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Title: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 May 2011, 19:14:18
last week , as the daily run car has many stone chips, door dings, dents and some unmatching colors decided to repair all those..so started the trouble..

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clgon1.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clgon2.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clgon3.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clgon4.jpg)
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 May 2011, 19:16:57
painters were busy and I took the chance of paying less :) so I did the block sanding and clearing the old paint myself..unfortunately there were some small surprises  ;D

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clgon5.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clgon6.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clgon7.jpg)
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 May 2011, 19:18:42
and some random shots from around
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clgon8.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clgon9.jpg)

red ford xr, which was bought newly for a cheapo price..

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clgon10.jpg)

Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 May 2011, 19:24:52
sanding goes on
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clgon12.jpg)

back to body work (dings which were not discovered before)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clgon13.jpg)

after
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clgon14.jpg)

other side
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clgon15.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clgon16.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clgon17.jpg)

also hood completely cleaned with solver and sanded for epoxy..

the reason we didint use solver on all surfaces was to keep the original primer on paint and remove all old repairs and paints.. but really tedious and long job..

after the sandng is complete repaired areas will be covered with some tiny sheet of bondo , later drying for some days then epoxy cover and again drying period :-/
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: hercules on 14 May 2011, 22:49:41
tbh cem i dont think anyone in britain would go to all the effort to get rid of a few dings on a clit but hats off to you on doing it right :y
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 May 2011, 23:35:37
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tbh cem i dont think anyone in britain would go to all the effort to get rid of a few dings on a clit but hats off to you on doing it right :y

 ;D ;D nor here ;D 

problem is I'm a paint maniac and I hate dings or unmatching colors on any car I use  ;D

and I dont have that sort of  money to buy brand new...  and I doubt I will even if I had.. :-/
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: Ken T on 15 May 2011, 12:31:44
You are taking a lot of care in prep, it should look good when done.  :y

How much is it costing ?. It would be interesting to compare to UK prices. Perhaps I should come over for a holiday and get the car painted while I'm there !. Mind you that would be a very long way to go for a respray .

Ken
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 May 2011, 13:15:08
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You are taking a lot of care in prep, it should look good when done.  :y

How much is it costing ?. It would be interesting to compare to UK prices. Perhaps I should come over for a holiday and get the car painted while I'm there !. Mind you that would be a very long way to go for a respray .

Ken

approx 600 £..  nearly half of the cost is the expensive ppg epoxy and Standocryl 2K platinum lack (high scratch resistance).. cost is a bit low as I did most of the job .. instead I spend more for primer and lack..( I estimate  their prices to be 1/3 in UK so you need to bring them here)

normally a complete metallic paint (whole car) costs 900 £ here including dismantling the parts and  good quality stuff.. (but not with the most expensive primers and lack)

most painters here try to avoid block sanding until primer as it takes very long time..instead they use machine sanders or use solver..which I didnt accept.. the workers doing my job are friends so they dont want much..

next year I'm planning to paint omega .. but still I dont know how I will sand whole car as its so big.. :-/

ps: if you want to paint here , I can help
pps: you will need a month here at the minimum for a quality job.. or leave the car here for me and come back again if you dont have time..
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: Ken T on 15 May 2011, 13:47:07
Hmm that's a very good price.  :y

Anyone fancy an Ankara respray meet ?.  ;D ;D ;D

Ken
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 May 2011, 13:51:32
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Hmm that's a very good price.  :y

Anyone fancy an Ankara respray meet ?.  ;D ;D ;D

Ken

if you come in july or august be prepared for 45 celcius  ;D
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 15 May 2011, 14:14:44
An interesting thread with great pictures cem, I'll look forward to seeing the finished job. 8-) :y
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: dbug on 15 May 2011, 14:31:06
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You are taking a lot of care in prep, it should look good when done.  :y

How much is it costing ?. It would be interesting to compare to UK prices. Perhaps I should come over for a holiday and get the car painted while I'm there !. Mind you that would be a very long way to go for a respray .

Ken

approx 600 £..  nearly half of the cost is the expensive ppg epoxy and Standocryl 2K platinum lack (high scratch resistance).. cost is a bit low as I did most of the job .. instead I spend more for primer and lack..( I estimate  their prices to be 1/3 in UK so you need to bring them here)

normally a complete metallic paint (whole car) costs 900 £ here including dismantling the parts and  good quality stuff.. (but not with the most expensive primers and lack)

most painters here try to avoid block sanding until primer as it takes very long time..instead they use machine sanders or use solver..which I didnt accept.. the workers doing my job are friends so they dont want much..

next year I'm planning to paint omega .. but still I dont know how I will sand whole car as its so big.. :-/

ps: if you want to paint here , I can help
pps: you will need a month here at the minimum for a quality job.. or leave the car here for me and come back again if you dont have time..

