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Title: Blown head gasket .. maybe ??
Post by: Pete-Mac on 16 February 2011, 11:11:18
Hi all .. adviced respectfully requested please!!
Last might my "check oil level" light illuminated and within minutes water temp had gone off the scale. AA called and on opening bonnet a horrible yellowy goo was seeping from the radiator bottle and (I think) from an overflow pipe. Diagnosis was blown head gasket but reading other messages another reason could be oil cooler prob. Its a 2.6 V estate with 137k clocked.
All advice gratefully received !
Cheers,
Pete
Title: Re: Blown head gasket .. maybe ??
Post by: Elite Pete on 16 February 2011, 11:12:54
Its the oil cooler and not the head gaskets  ;)
Title: Re: Blown head gasket .. maybe ??
Post by: Pete-Mac on 16 February 2011, 12:07:09
Thanks Pete ... thats a £1000 load off me small brain !!
Just walked round to our local garage who quoted that amount but has said he,ll check with some okeycokey2000 machine thing !!!
Can I ask what make you sure its the oil cooler ?
Cheers,
Pete
Title: Re: Blown head gasket .. maybe ??
Post by: Andy B on 16 February 2011, 12:17:12
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Thanks Pete ... thats a £1000 load off me small brain !!
Just walked round to our local garage who quoted that amount but has said he,ll check with some okeycokey2000 machine thing !!!
Can I ask what make you sure its the oil cooler ?
Cheers,
Pete

Your next post should include phrases such as ....
How much Elite Pete? and when could you do it for me?  ::) ::) ;D
Title: Re: Blown head gasket .. maybe ??
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 February 2011, 12:18:56
one thing is sure, if you continue to drive sure you will have HG problem ;D :y

do you have misfires , engine not pulling properly ? (before you finish the oil)

if yes, have a compression test..


Title: Re: Blown head gasket .. maybe ??
Post by: Pete-Mac on 16 February 2011, 12:28:15
The proper question would be therefore .. Elite Pete .. are you VAT registered, because my warranty dictates this !!
Thats one for you to answer ;0)
The car hasnt and wont be driven til this is sorted out , but was driving perfectly well until last night.
My warranty covers up to £500 so if it it definately the oli cooler then its within finances..if its the head gaskets then even the £500 difference means a tough decision !!
Title: Re: Blown head gasket .. maybe ??
Post by: Andy B on 16 February 2011, 12:35:03
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The proper question would be therefore .. Elite Pete .. are you VAT registered, because my warranty dictates this !!
Thats one for you to answer ;0) ......

You've not had the car long then?
What has the supplying dealer/garage had to say?
Title: Re: Blown head gasket .. maybe ??
Post by: Pete-Mac on 16 February 2011, 12:58:37
Its not a garage warranty !
Its an AA add-on for vehicles over 100k mileage .. only @ £5 a month but pays out £500 max BUT for up to 6 claims a year ( sound like an AA slaesman !!)
Title: Re: Blown head gasket .. maybe ??
Post by: RobG on 16 February 2011, 13:09:26
Let`s hope they don`t use the old get out  adage "fair wear and tear"
Title: Re: Blown head gasket .. maybe ??
Post by: Andy B on 16 February 2011, 13:27:15
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Its not a garage warranty !
Its an AA add-on for vehicles over 100k mileage .. only @ £5 a month but pays out £500 max BUT for up to 6 claims a year ( sound like an AA slaesman !!)

I've very little experience of warrenties, but those I've read or heard about seem to be worth very little. There's often loads of get out clauses. Obviously up to you but I'd put the £5 a month in the bank and fix it myself or pay some one that knows what they're doing to fix it.  ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)
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Post by: Danny on 16 February 2011, 14:35:17
where do you stand with the warranty with regards to the forum suggesting oil cooler, and AA (who the warranty is with) diagnosing headgasket?

if they use this diagnosis, will they allow you to say "i want the oil cooler changing under the warranty please?"

will they allow that?
Title: Re: Blown head gasket .. maybe ??
Post by: Ken T on 16 February 2011, 22:22:11
I would be surprised if they could fit an oil cooler for under £500. I was taken by the AA to halfrauds autocentre where they relieved me of £170 for an exchange alternator, which took all of 15 mins to fit (3 bolts )  :-X

See how much over £500 the garage want, and see how much Pete will charge to do the job complete. You might be surprised. 

Don't forget he actually knows how to do the job, some garages ............

Ken
Title: Re: Blown head gasket .. maybe ??
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 17 February 2011, 12:30:15
They should do it for 500 quid easily.

200 for bits and 4 hours work including flushing

As for diagnosis of head gasket, if it was the AA that said that then they need to go back to school and learn engine basics....or maybe it explains why they are not fixing cars!

Title: Re: Blown head gasket .. maybe ??
Post by: Andy B on 17 February 2011, 12:42:15
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They should do it for 500 quid easily.

200 for bits and 4 hours work including flushing

As for diagnosis of head gasket, if it was the AA that said that then they need to go back to school and learn engine basics....or maybe it explains why they are not fixing cars!


4 hours at Merc is over £400 on its own. I'm not sure what my local Vauxhall charge but IIRC it's around £80/90 so that's going to be over £500  ;)
Title: Re: Blown head gasket .. maybe ??
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 17 February 2011, 12:53:52
My local Vx is 65 an hour (+Vat).

And a decent indy should not be much over 50 (+Vat) an hour.

So, should do it for 500.

Title: Re: Blown head gasket .. maybe ??
Post by: Andy B on 17 February 2011, 12:56:55
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My local Vx is 65 an hour (+Vat).

And a decent indy should not be much over 50 (+Vat) an hour.

So, should do it for 500.


an there lies the problem!  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Blown head gasket .. maybe ??
Post by: feeutfo on 17 February 2011, 18:10:20
IMO print the oil cooler guide off from maintenance and give it whoever does the work. Even vx. Let the warranty company worry over the bil, that's down to then.
Title: Re: Blown head gasket .. maybe ??
Post by: Pete-Mac on 18 March 2011, 10:48:14
This sad story has a happy ending !! Despite all you harbingers of doom saying warranties arent worth a cr~p .. heres one that is .. The AA Breakdown Repair Warranty costs me about £3 a month and has just sent me a cheque for £475 toward the repair .. it was the oil cooler, but also the rad had split and the contaminated water/oil mix had to be spooned out by hand so the labour was a little more than normal. The total cost was £725 . I waited about a week for the cheque ... good service ?   Damn right !!  The better news is , I can claim up to 6 times a year.
ANYONE WITH A 100K MILES PLUS CAR SHOULD CHECK IT OUT !!
Thanks to all who offerd advice ... gratefully accepted.
Title: Re: Blown head gasket .. maybe ??
Post by: albitz on 18 March 2011, 10:53:39
So you had to contribute £250 towards the repair ?
Title: Re: Blown head gasket .. maybe ??
Post by: The Red Baron on 18 March 2011, 10:54:14
a good result for you then. well done. :y