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Title: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 20 July 2011, 21:33:16
Just sorting out the loom. The numbers on the piggy back connectors, and the corresponding ones on the gas injector connections are missing. The wiring diag shows colours for P1 to P8 for petrol injectors, and L1 to L 8 for the lpg ones. So presumably, P1, which is yellow/black and yellow, corresponds to L1, which is blue/red and grey/yellow, then so on for all the others?

I cant test with a multimeter, as the gas ones wont routinely get a pulse unless it thinks it should be firing the LPG injectors...

many thanks :y
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: Ken T on 20 July 2011, 21:37:37
Och, just plug them in, and if it doesn't work swap a few around. You have only got 6! possible combinations to try.

Ken
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: Lazydocker on 20 July 2011, 21:58:01
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Och, just plug them in, and if it doesn't work swap a few around. You have only got 6! possible combinations to try.

Ken

Actually 36 combinations (as the piggybacks are easy enough to pair up ;))

James... You'll just have to trust them, bearing in mind the usual bit of 1,2,3 being 1,3,5 etc
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 20 July 2011, 22:02:36
you mean trust the wiring colours?
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: Lazydocker on 20 July 2011, 22:13:10
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you mean trust the wiring colours?

Yep. There is method to them IIRC, but I haven't got a wiring diagram to hand.

Which reminds me... I must modify the loom for johnnycboy's conversion ::) ::)
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 20 July 2011, 22:14:36
modify the loom? Do tell!
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: Lazydocker on 20 July 2011, 22:21:18
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modify the loom? Do tell!
Keep up... Been covered several times :-X :-X ::) ::) ;D ;D

Chop off all the piggyback connectors and graft in standard Vx injector plug and socket (big one) with some cable extension so fewer wires running up to the plenum :y :y

Makes it extremely neat but only worth doing if you have some spare time ;) ;)
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: Ken T on 20 July 2011, 22:22:06
What's the current price for the stag front end kit ?. I've just been sitting on the M62 watching the fuel gauge go down  :'(

Ken
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: Lazydocker on 20 July 2011, 22:24:23
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What's the current price for the stag front end kit ?. I've just been sitting on the M62 watching the fuel gauge go down  :'(

Ken

Put it this way... I converted my estate with a toroidal tank (plus all the bits for raising the floor etc) and inspected for under £850 :y :y
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: Ken T on 20 July 2011, 22:35:19
Not bad....

However that's more than I paid for the new car, and when you add in Pinky's potential bill ( he now charges for  bacon butties  :'( ) its heading for twice the cost of the car.


Ken



Tip for buying a Mig V6. Wait until the school holidays are due, and you will see lots of cars with 80000 miles, cause the garage says it needs the cam belt change which costs a lot, so people quickly trade them in for what ever they can get.
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 20 July 2011, 22:42:27
any documentation, eg instructions, on this wiring mod?
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: Lazydocker on 20 July 2011, 22:51:45
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any documentation, eg instructions, on this wiring mod?
Nope, as not really recommended because it will void the warranty on the loom ;)
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: Lazydocker on 20 July 2011, 22:53:30
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Not bad....

However that's more than I paid for the new car, and when you add in Pinky's potential bill ( he now charges for  bacon butties  :'( ) its heading for twice the cost of the car.


Ken



Tip for buying a Mig V6. Wait until the school holidays are due, and you will see lots of cars with 80000 miles, cause the garage says it needs the cam belt change which costs a lot, so people quickly trade them in for what ever they can get.
That may be the case, but if you plan to do more thank 10k in your ownership of the car it will more than pay for itself in the savings ;)
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: albitz on 20 July 2011, 22:54:38
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you mean trust the wiring colours?

Yep. There is method to them IIRC, but I haven't got a wiring diagram to hand.

Which reminds me... I must modify the loom for johnnycboy's conversion ::) ::)
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Dont forget your raincoat if your doing it this weekend. ;) ::)
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: TheBoy on 20 July 2011, 22:58:54
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you mean trust the wiring colours?

Yep. There is method to them IIRC, but I haven't got a wiring diagram to hand.

