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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Vamps on 05 May 2011, 22:50:04
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I am planning on buying a 'Series' Landrover as a toy / winter use, I have had 3 previously, 2 being ex MOD so not scared off by 24 volts etc. :y :y
However, I just wondered if anyone had any experience of the good or bad points of the above mentioned cars are, they are more comfy and I get get an auto :-/
Still fancy the 'Series' though and throw a few mods on it and some big knobbly tyres..... :D :D
Not interested in a Range Rover...... :)
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vamps,
post this question on this forum,
SURREYOFFROADERS.COM
i am member on there and most of the guys on there will have all the info you need to give you a clue as to what you buy.
Mark or Will between them, can strip and rebuild those in nano secs. ;D
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Lol, well its well documented on my thoughts on land Rovers....there great off road and totaly shite on them! (plus I spend to much of my time having to fix and weld the dam things)
The Freelander I always found shite off and on road.
The Disco's were better but, lacked refinement on the road and were not so capable off, only seemed to make sense if you needed to pull heavy loads.
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Discovery and Range Rover are basically the same vehicle.
I have a Disco 1 which, if I was honest, I'd find difficult to do without. It spends pretty much all of it's time in fields, towing hay, cars, horses or full of Spaniels. Anmd I'm doing up a classic Range Rover, mainly because I prefer the looks.
They're thirsty, unreliable, painfully slow if you get a diesel, but have a great charm and can be fixed with the most basic of tool kits.
the key to driving manners is to give it a full suspension rebuild as soon as you get it, irrespective of the mileage.
oh yes, and parts are dead cheap.
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Discovery and Range Rover are basically the same vehicle.
I have a Disco 1 which, if I was honest, I'd find difficult to do without. It spends pretty much all of it's time in fields, towing hay, cars, horses or full of Spaniels. Anmd I'm doing up a classic Range Rover, mainly because I prefer the looks.
They're thirsty, unreliable, painfully slow if you get a diesel, but have a great charm and can be fixed with the most basic of tool kits.
......parts are dead cheap.
A perfect description if my Disco1. :y
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I have had a Disco 1 here for Breaking and nothing has hardly gone off it.... Mrs. Loo-knee has one and I must say not alot has gone wrong with it either, other than blanking off the EGR which took less than an hour.
She Loves her's
I still prefer the Range Rover though even though it goes wrong far more :D
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correct me here isn't the freelander a very unreliable wanabee disco for gays with a rover 75 engine ?? get a disco diesel proper 4x4,
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correct me here isn't the freelander a very unreliable wanabee disco for gays with a rover 75 engine ?? get a disco diesel proper 4x4,
:y :y :y
To be honest they are quiet a nice little car, something I would buy for my girls as I would feel safe with them in one.
The 1.8 engines are easy to work on as there is plenty of room, enough room in the back, smallish boot .... the mpg isn't great though..
As for an off roader I dont think thet are made for that
Just my view nothing more ;) ;)
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I have had a Disco 1 here for Breaking
details please ? - there's some stuff i might want
( like is it diesel or proper engine for instance )
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Disco is capable, though I and II rust like old rangies, III and IV too rather expensive ;D
Freelander isn't a bad car, but not built to do the work of defenders and discos. Decent reliable runners though, though 1.8 does need mls hg
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Discovery and Range Rover are basically the same vehicle.
I have a Disco 1 which, if I was honest, I'd find difficult to do without. It spends pretty much all of it's time in fields, towing hay, cars, horses or full of Spaniels. Anmd I'm doing up a classic Range Rover, mainly because I prefer the looks.
They're thirsty, unreliable, painfully slow if you get a diesel, but have a great charm and can be fixed with the most basic of tool kits.
......parts are dead cheap.
A perfect description if my Disco1. :y
So might as well get a Series LR then.... :D :D :D
Not run the idea passed swmbo yet ::) ::) need to start buying some Landrover Magazines and drop a few hints ;) ;)
Thanks for the comments guys, and Deb's..... :y :y
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with a series Land Rover, expect lower back damage within a few miles of home. They are just too stiffly sprung (remember leaf springs) and too slow to be anything other than a danger in modern traffic.
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Discovery and Range Rover are basically the same vehicle.
I have a Disco 1 which, if I was honest, I'd find difficult to do without. It spends pretty much all of it's time in fields, towing hay, cars, horses or full of Spaniels. Anmd I'm doing up a classic Range Rover, mainly because I prefer the looks.
They're thirsty, unreliable, painfully slow if you get a diesel, but have a great charm and can be fixed with the most basic of tool kits.
......parts are dead cheap.
A perfect description if my Disco1. :y
So might as well get a Series LR then.... :D :D :D
Not run the idea passed swmbo yet ::) ::) need to start buying some Landrover Magazines and drop a few hints ;) ;)
Thanks for the comments guys, and Deb's..... :y :y
Do what I done and made it look like it was costing a fortune in to keep replacing the running gear on the mig because of the pot holes in the roads and it would be cheaper to buy a disco that can handle our roads.
Mine has had the 2" lift kit larger intercooler(same size as rad) and polly bushed ::) :y
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I have had a Disco 1 here for Breaking and nothing has hardly gone off it.... Mrs. Loo-knee has one and I must say not alot has gone wrong with it either, other than blanking off the EGR which took less than an hour.
She Loves her's
I still prefer the Range Rover though even though it goes wrong far more :D
Replace the air bags with springs ;)
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Lol, well its well documented on my thoughts on land Rovers....there great off road and totaly shite on them! (plus I spend to much of my time having to fix and weld the dam things)
Ah yes, proper British made vehicles that come pre-loaded with a good dose of rust from the factory!
