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Title: wheels ran away :(
Post by: Thomas-Elite on 11 March 2011, 17:59:26
Bit of a shock today. Ended up chasing my wheel down the road after it popped off and bounced up and down the side of my car. both back wheels popped off while going round a roundabout. (what i kick in the nads) n/s/r stayed on went under the arch and so did very littel damage. o/s/r like i said dented every pannel on the drivers side and rolled away... Booked into a garage tomorow for tracking balancing and new wheel bolts all around. Then into the body shop next week. what you all think? someone want me dead?
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Post by: henryd on 11 March 2011, 18:06:50
had you had the wheels off recently,or do you reckon someone loosened them ?,tough luck by the way,lucky speed was low
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Post by: Thomas-Elite on 11 March 2011, 18:41:48
No havnet touched the wheels since i have had the car. about 1500 miles ago. No problems up Untill today. Quite gutted. but like you said lucky i was onlt doing 15 / 20 mph. Had just got off the M4 so was doing 70 80 ish there.
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Post by: Omega_Dan on 11 March 2011, 18:45:18
For both wheels to come off id be very suspicious :-/
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Post by: albitz on 11 March 2011, 19:01:36
Its difficult to see any other explanation than someone has loosened your wheel nuts imo.Got any enemys ? :o :o
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Post by: Thomas-Elite on 11 March 2011, 19:08:47
 :-[ Not that i know of. :'(
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Post by: Del Boy on 11 March 2011, 19:36:40
You do realise, if someone has loosened your wheel nuts, that can be classed as attempted murder.
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Post by: MICHELINMAN on 11 March 2011, 20:39:38
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You do realise, if someone has loosened your wheel nuts, that can be classed as attempted murder.

......of the car or the owner....  :-/
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Post by: TheBoy on 11 March 2011, 20:42:43
Last time I lost a wheel (a few years ago), it was because the garage had done them up too tight.  I was driving quite fast at the time ::), but fortunately a ditch slowed me to a halt.
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Post by: MICHELINMAN on 11 March 2011, 20:45:11
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Last time I lost a wheel (a few years ago), it was because the garage had done them up too tight.  I was driving quite fast at the time ::), but fortunately a ditch slowed me to a halt.

too tight?
how can they come off like that?
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Post by: Del Boy on 11 March 2011, 20:45:12
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You do realise, if someone has loosened your wheel nuts, that can be classed as attempted murder.

......of the car or the owner....  :-/

Well both I suppose  :)
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Post by: MICHELINMAN on 11 March 2011, 20:47:48
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You do realise, if someone has loosened your wheel nuts, that can be classed as attempted murder.

......of the car or the owner....  :-/

Well both I suppose  :)

 :oshocking!
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Post by: TheBoy on 11 March 2011, 20:49:20
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Last time I lost a wheel (a few years ago), it was because the garage had done them up too tight.  I was driving quite fast at the time ::), but fortunately a ditch slowed me to a halt.

too tight?
how can they come off like that?
Excess loads on them, they eventually shear. Which puts excess stress on the others, and fairly quickly went braking hard for a 70 degree tight right hander, you see your NSF wheel beating you to the apex...  ...around the sme time you get that unmistakable sensation of the brake disc shattering as it ploughs into tarmac.
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Post by: Lazydocker on 11 March 2011, 20:51:58
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Last time I lost a wheel (a few years ago), it was because the garage had done them up too tight.  I was driving quite fast at the time ::), but fortunately a ditch slowed me to a halt.

too tight?
how can they come off like that?
Excess loads on them, they eventually shear. Which puts excess stress on the others, and fairly quickly went braking hard for a 70 degree tight right hander, you see your NSF wheel beating you to the apex...  ...around the sme time you get that unmistakable sensation of the brake disc shattering as it ploughs into tarmac.
... and a rather moist feeling in the seat of your pants :-X :-X :D :D
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Post by: Del Boy on 11 March 2011, 20:53:03
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You do realise, if someone has loosened your wheel nuts, that can be classed as attempted murder.

......of the car or the owner....  :-/

Well both I suppose  :)

 :oshocking!

On a serious note though, someone who was a friend of one of my family members did this to a bloke who cheated with his wife, he went inside for it, and they did class it as attempted murder  :-/
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Post by: TheBoy on 11 March 2011, 20:58:16
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Last time I lost a wheel (a few years ago), it was because the garage had done them up too tight.  I was driving quite fast at the time ::), but fortunately a ditch slowed me to a halt.

too tight?
how can they come off like that?
Excess loads on them, they eventually shear. Which puts excess stress on the others, and fairly quickly went braking hard for a 70 degree tight right hander, you see your NSF wheel beating you to the apex...  ...around the sme time you get that unmistakable sensation of the brake disc shattering as it ploughs into tarmac.
... and a rather moist feeling in the seat of your pants :-X :-X :D :D
Oddly, I was unphazed by it, I was more worried about the bollocking I was going to get from the garage (was in works van).

