a mini facelift 3.0 Elite with LPG... no complaints!  :D

IMHO, which ever one you decide to get, you won't be disappointed. They are all fun cars..
If your wondering about fuel consumption, I've not really noticed much difference between the 2.5 or 3.0, but like any car you have, it depends on how heavy right footed you are!

Hope that helps mate   :y
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: Nickbat on 21 February 2011, 23:01:33
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trying to decide which to go for ! anybody have any info on pitfalls with each engine apart from the usual stuff  :-/ :-/

Why no 2.6 in that list? I'm plenty happy with mine. Drive-by-wire, enough power, not too thirsty. What's not to like?  ;) :)
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: robbo2345 on 21 February 2011, 23:07:28
Thanks for the input guys must admit i did love my 3.0 m/fl elite not quite as happy with the 2.5 elite i have now but have the oppertunity of a 3.2 mv6 or 3.0mv6 not worried about fuel consumption  :y :-/ so guess it might have to be the 3.2 :D :D :y
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: Shimmy on 21 February 2011, 23:21:35
Whichever you can find in the best condition.
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: albitz on 21 February 2011, 23:31:41
If your not worried about MPG a 3.2, as late/ low mileage an example as you can find. :y
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: Omega_Dan on 22 February 2011, 08:10:42
2.6 is probably a good all rounder. My 2.5 is just right for me as i hardly ever use the sport mode but if i have to its quick enough. 3.0/3.2 will put a bigger smile on your face :y
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 22 February 2011, 08:20:17
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trying to decide which to go for ! anybody have any info on pitfalls with each engine apart from the usual stuff  :-/ :-/

Why no 2.6 in that list? I'm plenty happy with mine. Drive-by-wire, enough power, not too thirsty. What's not to like?  ;) :)

To many issues around the 2001 production year possibly
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: unlucky mark mv6 on 22 February 2011, 19:01:41
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Thanks for the input guys must admit i did love my 3.0 m/fl elite not quite as happy with the 2.5 elite i have now but have the oppertunity of a 3.2 mv6 or 3.0mv6 not worried about fuel consumption  :y :-/ so guess it might have to be the 3.2 :D :D :y
Mine is still up for sale robbo if you want it. :y
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: Martin_1962 on 22 February 2011, 20:55:14
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trying to decide which to go for ! anybody have any info on pitfalls with each engine apart from the usual stuff  :-/ :-/

Why no 2.6 in that list? I'm plenty happy with mine. Drive-by-wire, enough power, not too thirsty. What's not to like?  ;) :)

To many issues around the 2001 production year possibly


Only valve stem seals
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: damon80 on 23 February 2011, 01:53:38
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trying to decide which to go for ! anybody have any info on pitfalls with each engine apart from the usual stuff  :-/ :-/

As I mentioned on an earlier post, I get between 35 and 39Mpg out of my 3.2 - but am considering LPG'ing it with the miles I'm starting doing.

To put things into perspective, my lady wife has a 1.7 Puma (b100dy rot box it is  >:( but the lady gets what the lay wants...) I've posted on here before about this, but long story short...  We brim the tanks on a Sunday afternoon ready for the weekly slog.

The wife does an A-B journey in her Puma, and didn't believe me when I told her that "The Beast" (as our nippers call it  ;D) uses less fuel than hers.  We did a swap for a full week- she used the Mig, and I swallowed my pride to climb inside a Ford...  :-[  After the weeks' trial was up, and the Omega was tanked up to the brim again, it cost a couple of quid LESS than she'd used the week before in her Puma - and that's after going out for a shopping trip in the Omega on the Saturday too!!

The difference is, 5th Gear in my Omega at 70mph is just under 2.5k rpm - 5th Gear in the Puma at 70mph is over 4k rpm.

Fair enough, our Mig is an Ex-Police manual - the best bit about it is the fact that you can sink it into 5th gear at 15mph and it pulls cleanly to it's top speed (whatever that is - my last Mig, same spec as this one, but was a marked car (hence white, not unmarked like this), with me, the wife and kids was up to 140mph with holiday clothes and camping gear in the boot, on the Autobahn's a couple of summers ago on ou holiday - plenty more to go too, but I bottled it  :-[  ;D) ).

No doubt an Auto would use more motion lotion tho, but would be a more relaxing drive no doubt...

Long story short, economy is all about how you drive it.  If you drive the engine's strengths (i.e shed-loads of power and torque from a 3.2), you can better the economy of a smaller unit (I.E. the wife's Puma) where you need to be more aggresive with the throttle to gain similar momentum.

If only this crack-pot Government would realise the same, instead of basing current taxation on engine size and an unrealistic measure on CO2 emissions...  >:(

Sorry to rant on matey, but all I'll say as a closing word on the matter is....