Big block and large sheets of wet 'n dry ?  ;)
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 May 2011, 15:17:05
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An interesting thread with great pictures cem, I'll look forward to seeing the finished job. 8-) :y

thanks Den..will post phases as we finish.. :y
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 May 2011, 15:22:28
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You are taking a lot of care in prep, it should look good when done.  :y

How much is it costing ?. It would be interesting to compare to UK prices. Perhaps I should come over for a holiday and get the car painted while I'm there !. Mind you that would be a very long way to go for a respray .

Ken

approx 600 £..  nearly half of the cost is the expensive ppg epoxy and Standocryl 2K platinum lack (high scratch resistance).. cost is a bit low as I did most of the job .. instead I spend more for primer and lack..( I estimate  their prices to be 1/3 in UK so you need to bring them here)

normally a complete metallic paint (whole car) costs 900 £ here including dismantling the parts and  good quality stuff.. (but not with the most expensive primers and lack)

most painters here try to avoid block sanding until primer as it takes very long time..instead they use machine sanders or use solver..which I didnt accept.. the workers doing my job are friends so they dont want much..

next year I'm planning to paint omega .. but still I dont know how I will sand whole car as its so big.. :-/

ps: if you want to paint here , I can help
pps: you will need a month here at the minimum for a quality job.. or leave the car here for me and come back again if you dont have time..

Big block and large sheets of wet 'n dry ?  ;)

problem is the first time omega was painted, the painter did it in old fashion.. there  is more than 9 layers of lack (I'm scared to say the paint layers)  ;D according to my calculations I need more than 45 days only for sanding :-/ 

the reason I want to paint is similiar to clit, some dings here and there and stone chips..

ps: although I can take most scratches some go deep in paint  :(
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 May 2011, 15:45:43
although not visible in pictures the paint become old in 6 years  :-/ (pictures are from 5 mp mobile camera)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omegalat2.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omegalat1.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omegalat3.jpg)
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 21 May 2011, 21:05:27
now surface filling with bondo , drying period and sanding 3-4 days
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/ph2no1.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/ph2no2.jpg)
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 21 May 2011, 21:07:21
other parts completely cleaned from paint


(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/ph2no3.jpg)

and hood must be scratched deeply for primer

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/ph2no33.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/ph2no4.jpg)
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 21 May 2011, 21:10:08
after masking ,cleaning the surfacs for primer

we waited for 3 days as the weather was rainy (high humidity)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/ph2no5.jpg)

and applying epoxy primer
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/ph2no6.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/ph2no7.jpg)
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 21 May 2011, 21:13:07
and surfaces after
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/ph2no8.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/ph2no9.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/ph2no10.jpg)

we need to wait at least 24 hours but probably actual time will be longer.. then sanding the surface  (primer surface 4 layers of coating ) is necessary >:(

this car probably will stay another 10 days >:( >:(

Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 21 May 2011, 21:14:54
and some other repaired cars

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/sot1.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/sot2.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/sot3.jpg)
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 21 May 2011, 22:26:03
More great pictures cem. 8-) 8-) :y
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: aaronjb on 21 May 2011, 22:27:48
Crikey.. no breathing apparatus, not even a mask?  :o
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 21 May 2011, 22:44:08
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More great pictures cem. 8-) 8-) :y

thanks Den :y
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 21 May 2011, 22:47:42
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Crikey.. no breathing apparatus, not even a mask?  :o

epoxy is nearly the most poisinous substance in paint chemicals (what he was painting) .. I told/warned them a million times..  they said they cant paint freely with it..  :(

in the past I worked in the painting area/oven (dont know the name) like them.. and had real problem for few days.. (head turning, vomitting) .. but doesnt seem to effect them :o
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: aaronjb on 21 May 2011, 22:55:36
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Crikey.. no breathing apparatus, not even a mask?  :o

epoxy is nearly the most poisinous substance in paint chemicals (what he was painting) .. I told/warned them a million times..  they said they cant paint freely with it..  :(

in the past I worked in the painting area/oven (dont know the name) like them.. and had real problem for few days.. (head turning, vomitting) .. but doesnt seem to effect them :o

Yeah - madness.. though I imagine the epoxy is a pussycat compared to the isocyanates in the 2K paint; that stuff will 'soak in' to you through every available bit of skin and really make you ill, and one dose of exposure gives raised sensitivity for future exposure/respiratory problems/death.. (Assuming the epoxy primer - I'm not familiar with it - doesn't also contain isocyanates.. if it does then they are quite, quite mad and probably heading for an early grave!)