Fortunately, I had a ladder on the roof, a butt (test phone) in the back, the knowledge to 'borrow' somebodys phone line, and was 'parked' just a few yards from a telegraph pole ::)


And yes, that miserable tinker Rose did tear me off a strip, made me fill out a driver misuse form, even though it was his technicians that breaked it all up, and could have easily ended up being far more serious...  ...much like the time when the engine fell out (and that was another driver misuse form).
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Post by: TheBoy on 11 March 2011, 21:00:00
I should add, I've had a wheel fall off the Elite as well. Opps Daisy ::)
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Post by: MICHELINMAN on 11 March 2011, 21:02:28
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You do realise, if someone has loosened your wheel nuts, that can be classed as attempted murder.

......of the car or the owner....  :-/

Well both I suppose  :)

 :oshocking!

On a serious note though, someone who was a friend of one of my family members did this to a bloke who cheated with his wife, he went inside for it, and they did class it as attempted murder  :-/

Now this IS a bit of juicy gossip! :o :o :o :o :o
Tell us more............ ::) ::) ::)
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Post by: Teebee on 11 March 2011, 21:16:13
I had both the left side wheels fall off a beetle that we were towing to the scrap yard, that will teach me to try and speed up the wheel removal process at the yard by removing 2 bolts from each wheel  :D :D The stupid part is when the rear wheel came off first both me and my mate who was doing the towing though haha, someone has lost a wheel!! When it lurched back onto the hub and the front disappeared as well it wasn't so funny  :o
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Post by: Teebee on 11 March 2011, 21:17:52
Actually, a serious thought, have you checked the front bolts? If they are loose it is deliberate.
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Post by: Del Boy on 11 March 2011, 21:22:31
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You do realise, if someone has loosened your wheel nuts, that can be classed as attempted murder.

......of the car or the owner....  :-/

Well both I suppose  :)

 :oshocking!

On a serious note though, someone who was a friend of one of my family members did this to a bloke who cheated with his wife, he went inside for it, and they did class it as attempted murder  :-/

Now this IS a bit of juicy gossip! :o :o :o :o :o
Tell us more............ ::) ::) ::)

Well basically, what happened was a bloke tried it on with his wife, they had a bit bit of how's your fathers brother, he undone the wheel nuts one night, got found out, got a 3 year prison sentence, came out after the first year and spent the next year on probation.

Why he couldn't do the simple thing and go and smack the bloke I'll never know  ;D ;D ;)
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Post by: MICHELINMAN on 11 March 2011, 21:27:17
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You do realise, if someone has loosened your wheel nuts, that can be classed as attempted murder.

......of the car or the owner....  :-/

Well both I suppose  :)

 :oshocking!

On a serious note though, someone who was a friend of one of my family members did this to a bloke who cheated with his wife, he went inside for it, and they did class it as attempted murder  :-/

Now this IS a bit of juicy gossip! :o :o :o :o :o
Tell us more............ ::) ::) ::)

Well basically, what happened was a bloke tried it on with his wife, they had a bit bit of how's your fathers brother, he undone the wheel nuts one night, got found out, got a 3 year prison sentence, came out after the first year and spent the next year on probation.

Why he couldn't do the simple thing and go and smack the bloke I'll never know  ;D ;D ;)

But....................was it an OMEGA  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Del Boy on 11 March 2011, 21:30:12
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You do realise, if someone has loosened your wheel nuts, that can be classed as attempted murder.

......of the car or the owner....  :-/

Well both I suppose  :)

 :oshocking!

On a serious note though, someone who was a friend of one of my family members did this to a bloke who cheated with his wife, he went inside for it, and they did class it as attempted murder  :-/

Now this IS a bit of juicy gossip! :o :o :o :o :o
Tell us more............ ::) ::) ::)

Well basically, what happened was a bloke tried it on with his wife, they had a bit bit of how's your fathers brother, he undone the wheel nuts one night, got found out, got a 3 year prison sentence, came out after the first year and spent the next year on probation.

Why he couldn't do the simple thing and go and smack the bloke I'll never know  ;D ;D ;)

But....................was it an OMEGA  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Nope  ;D
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Post by: MICHELINMAN on 11 March 2011, 21:32:29
Ah well THATS ALRIGHT THEN :y
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Post by: davethediver on 11 March 2011, 21:36:46
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You do realise, if someone has loosened your wheel nuts, that can be classed as attempted murder.

......of the car or the owner....  :-/

Well both I suppose  :)

 :oshocking!

On a serious note though, someone who was a friend of one of my family members did this to a bloke who cheated with his wife, he went inside for it, and they did class it as attempted murder  :-/

Now this IS a bit of juicy gossip! :o :o :o :o :o
Tell us more............ ::) ::) ::)

Well basically, what happened was a bloke tried it on with his wife, they had a bit bit of how's your fathers brother, he undone the wheel nuts one night, got found out, got a 3 year prison sentence, came out after the first year and spent the next year on probation.

