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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Jim on 04 June 2011, 14:18:59
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Well yesterday afternoon before I left work I thought I would give the car an Oil & Filter change, so I drove the car over the pit in the workshops dropped the oil from the sump and started to take off the oil filter, anyway it was stuck on solid so I gave it a little pressure with a bar attached to the rachet and ended up cracking the casing for the filter, so as it was 5pm I had to wait until today to get a new casing £24.00 inc VAT from a dealer, its the first time I've done an oil change on my 3.2 but it needed it, the old filter was also fitted wrong as you can see from the pictures below, but it all sorted now :y
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Yup, definitely neglected. What was the service history like, full Vauxhall? :P
*Awaits replys saying you should have taken the opportunity to convert to the spin on type filter, and to check and clean the breathers*
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Yup, definitely neglected. What was the service history like, full Vauxhall? :P
*Awaits replys saying you should have taken the opportunity to convert to the spin on type filter, and to check and clean the breathers*
That was my first thought but they didn't have the part in stock so had to take a new cap :y
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That oil filter looks exactly like the one that came off the 3.2 sat on my drive, which is seized solid. You might have had a lucky escape there Jim. ;)
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Looks like somebody has (erroneously) used a 3/8ths rachet directly on the cap, rather than a 24mm socket ;)
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Looks like somebody has (erroneously) used a 3/8ths rachet directly on the cap, rather than a 24mm socket ;)
My thoughts too. :y
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the old filter was also fitted wrong as you can see from the pictures below, but it all sorted now :y ....
was it? :-/ Can't tell from the pictures, but it clips into the ally cap.
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Looks like somebody has (erroneously)used a 3/8ths rachet directly on the cap, rather than a 24mm socket ;)
Maybe ::)!!!!!!!
But I thought that was what you where suppose to use :)
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That oil filter looks exactly like the one that came off the 3.2 sat on my drive, which is seized solid. You might have had a lucky escape there Jim. ;)
I managed to tap it with a chisel and hammer to start it turning.
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the old filter was also fitted wrong as you can see from the pictures below, but it all sorted now :y ....
was it? :-/ Can't tell from the pictures, but it clips into the ally cap.
I know but it wasn't, as you can see by the picture the old filter was crushed some how!!
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Looks like somebody has (erroneously)used a 3/8ths rachet directly on the cap, rather than a 24mm socket ;)
Maybe ::)!!!!!!!
But I thought that was what you where suppose to use :)
I have used the 3/8" square drive in the middle of mine, but you're better off using the 24mm hex. As seen on your new cap, GM have removed the option ;)
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the old filter was also fitted wrong as you can see from the pictures below, but it all sorted now :y ....
was it? :-/ Can't tell from the pictures, but it clips into the ally cap.
I know but it wasn't, as you can see by the picture the old filter was crushed some how!!
I assume the oil flows through the middle & outwards, so when the filter blocks, it gets pushed off the clips & the oil forces the filter to the end of the housing.
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I assume the oil flows through the middle & outwards, so when the filter blocks, it gets pushed off the clips & the oil forces the filter to the end of the housing.
Oil always flows from the outside of a filter into the centre so either it clogged and the pressure crushed it or it wasn't properly on when the lid was tightened overtightened and it got crushed then.
To be honest, once they are being changed regularly and correctly torqued, the paper filters are no bother at all. No need to change to cartridge, IMHO.
Kevin
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.... so either it clogged and the pressure crushed it or ....
That sounds good to me ...... :y
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To be honest, once they are being changed regularly and correctly torqued, the paper filters are no bother at all. No need to change to cartridge, IMHO.
Kevin
Agreed ;)
But I didn't use my torque wrench when I did mine Thursday, maybe I'll be struck down ::) :y
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I assume the oil flows through the middle & outwards, so when the filter blocks, it gets pushed off the clips & the oil forces the filter to the end of the housing.
Oil always flows from the outside of a filter into the centre so either it clogged and the pressure crushed it or it wasn't properly on when the lid was tightened overtightened and it got crushed then.
To be honest, once they are being changed regularly and correctly torqued, the paper filters are no bother at all. No need to change to cartridge, IMHO.
Kevin
Agreed - and best to use a HEXAGON (as opposed to bi-hexagon) type socket Jim :y
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I assume the oil flows through the middle & outwards, so when the filter blocks, it gets pushed off the clips & the oil forces the filter to the end of the housing.
Oil always flows from the outside of a filter into the centre so either it clogged and the pressure crushed it or it wasn't properly on when the lid was tightened overtightened and it got crushed then.
To be honest, once they are being changed regularly and correctly torqued, the paper filters are no bother at all. No need to change to cartridge, IMHO.
Kevin
Agreed - and best to use a HEXAGON (as opposed to bi-hexagon) type socket Jim :y
and what about a bi-hex combination spanner? ::) ;) ;)
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To be honest, once they are being changed regularly and correctly torqued, the paper filters are no bother at all. No need to change to cartridge, IMHO.
Kevin
Agreed ;)
But I didn't use my torque wrench when I did mine Thursday, maybe I'll be struck down ::) :y
You and I both know that it needs to be (just) tight enough to seal, and can get the feel for when the seal is made. Its not one I use a torque wrench on (unlike most other engine jobs, where I absolutely do).
But we both know that the world is full of people, and to use a quote from one of my old bosses, "who isn't a big a **** as he thought he is", and will do it to 10,000,000 Nm, and that he has worked on loads of cars and is a Vx trained mechanic etc etc. "Warped cam covers" spring to mind ;)
These caps just need the tiniest nip.
I think part of the issue with these being overtightened isn't so much poor fitting though... ...I think over time they tend to stick, and with 20k servicing (low milers seen to ignore the 2yr part!), it gives it plenty of time to stick solid.
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.... Its not one I use a torque wrench on ....
20 Hail Marys as penance! ;D ;D ;D
(not that I believe ............. ::) )
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.... Its not one I use a torque wrench on ....
20 Hail Marys as penance! ;D ;D ;D
(not that I believe ............. ::) )
Only 20 :o, if thats the maximum punishment, I'll get a breaker bar on the cam covers ;D
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Only 20 :o, if thats the maximum punishment, I'll get a breaker bar on the cam covers ;D
I just picked a number. No idea if 20 is a lot or not! ;D ;D ;D My Dad was the left footer (not me) excommunicated (sp?) in 1961 for marrying a Methodist! :-? :-? :-?
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My Dad was the left footer (not me) excommunicated (sp?) in 1961 for marrying a Methodist! :-? :-? :-?
My mum was disowned for marrying a Yok (derogatory term for a non Jew), but madly enough we (the children) are accepted :-?
As per TheBoy though, I only ever tweak the oil filter just enough for it to get a seal because it will tighten itself over time anyway.
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Aye, I've just tweaked the new cap on, hopefully when I do the next oil change it won't be stuck on :)