This was owned by a friend of mine:
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/224243_10150194378693081_531138080_6860402_4721873_n.jpg)
(Scrapped as beyond economical repair at that point - every body mounting point had rusted through more or less.. that and the 8 bent pushrods didn't help it's cause!)
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Never Ever buy a freelander without checking the viscous coupling in the rear prop, especially on the series 1. I talk from bitter experience.
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Lol, well its well documented on my thoughts on land Rovers....there great off road and totaly shite on them! (plus I spend to much of my time having to fix and weld the dam things)
Ah yes, proper British made vehicles that come pre-loaded with a good dose of rust from the factory!
This was owned by a friend of mine:
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/224243_10150194378693081_531138080_6860402_4721873_n.jpg)
(Scrapped as beyond economical repair at that point - every body mounting point had rusted through more or less.. that and the 8 bent pushrods didn't help it's cause!)
Don't know what that is ::) :-[ but it is not a Series which if I get my way I will get..... :y Currently in a quandary what to do about cars for me and swmbo.... ::) ::) ::)
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correct me here isn't the freelander a very unreliable wanabee disco for gays with a rover 75 engine ?? get a disco diesel proper 4x4,
:y :y :y
I take it you are referring to the 1.8 petrol unit.....
Which by all accounts is the only freelander to avoid.......
The diesels were fine, both the L series one from the 200/400/600 and the TD Landrover series
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Don't know what that is ::) :-[ but it is not a Series which if I get my way I will get..... :y Currently in a quandary what to do about cars for me and swmbo....
Actually.. not a clue which model it is myself either, as I'm not 'up' on LRs etc :) One of these, if it helps:
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/222910_10150197893193081_531138080_6896928_4929550_n.jpg)
Growing up in rural Yorkshire everyone had a LandRover of some description (Series, Disco, etc) .. always kinda fancied one myself, at least a 'proper' LR would be good fun in the snow ;D
(As you can tell by the tyres on the one towing the trailer, they actually use these things for their intended purpose - up to the frame rails in mud every weekend ;D)
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" Fun and winter use " was the original criteria.
If that includes serious off roading go for a Discovery but DON'T write off the Freelander as too many do.
I listened to people badmouth them at the least opportunity but I've had one for 8 years now and it's no better or worse than any car on this site and others.
It's a 1,8 petrol and yes it's had the HG done as a preventative measure ( properly with all correct upgrades ) but how many Omegas on here have had theirs done too ( and I bet it's a lot easier to do than a X30XE ) The MLS gasket is definatly a success and fitted correctly with other advised mods gives the car a much better reliabilty record.
VCU changed at 70 K which is the rule of thumb on them .
My wife drives has driven down a 3 mile rough quarry road to work in it 5 days a week for 4 years and it has only required drop links , ARB and diff bushes ( so's my Omega ) .Her boss also uses the road in his Touareg and Audi 4x4 and those have had much more extensive suspension overhauls in their time than the FL.
We live at the top of a VERY steep tarmac road and then up another steep gravel drive and right through the winters snow and ice it just trundles up , and down , every time it's asked to. We also live in the mountains down here in Kerry and it has often been driven over and up muddy fields ,farm tracks and stoney sea shores and never got stuck or given us cause for concern .
The wee car is still immaculate with no rattles or broken parts due to it's harsh life .
And don't think the diesel version is immune to problems there are more threads for them than K series on the three main LR forums.
So it depends what you want from a LR but don't be told the FL is rubbish .....
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i love my bighorn :-*,but i loved my disco 1 when i had it even though i was always doing somat to it but this isuzu is a different ball game
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Don't be a freelander :y
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Lol, well its well documented on my thoughts on land Rovers....there great off road and totaly shite on them! (plus I spend to much of my time having to fix and weld the dam things)
Ah yes, proper British made vehicles that come pre-loaded with a good dose of rust from the factory!
This was owned by a friend of mine:
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/224243_10150194378693081_531138080_6860402_4721873_n.jpg)
(Scrapped as beyond economical repair at that point - every body mounting point had rusted through more or less.. that and the 8 bent pushrods didn't help it's cause!)
a weekends welding its soon sorted. ;D
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I used to have a Defender 90 (H plate). Was absolutely brilliant off road and took the hammering of a lifetime but just kept going. Shite on-raod though.
My cousin has the Mk II (I think it is) Freelander - diesel version and it does surprisingly well off-road and is pretty good on it.
My uncle has had a few Discos and apart from the rust issue they were pretty good off-road and OK on it.
A mate's doing up a series III at the moment. Parts are cheap as chips. Seems pretty bullet-proof. Negative-earth which caused me to rethink a bit trying to get the wiring back on but it seems to run OK if a bit basic. Wouldn't want to drive far in it!
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A mate at work has a freelander he got it brand new and he likes it...I think but from the stuff he has told me i would'ent have one cold in the winter unless it has the extra heater which you have to buy and then it use's more diesel trying to warm it up....and if you don't have one you have to scrap the inside of the window as well as the outside i could go on but i wont.
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I used to have a Defender 90 (H plate). Was absolutely brilliant off road and took the hammering of a lifetime but just kept going. Shite on-raod though.
My cousin has the Mk II (I think it is) Freelander - diesel version and it does surprisingly well off-road and is pretty good on it.
My uncle has had a few Discos and apart from the rust issue they were pretty good off-road and OK on it.
A mate's doing up a series III at the moment. Parts are cheap as chips. Seems pretty bullet-proof. Negative-earth which caused me to rethink a bit trying to get the wiring back on but it seems to run OK if a bit basic. Wouldn't want to drive far in it![/quote]
Thanks for that, would not be driving it very far, just a toy... :y I used to regularly drive up and down from Durham to Hertfordshire in a LWB Series 3 ex MOD FFR...I was a little younger then though..... :D :D :D