Why he couldn't do the simple thing and go and smack the bloke I'll never know  ;D ;D ;)

But....................was it an OMEGA  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Does it have to be in General Chat ;)
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Post by: Thomas-Elite on 11 March 2011, 22:08:39
Front wheels are fine. First thing i did was check. I kind of hope it just happened (as unlikely as it seems) Dont really like the thought that someones out to get me. Will be checking them offten for a while i think. After washing the rubber off all the paint the damage is not as bad as i first thought. But it still going into the garage next week.
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Post by: Elite Pete on 11 March 2011, 22:14:33
I'm surprised you didn't hear and feel it first unless all the studs snapped  :o
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Post by: Thomas-Elite on 11 March 2011, 22:21:32
That was another odd one. I found 8 of the 10 bolts close by. As if they had popped off in one go.  :-?
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Post by: Seth on 11 March 2011, 22:23:28
Exactly where are you at mate?
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Post by: Thomas-Elite on 11 March 2011, 22:31:33
Cwmbran mate. Just moved here from ponty last week.
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Post by: Lazydocker on 11 March 2011, 23:35:48
Just a thought... Are they standard wheels? Just wondering if they're aftermarket with spacers and the bolts are too short :-/
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Post by: russ0205 on 12 March 2011, 01:39:11
Thats not good both wheels i would have a good look as to why,good luck it was low speed mate  :-[
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Post by: Thomas-Elite on 12 March 2011, 09:50:49
Aftermarket, without spacers. But like i said there was no problems for the 1500 miles befor it happened. I was at the end of a 150mile trip when it happened to. Going to pick it up from the garage at 11 so fingers crossed it will be safe to drive again.
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Post by: TheBoy on 12 March 2011, 09:51:41
Is the PCD right on the wheels? Offset?
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Post by: Danny on 12 March 2011, 12:22:35
i know you say no spacers, but do you mean you also didnt have spigot rings to adapt to the centre bore? if not, the wheels would only have been held on by 20 bolts alone, if an aftermarket alloy isnt the correct centre bore the spigot ring to fill the gap is paramount

I do alot of messing about with alloys on cars, i've actually just bought a set yesterday to go on my bora, and this is literally just weeks after changing them before!! I'm on my 8th set in 2 years cos i get bored quickly, but i always ALWAYS check my wheel nuts at the correct time after changing wheels, and at least monthly, on top of random checks when i have a spare few minutes

when you're driving, the bolts are the only thing keeping the car stable on the road in a way!!

while delivering mail down a main road i was distracted by a loud grinding noise, as i looked round i was faced with the front wheel of a transit van coming straight for me which had bounced across the road and thankfully missed everything, until i ran out and kicked it to the floor!

garage had changed a tyre and not tightened his bolts up (his request) and he forgot to do it himself
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Post by: Thomas-Elite on 12 March 2011, 16:47:17
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i know you say no spacers, but do you mean you also didnt have spigot rings to adapt to the centre bore? if not, the wheels would only have been held on by 20 bolts alone, if an aftermarket alloy isnt the correct centre bore the spigot ring to fill the gap is paramount

I do alot of messing about with alloys on cars, i've actually just bought a set yesterday to go on my bora, and this is literally just weeks after changing them before!! I'm on my 8th set in 2 years cos i get bored quickly, but i always ALWAYS check my wheel nuts at the correct time after changing wheels, and at least monthly, on top of random checks when i have a spare few minutes

when you're driving, the bolts are the only thing keeping the car stable on the road in a way!!

while delivering mail down a main road i was distracted by a loud grinding noise, as i looked round i was faced with the front wheel of a transit van coming straight for me which had bounced across the road and thankfully missed everything, until i ran out and kicked it to the floor!

garage had changed a tyre and not tightened his bolts up (his request) and he forgot to do it himself

Im looking at a new set of wheels. Looking for the opinion of someone with a bit of know how. They are team dynamics, Stud Diameter:  112 & 114 - Rim Width:  9.5J - Rim Diameter:  19 inches - Offset:  35.

My arches are being rolled while the car is in for repair next week. Do you think these will get under the arches ok?
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Post by: Danny on 12 March 2011, 19:52:55
i think so, but the stud fitment's wrong if you're putting them on an omega

omega is 5x110, you can apparently get away with using wobble bolts if the difference is very small, but i personally wouldnt touch wobbly bolts since thats all that holds the wheels on!
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Post by: bigegg on 13 March 2011, 15:14:39
I once had all four wheels fall off a mondeo.
i;d swapped the steel wheels for alloys, and used the steel wheel nuts (bolts?) which have a smaller diameter head than the hole in the alloys...

Is it possible someone's tried nicking your wheels, and only got as far as undoing a couple of them?
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Post by: Thomas-Elite on 13 March 2011, 17:31:11
to be honest mate, your guess is as good as any. Think its just going to go unknown. Just one of them things. wil continue to check them offten, and hope it dont happen again. Not a nice feeling. And its costing me £250 to get repaired  >:(