Car looks good, though!
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 21 May 2011, 22:58:22
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Crikey.. no breathing apparatus, not even a mask?  :o

epoxy is nearly the most poisinous substance in paint chemicals (what he was painting) .. I told/warned them a million times..  they said they cant paint freely with it..  :(

in the past I worked in the painting area/oven (dont know the name) like them.. and had real problem for few days.. (head turning, vomitting) .. but doesnt seem to effect them :o

Yeah - madness.. though I imagine the epoxy is a pussycat compared to the isocyanates in the 2K paint; that stuff will 'soak in' to you through every available bit of skin and really make you ill, and one dose of exposure gives raised sensitivity for future exposure/respiratory problems/death.. (Assuming the epoxy primer - I'm not familiar with it - doesn't also contain isocyanates.. if it does then they are quite, quite mad and probably heading for an early grave!)


Car looks good, though!

as far as I know contain isocyanates :( :(

thanks Aaronjb :y
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: aaronjb on 21 May 2011, 23:31:58
Hats off to you block sanding it down to bare metal, too .. I don't think I'd have the patience! :)
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 22 May 2011, 07:52:55
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Hats off to you block sanding it down to bare metal, too .. I don't think I'd have the patience! :)

thanks.. but I have lost my fingerprints, so police cant catch me anymore ;D and must admit it also tested my patience to the limit :-/
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 31 May 2011, 20:01:26
now the story goes on..

wet sanding epoxy with 320.. also fenders all paint removed (wet sanding with 220 then 400-plastic surface)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/CLGON18.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/CLGON19.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/CLGON20.jpg)
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 31 May 2011, 20:04:19
and the observed surface errors are covered again..

waited few days for them to dry completely as it was too rainy >:( >:( >:(

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/CLGON21.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/CLGON22.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/CLGON23.jpg)

all dry sanded with 220 then 400..

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/CLGON27.jpg)

and I hurt myself now cant move :( :(

because I was in hurry  >:(
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 31 May 2011, 20:07:04
plastic primer applied..
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/CLGON25.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/CLGON24.jpg)

and last stage epoxy
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/CLGON26.jpg)

now need to wait a few days and continue with wet 800.. I will see if I can.. :-/
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: aaronjb on 31 May 2011, 20:39:21
I think you should have stuck with the Fresian Cow look, Cem ;)
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 31 May 2011, 20:57:07
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I think you should have stuck with the Fresian Cow look, Cem ;)

you mean Freisian cow :P
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: aaronjb on 31 May 2011, 20:59:41
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I think you should have stuck with the Fresian Cow look, Cem ;)

you mean Freisian cow :P

I was close.. I must get 50% credit for that? ;D
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 31 May 2011, 21:06:15
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I think you should have stuck with the Fresian Cow look, Cem ;)

you mean Freisian cow :P

I was close.. I must get 50% credit for that? ;D

nah.. I spell wrong too.. friesian >:(
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: Lazydocker on 31 May 2011, 21:12:19
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I think you should have stuck with the Fresian Cow look, Cem ;)

you mean Freisian cow :P

I was close.. I must get 50% credit for that? ;D

nah.. I spell wrong too.. friesian >:(

But you did know to put the i in and English isn't even your native language :y :y :y
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 31 May 2011, 21:25:21
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I think you should have stuck with the Fresian Cow look, Cem ;)

you mean Freisian cow :P

I was close.. I must get 50% credit for that? ;D

nah.. I spell wrong too.. friesian >:(

But you did know to put the i in and English isn't even your native language :y :y :y

thanks Lazydocker :y
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: Andy B on 31 May 2011, 21:29:21
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nah.. I spell wrong too.. friesian >:(

I before E except after C ............. most of the time.  :y :y
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 31 May 2011, 21:41:03
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nah.. I spell wrong too.. friesian >:(

I before E except after C ............. most of the time.  :y :y

yep..but sometimes brain stops :-/
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 31 May 2011, 23:36:03
There is some impressive work being done here cem 8-)I'll look forward to seeing the finished result. :y
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 01 June 2011, 08:32:50
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There is some impressive work being done here cem 8-)I'll look forward to seeing the finished result. :y

I'll post all stages Den..Thanks for your interest  :y :y
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 01 June 2011, 08:49:01
for those interested , bondo was glasurit 839-20..

although its a quick drying type , we experienced its necessary to wait at least 48 hrs .. and must say it may change depending on the climate..

and must be sanded dry if you dont want to wait extra period..

paint applied on wet bondo causes disaster after some time.. :(

ps: probably most of you know, bondo must be used in minimal amounts and as thin as possible..
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 11 June 2011, 14:00:06
after epoxy coats and surface corrections are made,
here are the other stages we have passed..