Which reminds me... I must modify the loom for johnnycboy's conversion ::) ::)
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Dont forget your raincoat if your doing it this weekend. ;) ::)
This weekend :o. Where/Why/When :o
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: Kevin Wood on 20 July 2011, 23:22:53
There is a wiring diagram complete with the pinouts for the ECU itself on the AC web site. You can buzz the connections right back to the ECU pins to double check it and then realise the misfire is down to a squashed pipe.

In my experience, the colour coding in the loom is correct, though.

Kevin
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: Ken T on 20 July 2011, 23:25:41
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Not bad....

However that's more than I paid for the new car, and when you add in Pinky's potential bill ( he now charges for  bacon butties  :'( ) its heading for twice the cost of the car.


Ken



Tip for buying a Mig V6. Wait until the school holidays are due, and you will see lots of cars with 80000 miles, cause the garage says it needs the cam belt change which costs a lot, so people quickly trade them in for what ever they can get.
That may be the case, but if you plan to do more thank 10k in your ownership of the car it will more than pay for itself in the savings ;)

I think my current 30K/PA will pay off quite quickly  :-X

Ken
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: feeutfo on 21 July 2011, 01:07:28
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There is a wiring diagram complete with the pinouts for the ECU itself on the AC web site. You can buzz the connections right back to the ECU pins to double check it and then realise the misfire is down to a squashed pipe.

In my experience, the colour coding in the loom is correct, though.

Kevin
:-[  :-X  ::)
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: albitz on 21 July 2011, 02:20:03
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you mean trust the wiring colours?

Yep. There is method to them IIRC, but I haven't got a wiring diagram to hand.

Which reminds me... I must modify the loom for johnnycboy's conversion ::) ::)
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Dont forget your raincoat if your doing it this weekend. ;) ::)
This weekend :o. Where/Why/When :o
Afaik theres an LPG install planned at JCB,s this weekend. :-/
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: Lazydocker on 21 July 2011, 10:17:17
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you mean trust the wiring colours?

Yep. There is method to them IIRC, but I haven't got a wiring diagram to hand.

Which reminds me... I must modify the loom for johnnycboy's conversion ::) ::)
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Dont forget your raincoat if your doing it this weekend. ;) ::)
This weekend :o. Where/Why/When :o
Afaik theres an LPG install planned at JCB,s this weekend. :-/

There is indeed... We thought you were busy though TB? ::)

Forecast doesn't actually seem too bad though. It's only a front end and pipework fitting, plus all the wiring, as he's already got the tank in :y :y
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: albitz on 21 July 2011, 11:29:00
Might pop own and take the piss say hello between shifts, if its dry and I can drag myself out of bed. :)
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 21 July 2011, 12:24:18
I will also be completing my install this weekend, only, I'm a billy no mates, so it's a single handed job  :-[
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 21 July 2011, 12:31:41
The stag installation diagram shows a wire being cut on each petrol injector?

Presumably this doesn't have to be physically cut - as the piggyback loom does this job for you?
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: Lazydocker on 21 July 2011, 13:30:20
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The stag installation diagram shows a wire being cut on each petrol injector?

Presumably this doesn't have to be physically cut - as the piggyback loom does this job for you?

Yep... Piggyback does all that :y :y
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 21 July 2011, 13:36:02
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The stag installation diagram shows a wire being cut on each petrol injector?

Presumably this doesn't have to be physically cut - as the piggyback loom does this job for you?

Yep... Piggyback does all that :y :y

Cheers, LD :y :y
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: feeutfo on 21 July 2011, 19:07:03
Diag is proven correct several times. Kev checked it for me a couple months ago. ;)
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: TheBoy on 21 July 2011, 19:08:20
Wiring diag is bang on. If it wasn't, loads of us would be up a smelly inlet, oarless.
Title: Re: I hope the stag wiring diagram is correct!!
Post by: Lazydocker on 21 July 2011, 19:16:06
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Wiring diag is bang on. If it wasn't, loads of us would be up a smelly inlet, oarless.

Indeed... Only mistake I have ever found (once) was that the little clips were switched and one was missing once, but the actual coloured wiring was spot on :y :y

Another LPG loom modified today ;) ;)