Go for the 3.2  :y
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: unlucky mark mv6 on 23 February 2011, 22:19:55
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trying to decide which to go for ! anybody have any info on pitfalls with each engine apart from the usual stuff  :-/ :-/

As I mentioned on an earlier post, I get between 35 and 39Mpg out of my 3.2 - but am considering LPG'ing it with the miles I'm starting doing.

To put things into perspective, my lady wife has a 1.7 Puma (b100dy rot box it is  >:( but the lady gets what the lay wants...) I've posted on here before about this, but long story short...  We brim the tanks on a Sunday afternoon ready for the weekly slog.

The wife does an A-B journey in her Puma, and didn't believe me when I told her that "The Beast" (as our nippers call it  ;D) uses less fuel than hers.  We did a swap for a full week- she used the Mig, and I swallowed my pride to climb inside a Ford...  :-[  After the weeks' trial was up, and the Omega was tanked up to the brim again, it cost a couple of quid LESS than she'd used the week before in her Puma - and that's after going out for a shopping trip in the Omega on the Saturday too!!

The difference is, 5th Gear in my Omega at 70mph is just under 2.5k rpm - 5th Gear in the Puma at 70mph is over 4k rpm.

Fair enough, our Mig is an Ex-Police manual - the best bit about it is the fact that you can sink it into 5th gear at 15mph and it pulls cleanly to it's top speed (whatever that is - my last Mig, same spec as this one, but was a marked car (hence white, not unmarked like this), with me, the wife and kids was up to 140mph with holiday clothes and camping gear in the boot, on the Autobahn's a couple of summers ago on ou holiday - plenty more to go too, but I bottled it  :-[  ;D) ).

No doubt an Auto would use more motion lotion tho, but would be a more relaxing drive no doubt...

Long story short, economy is all about how you drive it.  If you drive the engine's strengths (i.e shed-loads of power and torque from a 3.2), you can better the economy of a smaller unit (I.E. the wife's Puma) where you need to be more aggresive with the throttle to gain similar momentum.

If only this crack-pot Government would realise the same, instead of basing current taxation on engine size and an unrealistic measure on CO2 emissions...  >:(

Sorry to rant on matey, but all I'll say as a closing word on the matter is....


Go for the 3.2  :y
37 mpg from a manual 3.2 :o that has surprised me damon,im lucky to see 17 mpg in my auto,and can stick a tenner a day in that. >:(
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: Shimmy on 23 February 2011, 23:21:53
I get about 22-25 mpg in my 3.2 auto, very mixed driving and not particularly gentle either.
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: robbo2345 on 23 February 2011, 23:45:20
well lots of thoughts and info here guys thanks  :-/  i have now found a 2.6 elite with all the toys in near mint condition and only 2 owners and 75thou on the clock and full history thats made me think again  :-/ :-/ lol if only i had a brain :D :D ;)
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: damon80 on 25 February 2011, 01:22:06
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trying to decide which to go for ! anybody have any info on pitfalls with each engine apart from the usual stuff  :-/ :-/

As I mentioned on an earlier post, I get between 35 and 39Mpg out of my 3.2 - but am considering LPG'ing it with the miles I'm starting doing.

To put things into perspective, my lady wife has a 1.7 Puma (b100dy rot box it is  >:( but the lady gets what the lay wants...) I've posted on here before about this, but long story short...  We brim the tanks on a Sunday afternoon ready for the weekly slog.

The wife does an A-B journey in her Puma, and didn't believe me when I told her that "The Beast" (as our nippers call it  ;D) uses less fuel than hers.  We did a swap for a full week- she used the Mig, and I swallowed my pride to climb inside a Ford...  :-[  After the weeks' trial was up, and the Omega was tanked up to the brim again, it cost a couple of quid LESS than she'd used the week before in her Puma - and that's after going out for a shopping trip in the Omega on the Saturday too!!

The difference is, 5th Gear in my Omega at 70mph is just under 2.5k rpm - 5th Gear in the Puma at 70mph is over 4k rpm.

Fair enough, our Mig is an Ex-Police manual - the best bit about it is the fact that you can sink it into 5th gear at 15mph and it pulls cleanly to it's top speed (whatever that is - my last Mig, same spec as this one, but was a marked car (hence white, not unmarked like this), with me, the wife and kids was up to 140mph with holiday clothes and camping gear in the boot, on the Autobahn's a couple of summers ago on ou holiday - plenty more to go too, but I bottled it  :-[  ;D) ).

No doubt an Auto would use more motion lotion tho, but would be a more relaxing drive no doubt...

Long story short, economy is all about how you drive it.  If you drive the engine's strengths (i.e shed-loads of power and torque from a 3.2), you can better the economy of a smaller unit (I.E. the wife's Puma) where you need to be more aggresive with the throttle to gain similar momentum.