bumper also cleaned from all paint
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clitboya/bumper1.jpg)

then for same color base epoxy applied
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clitboya/bumper2.jpg)

and sanded with 400-800 wet
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clitboya/bumper800.jpg)

and mirror covers
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clitboya/mirrorcovers.jpg)
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 11 June 2011, 14:02:05
surface sanded with 400-800-1200 wet after epoxy dried (3-4 days)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clitboya/right1200.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clitboya/left1200.jpg)
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 11 June 2011, 14:06:21
now colored base coat applied (5 layers, will be sanded with 1200 again).. color tone is lighter than the original color code but thats necessary for the final color not to be darker.. (we added some white  color.. 400 grs to 2 kg original 632 code..)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clitboya/bumpercolorcoat.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clitboya/colorcoatfront.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clitboya/leftcolorcoat.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clitboya/rightcolorcoat.jpg)
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 11 June 2011, 14:09:49
Yes, it's easy to see the worth in thorough preparation cem - looking good. 8-) :y
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 11 June 2011, 14:16:40
after all we prepared another seperate door (from a friends body repair shop) for color matching trials.. surface cleaned completely with solver.. sanded with 80 ..2 layers of epoxy applied.. now is in drying period.. after color coat will be applied .. and we will test the final color mixture with laquer..

I searched for that device
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/clitboya/cm512m3_pict002.jpg)

(info here
http://www.konicaminolta.com/instruments/products/color-measurement/spectrophotometer/cm512m3/index.html
)

but its too expensive  :( and is available only in 2 services (toyota service) here.. so borrowing is not logical as we will need it many times.. so back to traditional trial error method >:(

when you buy this also you need a software to arrange mixture proportions.. and also a glossmeter etc etc.. :-/
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 11 June 2011, 14:18:23
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Yes, it's easy to see the worth in thorough preparation cem - looking good. 8-) :y

Thanks Den :y :y
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: smithpa7 on 11 June 2011, 21:30:23
Cem, your dedication to producing a perfect finish is to be applauded :y :y

Please keep posting photographs of all the stages :y
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 11 June 2011, 21:46:42
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Cem, your dedication to producing a perfect finish is to be applauded :y :y

Please keep posting photographs of all the stages :y

Thanks for your interest Zombie :y
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: Andy B on 11 June 2011, 21:54:07
looking great Cem!  :y :y :y
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 11 June 2011, 22:03:42
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looking great Cem!  :y :y :y

thanks Andy :y :y :y
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: Andy B on 11 June 2011, 22:09:19
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looking great Cem!  :y :y :y

thanks Andy :y :y :y

Apart from the knocks & scrapes cars pick up in general use, salt from the roads during the winter is the biggest problem we have in this country. Cars will rust, but rust even better in salty water.  :'( :'(
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 11 June 2011, 22:15:23
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looking great Cem!  :y :y :y

thanks Andy :y :y :y

Apart from the knocks & scrapes cars pick up in general use, salt from the roads during the winter is the biggest problem we have in this country. Cars will rust, but rust even better in salty water.  :'( :'(

best method is to use epoxy under the car (its used in ships for water isolation) ( at least 4 layers or more.. and you will need a lift.. downside is epoxy is expensive , dries late and its poisonous..

but after you can work even with hammer and epoxy will stay :)
Title: Re: work for the last week (heavy pics mobile warning)
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 June 2011, 20:53:13
after countless/numerous color trials on test panels/cards as seen below (including original laquer which will be used)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/ddayclit/colortrials.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/ddayclit/colortrials2.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/ddayclit/colortrials3.jpg)

which cost more than a week and some money, we ended up with a 99.9.. matching color ;D

as the original color mix by standox was a disaster >:( (too dark) started with 100 gr test portions (few trials), dropped the black (17 gr)  and blue color (1.9 gr)  to half amounts  .. then prepared 2 kg solution and mixed extra 25 gr white, 3 gr red (which was not in formula) and 8 gr yellow and additional 0.5 gr blue..

these are incremented slowly by paintshop.. tested on cards then panel..all tests are done on sunny times from different angles.. so no sun no test :(
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 June 2011, 20:55:26
and after reaching the final color , the last day before painting we sanded the car starting with 1200 after 1500 grid..

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/ddayclit/sandedbasecoat2.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/ddayclit/sandedbasecoat.jpg)
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 June 2011, 20:58:23
and DDAY.. after 40 days of preparation.. 18 june..

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/ddayclit/dday.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/ddayclit/dday2.jpg)

 >:(

but..

I was prepared.. as I follow meteorology..

