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Title: Dual Ram box thingy
Post by: mdbs on 01 June 2011, 19:58:06
Hi, still collecting parts, just bought another mig welder, for my V6 into an MX5 job, But do  I have to keep the dual ram thing just behind the rad? Or will it be ok without? I have seen someone replace it with an aftermarket one???

Ideally I want to loose it but dont want to loose low down power..
Title: Re: Dual Ram box thingy
Post by: TheBoy on 01 June 2011, 20:54:44
If using same ecu, the solenoids need to remain.  The multiram purpose is to flatten torque curve, so depends on your requirements :)
Title: Re: Dual Ram box thingy
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 01 June 2011, 22:10:58
You can use a Cavalier/Calibra V6 ECU & loom - that works fine but has no multiram - so you dispense with the solenoids mentioned :y :y
Title: Re: Dual Ram box thingy
Post by: MartinP on 01 June 2011, 22:49:38
This is a westfield with the plenum removed and a few other bits added  :D

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/issunaz/Omega/AEvans_Engine.jpg)

Martin
Title: Re: Dual Ram box thingy
Post by: The Red Baron on 01 June 2011, 22:52:09
oooooo nice. :y
Title: Re: Dual Ram box thingy
Post by: Ian_D on 01 June 2011, 22:57:06
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This is a westfield with the plenum removed and a few other bits added  :D

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/issunaz/Omega/AEvans_Engine.jpg)

Martin
Do you have any more pics / info regarding that  Westfield Martin? :P
Title: Re: Dual Ram box thingy
Post by: aaronjb on 01 June 2011, 22:57:45
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This is a westfield with the plenum removed and a few other bits added  :D

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/issunaz/Omega/AEvans_Engine.jpg)

Martin

A friend of mine keeps threatening to break his old 3.2 and put the engine in something like a Westfield .. I think I'll send him that; he'll be out in the garage with a set of spanners within an hour I reckon ;D
Title: Re: Dual Ram box thingy
Post by: MartinP on 01 June 2011, 23:23:30
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Quote
This is a westfield with the plenum removed and a few other bits added  :D

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/issunaz/Omega/AEvans_Engine.jpg)

Martin
Do you have any more pics / info regarding that  Westfield Martin? :P


Have a look on NIse7ens website, look for SEiw Vaux V6 in member list

Martin
Title: Re: Dual Ram box thingy
Post by: MartinP on 01 June 2011, 23:34:13
Sorry for the hijack, should have started my own post.
Martin

Mine is progressing slowly

from this

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/issunaz/Robin%20Hood/Chassis23-10-08.jpg)

to this

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/issunaz/Robin%20Hood/DSCF1619.jpg)

and then this

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/issunaz/Robin%20Hood/DSCF3251.jpg)


a few weeks ago

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/issunaz/Robin%20Hood/April011.jpg)

Title: Re: Dual Ram box thingy
Post by: albitz on 01 June 2011, 23:38:58
Looks very impressive. :y
Title: Re: Dual Ram box thingy
Post by: Kevin Wood on 01 June 2011, 23:43:33
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This is a westfield with the plenum removed and a few other bits added  :D

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/issunaz/Omega/AEvans_Engine.jpg)

Martin
Do you have any more pics / info regarding that  Westfield Martin? :P


Have a look on NIse7ens website, look for SEiw Vaux V6 in member list

Martin

I've seen that Westfield in the flesh and it is very nice indeed.

In fact, that picture on the front page of their web site... I think me and my Westfield are lurking in the background somewhere... ;D

http://www.nise7ens.net/

Kevin
Title: Re: Dual Ram box thingy
Post by: Ian_D on 01 June 2011, 23:58:30
I've been that busy that in the last 18 months or so, I've managed to make some engine mounts, fit the front suspension and errr... thats it.  :'(

http://www.ijdonline.co.uk/main/cars/kitcar/index.asp

Theres a few pics on my website (above), and a little test video of the engine running (sat on a plank of wood in the frame, with me holding it!  ;D). That was the last time that engine ran too :-[ Really must get on with it.
Title: Re: Dual Ram box thingy
Post by: alank46 on 05 June 2011, 10:57:19
Hi
Very impressive build.  Its good to see that you have done away with the horrible sliding pillar front suspension of the original kit. 
Alan

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Sorry for the hijack, should have started my own post.
Martin

Mine is progressing slowly

from this

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/issunaz/Robin%20Hood/Chassis23-10-08.jpg)

to this

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/issunaz/Robin%20Hood/DSCF1619.jpg)

and then this

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/issunaz/Robin%20Hood/DSCF3251.jpg)


a few weeks ago

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/issunaz/Robin%20Hood/April011.jpg)

Title: Re: Dual Ram box thingy
Post by: mdbs on 05 June 2011, 17:56:27
OK, thanks for the relevant replies, lol. And sorry for the double posting I couldnt find the first so thought something had gone wrong...
Title: Re: Dual Ram box thingy
Post by: fregis on 06 September 2011, 21:25:51
to me a similar problem, but to me more space forward. unite shorter distance of the pipes going to enter Y
Only low space the flow meters, but I think add 2x flow metter  and MS2

MartinP>>
how you intend to solve the conduct of the exhaust manifold. Home Made? the length, diameter of the pipes are going to use?
Title: Re: Dual Ram box thingy
Post by: Nick W on 07 September 2011, 08:08:18
I'm planning on using a 3.0l in my Standard Flying 12 hotrod project. Well, I will when I clear the backlog of existing jobs, somettime next year.
Title: Re: Dual Ram box thingy
Post by: 2woody on 07 September 2011, 09:23:59
you need to retain the dual-ram capability or power will be down markedly. ( think 35 BHP down )

the specs that you can choose are as follows :-

2.5 Calibra/Cavalier. No dual ram, but only 170 BHP

2.5 Vectra Dual ram of a different type and 170 BHP

2.5 Vectra GSi - uses 3.0 cams and a special ECU to make 200 BHP, but still uses dual ram

3.0 Omega dual ram only and 210 BHP

sorry
Title: Re: Dual Ram box thingy
Post by: fregis on 09 September 2011, 20:00:31
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you need to retain the dual-ram capability or power will be down markedly. ( think 35 BHP down )

the specs that you can choose are as follows :-

2.5 Calibra/Cavalier. No dual ram, but only 170 BHP

2.5 Vectra Dual ram of a different type and 170 BHP

2.5 Vectra GSi - uses 3.0 cams and a special ECU to make 200 BHP, but still uses dual ram

3.0 Omega dual ram only and 210 BHP

sorry

found-if change stock x30xe ecu, you got 260 hp  ~310 nm , only ecu, if do mods?  exhaust maifolt, intake porting..
Title: Re: Dual Ram box thingy
Post by: MartinP on 09 September 2011, 22:24:05
Exhaust is being made by John Ahsley exhausts, Walsall.

3 16" primaries, over the top chassis rail, angled down to a collector with a lamba boss, curved pipe with a flexible coupling into a CAT/silencer box with 2 support brackets.

Primaries will be ceramic coated to reduce the heat.

Martin