If only this crack-pot Government would realise the same, instead of basing current taxation on engine size and an unrealistic measure on CO2 emissions...  >:(

Sorry to rant on matey, but all I'll say as a closing word on the matter is....


Go for the 3.2  :y
37 mpg from a manual 3.2 :o that has surprised me damon,im lucky to see 17 mpg in my auto,and can stick a tenner a day in that. >:(

Jey-sus Mark - you must be caning it summut rotten to get 17mpg!   :o  ;D

I must admit, it's very rare mine goes above 3k rpm - in these austere times, I always try to maximise fuel economy...  :-[

But I do miss being able to have a "play" and show the local chav's up on the dual carriage way - that's why I'm contemplating going down the LPG route, so I can afford to enjoy the performance of the ol' girl, which is what got me addicted to em in the first place  :'(
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: robbo2345 on 26 February 2011, 17:55:15
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trying to decide which to go for ! anybody have any info on pitfalls with each engine apart from the usual stuff  :-/ :-/

Why no 2.6 in that list? I'm plenty happy with mine. Drive-by-wire, enough power, not too thirsty. What's not to like?  ;) :)
well guys i couldnt pass this one up i have gone for a 2.6 elite 2001 Y plate near mint with 75,000 on the clock full vx history 4 new tyres and discs and pads in the last few months COLOUR SAT NAV parking sensors built in phone all the usual bits 6 months t & t £1100 how did i do :D ;) ;)
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: Martin_1962 on 26 February 2011, 18:45:41
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trying to decide which to go for ! anybody have any info on pitfalls with each engine apart from the usual stuff  :-/ :-/

Why no 2.6 in that list? I'm plenty happy with mine. Drive-by-wire, enough power, not too thirsty. What's not to like?  ;) :)
well guys i couldnt pass this one up i have gone for a 2.6 elite 2001 Y plate near mint with 75,000 on the clock full vx history 4 new tyres and discs and pads in the last few months COLOUR SAT NAV parking sensors built in phone all the usual bits 6 months t & t £1100 how did i do :D ;) ;)


Very well
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: robbo2345 on 26 February 2011, 18:52:50
Cheers Martin i think so just a small scrape on the front bumper which will get sorted and the roof ariel but thats it  :D :D i am chuffed to bits ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: shyboy on 27 February 2011, 09:55:48
Try to suss whether it is one like mine which has the suspect valve stem seals. Somewhere on here Marks DTM quoted the serial nos. of the iffy production run in 2001,but I can't find it.
It's more of an aggravation than a serious problem, at the beginning anyway, and manifests itself by a cloud of blue oil smoke on start-up after a rest. Just keep a careful eye on your oil consumption.
Excellent choice, by the way.
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: Martin_1962 on 27 February 2011, 10:34:30
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Try to suss whether it is one like mine which has the suspect valve stem seals. Somewhere on here Marks DTM quoted the serial nos. of the iffy production run in 2001,but I can't find it.
It's more of an aggravation than a serious problem, at the beginning anyway, and manifests itself by a cloud of blue oil smoke on start-up after a rest. Just keep a careful eye on your oil consumption.
Excellent choice, by the way.


Mine had red hard valve seals - now has green ones
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: tonyyeb on 27 February 2011, 10:56:50
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2.6 is probably a good all rounder. My 2.5 is just right for me as i hardly ever use the sport mode but if i have to its quick enough. 3.0/3.2 will put a bigger smile on your face :y

Blimey, Dan - are you a monk? Do you enjoy denying yourself pleasure??  :o
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: robbo2345 on 27 February 2011, 11:54:09
as said i will keep an eye on the oil levels and have spoken to DLK and am happy that i shall live with it for the time being anyway  ::) :y
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: tonyyeb on 27 February 2011, 16:04:00
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I get about 22-25 mpg in my 3.2 auto, very mixed driving and not particularly gentle either.

Just been out on a 55-mile economy drive, part town, part country, just to see what I could get out of my 3.0 Elite auto if driven sensibly (i.e completely unlike how I usually drive it  ;D), and the best indication I got up to was 28.9 mpg. Soon as the revs go above 2000 rpm, the indicator starts shaving points off. Its not impossible to drive it under 2000 rpm, but it is a little unnatural, and I also found myself looking more at the read-out than in my mirrors (not really a good thing).
Is this about par for the course?
Title: Re: A question, 2.5, 3.0 or 3.2
Post by: unclelicklug on 27 February 2011, 16:15:40
To the OP - I think you did well, top spec, proper history, very reasonable miles.
I have thought of replacing my 2.2 TD estate - and an estate in that spec is tempting bar fuel costs.
Looked at other cars but there's not much with the carrying capacity of the Omega.
Anyway interesting topic, nice result..