2 hours before the rain started the car was ready in front of the paint shop in nylons ;D

and forcing the paint shop to arrange the hours as we were the last car..god knows today what problems I had..painter busy with other customers, shop busy etc etc..
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 June 2011, 21:01:17
finally 5 pm job started and the rain after
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/ddayclit/cuptor.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/ddayclit/painting.jpg)
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 June 2011, 21:03:28
and results
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/ddayclit/painted3.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/ddayclit/painted4.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/ddayclit/painted2.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/ddayclit/painted1.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/ddayclit/painted5.jpg)
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 June 2011, 21:06:28
and the scratch resistant clear coat.. tested on a door panel .. results were impressive..

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/ddayclit/platinumlaquer.jpg)
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Post by: PhilRich on 18 June 2011, 22:57:28
Please excuse the English vernacular cem but that job is absolutely fan-bloody-tastic! The car now has a far superior finish than the manufacturer applied!! :D ;D :y
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 June 2011, 08:29:16
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Please excuse the English vernacular cem but that job is absolutely fan-bloody-tastic! The car now has a far superior finish than the manufacturer applied!! :D ;D :y

 ;D thanks Philrich :y :y

yep.. the car has much better paint system than the original.. one of the painters offered some serious money for this car :-? ;D

next year planning to re-paint omega and use this laquer also.. :y
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Post by: blackviper90210 on 19 June 2011, 09:33:29
That is love and dedication!

Great to see all your very hard work coming to fruition!!

The car looks amazing cem  :y
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 June 2011, 10:04:47
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That is love and dedication!

Great to see all your very hard work coming to fruition!!

The car looks amazing cem  :y

Thanks for your interest Blackviper :y :y
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Post by: Dishevelled Den on 19 June 2011, 10:06:54
Congratulations cem, all that hard work has resulted in an impressive finish. 8-)

I'll look forward to seeing the car with all the parts refitted and ready for the road. :y
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 June 2011, 11:37:32
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Congratulations cem, all that hard work has resulted in an impressive finish. 8-)

I'll look forward to seeing the car with all the parts refitted and ready for the road. :y

thanks Den :y :y

I'll post the final pictures when its single piece again ;D :y
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 08 July 2011, 22:57:56
here are final pictures (hood open)( I must note final polish and sanding still not done as miggy started another trouble)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/clitbit1.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/clitbit2.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/clitbit3.jpg)

front part  later covered with 3m film to protect from stonechips (pictures taken before)
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Post by: Andy B on 08 July 2011, 23:02:46
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here are final pictures .......

Great result there Cem.

I wonder how long it'll take me to drive my Omega to Ankara for a paint job?  ::)  ;D  ;D
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 08 July 2011, 23:10:16
and now its miggies turn :( (head gasket decided to give up.. )
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/headgasket1.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/headgasket2.jpg)
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 08 July 2011, 23:10:41
head gasket doesnt seem original.. I cant see any GM brand on it >:( 

but other than that , heads were not skimmed and valves in good nick..
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/headgasket3.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/headgasket4.jpg)
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Post by: PhilRich on 08 July 2011, 23:11:18
Aksi [ch351]eytan! that is a fantastic job cem! :y :y :y :y
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 08 July 2011, 23:11:19
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/headgasket5.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/omega/headgasket6.jpg)
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here are final pictures .......

Great result there Cem.

I wonder how long it'll take me to drive my Omega to Ankara for a paint job?  ::)  ;D  ;D

thanks :y

4 days with some rest I estimate.. But I promise I'll help :y
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 08 July 2011, 23:14:52
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Aksi [ch351]eytan! that is a fantastic job cem! :y :y :y :y

 :) :y :y
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 08 July 2011, 23:20:11
heads ported and polished today.. new valves (old set also useable but kept aside for bad days)

new gasket set from GM..  cylinder walls nearly new :o so no need to work there .. (measured by the specialist)
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Post by: Andy B on 08 July 2011, 23:28:26
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Aksi [ch351]eytan! that is a fantastic job cem! :y :y :y :y

 :) :y :y

Phil is just trying to show off  ;D ;D
I can remember how to say 'thank you very much' but no idea how to spell it in Turkish  :-? ;D ;D
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Post by: Del Boy on 08 July 2011, 23:49:42
Car looks great Cem, shame about the Miggy, but nothing is unfixable  :y :y
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 08 July 2011, 23:57:43
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Car looks great Cem, shame about the Miggy, but nothing is unfixable  :y :y

will be better.. few more hps.. healthy engine.. and I'll convert it to manual.. :)

 anyway I go in extra expense..
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Aksi [ch351]eytan! that is a fantastic job cem! :y :y :y :y

 :) :y :y

Phil is just trying to show off  ;D ;D
I can remember how to say 'thank you very much' but no idea how to spell it in Turkish  :-? ;D ;D

Te[ch351]ekkür ederim      ..  (spell [ch351] like  'sh' like in shell)

ü is thinner u .. but no similiar sound in English unfortunately.. :-/
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Aksi [ch351]eytan! that is a fantastic job cem! :y :y :y :y

 :) :y :y

Phil is just trying to show off  ;D ;D
I can remember how to say 'thank you very much' but no idea how to spell it in Turkish  :-? ;D ;D
Te[ch351]ekkür ederim      ..  (spell [ch351] like  'sh' like in shell)

ü is thinner u .. but no similiar sound in English unfortunately.. :-/

Te[ch351]ekkür ederim Cem  :y :y :y
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Aksi [ch351]eytan! that is a fantastic job cem! :y :y :y :y

 :) :y :y

Phil is just trying to show off  ;D ;D
I can remember how to say 'thank you very much' but no idea how to spell it in Turkish  :-? ;D ;D
Te[ch351]ekkür ederim      ..  (spell [ch351] like  'sh' like in shell)

ü is thinner u .. but no similiar sound in English unfortunately.. :-/

Te[ch351]ekkür ederim Cem  :y :y :y

 :) :y
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Post by: Omegatoy on 09 July 2011, 07:37:33
Cem,
thats a cracking job!!!
what wouldnt i give to have a spraybooth like that up here,
I have to do all the painting outside between 6pm and 10pm as thats when the sun is not so hot and the wind is not a factor >:(
than when it hardened i can polish out any imperfections!! :'(
usually takes a complete 10 hours to polish it up :-/
but a question the clear laquer you used see its made in germany, is it used straight out of the tin with a hardener added? might try it next time
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 09 July 2011, 16:02:37
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Cem,
thats a cracking job!!!
what wouldnt i give to have a spraybooth like that up here,
I have to do all the painting outside between 6pm and 10pm as thats when the sun is not so hot and the wind is not a factor >:(
than when it hardened i can polish out any imperfections!! :'(
usually takes a complete 10 hours to polish it up :-/
but a question the clear laquer you used see its made in germany, is it used straight out of the tin with a hardener added? might try it next time

thanks Omegatoy :y

yep.. you use it with hardener straightly(2 laquer 1 hardener)  (without thinner) .. but has a problem..it can flow easily and  dries very late and smells bad .. :-/ :(

even 2 days after painting it was soft so we applied the first level sanding easily..but after 10 days 2k grid sandpaper was definitely useless ;D

when we were painting after 2-3 tiny layers (actually equivalent to one thick layer ) it was about to flow down so we stopped and give some heat and wait nearly 25-30 minutes (check the drying state from newspaper covers) and then continue with another tiny 3-4 layers)

so I recommend you test it on a vertical surface first with several layers to see its flow point :y


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Post by: Omegatoy on 09 July 2011, 17:28:29
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Cem,
thats a cracking job!!!
what wouldnt i give to have a spraybooth like that up here,
I have to do all the painting outside between 6pm and 10pm as thats when the sun is not so hot and the wind is not a factor >:(
than when it hardened i can polish out any imperfections!! :'(
usually takes a complete 10 hours to polish it up :-/
but a question the clear laquer you used see its made in germany, is it used straight out of the tin with a hardener added? might try it next time

thanks Omegatoy :y

yep.. you use it with hardener straightly(2 laquer 1 hardener)  (without thinner) .. but has a problem..it can flow easily and  dries very late and smells bad .. :-/ :(

even 2 days after painting it was soft so we applied the first level sanding easily..but after 10 days 2k grid sandpaper was definitely useless ;D

when we were painting after 2-3 tiny layers (actually equivalent to one thick layer ) it was about to flow down so we stopped and give some heat and wait nearly 25-30 minutes (check the drying state from newspaper covers) and then continue with another tiny 3-4 layers)

so I recommend you test it on a vertical surface first with several layers to see its flow point :y



yep!! had a couple where the laquer wouldnt go off hard for about a week!! always looking for a better product!! and i always do one low  panel with 2 or 3 light coats, and another with a heavy one if i think it wont sag, then give them a while to see which looks best, then  do the rest of the car!!
Thanks Cem :y
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 09 July 2011, 18:48:55
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Cem,
thats a cracking job!!!
what wouldnt i give to have a spraybooth like that up here,
I have to do all the painting outside between 6pm and 10pm as thats when the sun is not so hot and the wind is not a factor >:(
than when it hardened i can polish out any imperfections!! :'(
usually takes a complete 10 hours to polish it up :-/
but a question the clear laquer you used see its made in germany, is it used straight out of the tin with a hardener added? might try it next time

thanks Omegatoy :y

yep.. you use it with hardener straightly(2 laquer 1 hardener)  (without thinner) .. but has a problem..it can flow easily and  dries very late and smells bad .. :-/ :(

even 2 days after painting it was soft so we applied the first level sanding easily..but after 10 days 2k grid sandpaper was definitely useless ;D

when we were painting after 2-3 tiny layers (actually equivalent to one thick layer ) it was about to flow down so we stopped and give some heat and wait nearly 25-30 minutes (check the drying state from newspaper covers) and then continue with another tiny 3-4 layers)

so I recommend you test it on a vertical surface first with several layers to see its flow point :y



yep!! had a couple where the laquer wouldnt go off hard for about a week!! always looking for a better product!! and i always do one low  panel with 2 or 3 light coats, and another with a heavy one if i think it wont sag, then give them a while to see which looks best, then  do the rest of the car!!
Thanks Cem :y

 :y :y
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Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 July 2011, 19:26:15
Well done Cem. Excellent pictures... :y
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Post by: henryd on 09 July 2011, 20:34:30
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Car looks great Cem, shame about the Miggy, but nothing is unfixable  :y :y

will be better.. few more hps.. healthy engine.. and I'll convert it to manual.. :)

 anyway I go in extra expense..

Stick a set of 3.0 litre cams in it Cem, that will wake it up :y
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 09 July 2011, 22:46:23
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Well done Cem. Excellent pictures... :y

Thanks Opti :y
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 09 July 2011, 22:48:02
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Car looks great Cem, shame about the Miggy, but nothing is unfixable  :y :y

will be better.. few more hps.. healthy engine.. and I'll convert it to manual.. :)

 anyway I go in extra expense..

Stick a set of 3.0 litre cams in it Cem, that will wake it up :y

I will if I can, but I came with empty hands after a visit to breakers.. they dont have.. and they are too expensive to buy new here :-/
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 July 2011, 21:01:53
some pictures after head rebuild
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/rebuilt1.jpg)
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/rebuilt2.jpg)
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 July 2011, 21:04:26
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/rebuilt4.jpg)

cambelt set
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/rebuilt3.jpg)

I prefer instead of gm kit.. have the necessary markings .. and following the guides from here (I have the cambelt dvd files)
it was a perfect fit at the first trial..tensions correct, positions correct.. :)
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 July 2011, 21:06:22
I found the 3.0 inlet cams from the breakers (only one pair)  .. and guess what, they were fractured.. >:( >:( >:(

an idiot hammered them  >:( 

so I give up :'(


anyway engine is ok now.. much better than before as heads are polished.. tomorrow will start the manual conversion..
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Post by: Omegatoy on 14 July 2011, 21:09:44
bad luck Cem
never mind it runs good now, it will seem faster with the manual box anyway!!! :y
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 July 2011, 21:13:10
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bad luck Cem
never mind it runs good now, it will seem faster with the manual box anyway!!! :y

I'm like a children now and cant wait ;D ;D
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 July 2011, 21:18:45
now the debate started at home .. I want to put autobox at home and swmbo dont want it ;D ;D :-/
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Post by: Omegatoy on 15 July 2011, 08:41:03
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now the debate started at home .. I want to put autobox at home and swmbo dont want it ;D ;D :-/


easy!!

the rules are,
inside the house is the womans domain,
the shed , garage ,workshop, patio, garden, male domain!!! :y
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 July 2011, 22:52:43
today visisted the breakers and bought a vectra b 2.5 flywheel
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/vectraflywheel.jpg)

and skimmed (or machined) with this
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/torna.jpg)
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 July 2011, 22:42:29
yippeee..

first drive with manual..

slightly modded engine, less weight,short differential ratio..it goes like a stink .. and roads were empty :o :o :-X

now its another car.. 

will post some pictures after mid is re-programmed and some small details :) :y

ps: vectra v6 smf works without any problem as expected..
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Post by: Omegatoy on 19 July 2011, 07:36:10
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yippeee..

first drive with manual..

slightly modded engine, less weight,short differential ratio..it goes like a stink .. and roads were empty :o :o :-X

now its another car.. 

will post some pictures after mid is re-programmed and some small details :) :y

ps: vectra v6 smf works without any problem as expected..
thats brilliant news Cem!!! :y just had a thought,please tel me you remembered to put a spigot bearing in the end of the crank though?
otherwise the box wont last long!!
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Post by: Jimbob on 19 July 2011, 07:40:40
Good work fella!
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 July 2011, 10:44:19
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yippeee..

first drive with manual..

slightly modded engine, less weight,short differential ratio..it goes like a stink .. and roads were empty :o :o :-X

now its another car.. 

will post some pictures after mid is re-programmed and some small details :) :y

ps: vectra v6 smf works without any problem as expected..
thats brilliant news Cem!!! :y just had a thought,please tel me you remembered to put a spigot bearing in the end of the crank though?
otherwise the box wont last long!!

thanks Omegatoy  :y

we put the spigot bearing .. I will post the pictures tonight (I hope I can go back home before 12 pm )

 :) :) :y


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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 July 2011, 10:46:01
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Good work fella!

Thanks Jimbob :y

the only downside is I used some credit and need to pay back.. :(    where is the nearest bank to rob ;D
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 July 2011, 19:54:38
here are the pictures from auto to maual conversion..

I'll be glad if anyone on here uses the pictures to explain anything or for any circumstance.. I'm not that pro to explain necessary steps in detail..(although I witnessed all steps and done some myself (little ;D :-[)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/smf.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/smf2.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/resim.jpg)
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 July 2011, 19:55:29
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/debriyajyeri.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/debriyajmerkez.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/clutchmastercylinderfeed.jpg)
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 July 2011, 19:56:29
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/clutchmastercylinder.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/clutchbearing.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/baskbalata.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/vitesyeri.jpg)
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 July 2011, 19:56:54
and the night work
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/nurishop.jpg)
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Post by: aaronjb on 19 July 2011, 20:12:08
Impressive work Cem!

Do you fancy coming and doing mine too? ;)
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 July 2011, 20:26:10
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Impressive work Cem!

Do you fancy coming and doing mine too? ;)

you must be joking  ::) ;D
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Post by: aaronjb on 19 July 2011, 20:28:06
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Impressive work Cem!

Do you fancy coming and doing mine too? ;)

you must be joking  ::) ;D

Oh damn :(  ;D
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 July 2011, 20:29:34
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Impressive work Cem!

Do you fancy coming and doing mine too? ;)

you must be joking  ::) ;D

Oh damn :(  ;D

I cant move the autobox from floor let alone doing the job ;D
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Post by: Omegatoy on 19 July 2011, 20:34:17
looks to be fine to me Cem :y :y :y
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 July 2011, 20:37:18
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looks to be fine to me Cem :y :y :y

thanks Omegatoy.. pictures are also taken for you to control ;D :y :y :y :y
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Post by: Omegatoy on 19 July 2011, 22:08:55
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looks to be fine to me Cem :y :y :y

thanks Omegatoy.. pictures are also taken for you to control ;D :y :y :y :y


LOL needs to be a 3d walk round vdeo for me to check everything from here Cem :o from what i can see though you and your mate are doing a great job, hope you really enjoy the car now!! power and economy!! :y :y
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looks to be fine to me Cem :y :y :y

thanks Omegatoy.. pictures are also taken for you to control ;D :y :y :y :y


LOL needs to be a 3d walk round vdeo for me to check everything from here Cem :o from what i can see though you and your mate are doing a great job, hope you really enjoy the car now!! power and economy!! :y :y

yep.. we tried our best..  :y

the car, now, completely transformed to another personality..  :-?   I think I'll keep it longer.. brand new similiar acceleration cars cost a fortune here..which I cant buy anyway..

still some electronic needs to be done.. programming the mid.. solving the ignition retard (still I didnt understand though, my friend says he can solve by programming the ecu) :-/

anyway I'm a happy bunny now :) :y
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Post by: Ken T on 19 July 2011, 23:01:17
Very impressive work Cem, I sometimes wonder if I would prefer a manual change, but my drive into work in the mornings is stop/go where automatic is perfectly suited. I think I'm getting lazy  ;D ;D

Ken
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 July 2011, 23:20:31
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Very impressive work Cem, I sometimes wonder if I would prefer a manual change, but my drive into work in the mornings is stop/go where automatic is perfectly suited. I think I'm getting lazy  ;D ;D

Ken

thanks Ken.. :y

my autobox anyway was too sluggish (old car) and needs to be serviced soon.. so I made a decision and bite the bullet..
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 21 July 2011, 20:20:19
and today last step..  cruise control ..

working schemas from haynes and matchless notes..
my miggy 97 so further search was required..
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/gearelectronic1.jpg)

some cable signal tests
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/gearelectronic2.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/gearelectronic3.jpg)

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/gearelectronic4.jpg)
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 21 July 2011, 20:22:04
mid programmed before..

and brake switch,clutch switch tests,cruise tests
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/gearelectronic5.jpg)

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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 21 July 2011, 20:23:18
and it was hot as a hell
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x80/mecdv6/gearelectrtemp.jpg)

result.. cruise control working and switch off both from clutch and brake pedal.. :)
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 21 July 2011, 20:24:12
but..

we changed the fuel pressure regulator (new) which arrived today and still starting late when hot..GRRRRR.. >:(