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Title: Peugeot 206
Post by: Andy B on 14 September 2011, 21:00:02
Does anyone know if there's manual adjustment on the clutch cable of a Peugeot 206? The young lad across the road has just had a new clutch fitted in his car because he's had problems & the garage he took it to said a new clutch was needed (they would wouldn't they  ::) ::)) When cold, he's having problems engaging 1st & 2nd gear (it's 'grinding'), which suggests to me the clutch itself isn't quite disengaging. There was minimal free play in the cable though before the actuating arm seemed to move, but I couldn't see an obvious means of adjustment.
The garage of course have fobbed him off with an excuse that there 'is play in the gear change linkage'  :-X :-X
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 September 2011, 21:06:56
tell him to sell and buy a clit ;D :y
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: RobG on 14 September 2011, 21:16:46
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Does anyone know if there's manual adjustment on the clutch cable of a Peugeot 206? The young lad across the road has just had a new clutch fitted in his car because he's had problems & the garage he took it to said a new clutch was needed (they would wouldn't they  ::) ::)) When cold, he's having problems engaging 1st & 2nd gear (it's 'grinding'), which suggests to me the clutch itself isn't quite disengaging. There was minimal free play in the cable though before the actuating arm seemed to move, but I couldn't see an obvious means of adjustment.
The garage of course have fobbed him off with an excuse that there 'is play in the gear change linkage'  :-X :-X
Any good :-/
http://www.peugeot206cc.co.uk/repair-206/206/info/gb/b2be02k3.htm
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: Andy B on 14 September 2011, 21:53:12
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Does anyone know if there's manual adjustment on the clutch cable of a Peugeot 206? The young lad across the road has just had a new clutch fitted in his car because he's had problems & the garage he took it to said a new clutch was needed (they would wouldn't they  ::) ::)) When cold, he's having problems engaging 1st & 2nd gear (it's 'grinding'), which suggests to me the clutch itself isn't quite disengaging. There was minimal free play in the cable though before the actuating arm seemed to move, but I couldn't see an obvious means of adjustment.
The garage of course have fobbed him off with an excuse that there 'is play in the gear change linkage'  :-X :-X
Any good :-/
http://www.peugeot206cc.co.uk/repair-206/206/info/gb/b2be02k3.htm

Thanks Rob  :y
It shows that you should have about 5mm play at the clutch arm ........ it was about that. It'll probably 'ride in with wear'  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: Andy B on 14 September 2011, 21:54:16
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tell him to sell and buy a clit ;D :y

I'll tell him.  ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 14 September 2011, 22:31:40
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tell him to sell and buy a clit ;D :y

I'll tell him.  ;D ;D ;D ;)


seriously, although the last 3 years of pegueot production is not that bad (as far as I know- can be different for some) before that time a 8-9 years of period pegueots failure  was  so common that here was an internet site run by owners that have many open cases against pegueot.. and those cars in second hand was very hard to sell.. but still when buyers hear this name they stay away..  clit however, is known to be a better car (my experience also approves the same)  and their second hands expensive and easy to sell here..
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 15 September 2011, 08:00:46
Interesting that as I would not touch a Renault witha  shitty stick and would back the Peugeot.

As for the difficulty when cold, gearbox oil would be worth a check and a change (as if it was clutch I would expect it to be an issue no matter what the temperature)
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: albitz on 15 September 2011, 08:07:29
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Interesting that as I would not touch a Renault witha  shitty stick and would back the Peugeot.

As for the difficulty when cold, gearbox oil would be worth a check and a change (as if it was clutch I would expect it to be an issue no matter what the temperature)

Nor would I. :y
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: blackviper90210 on 15 September 2011, 08:37:23
When SWMBO passed her test not so long back, I got her an old 3 dr clit, wow, what a car. It was quick, no problems and served her well.

She then spotted a nearly new Pug 206, a little while later it was sat on the drive. Thats when the fun started and the bank balance went beyond zero.

Indicator switch failed - £75+ VAT, not the arm but a bloody switch.
The g/box then started to play up, £1000+ for a g/box plus labour!

Told SWMBO to sell it before I used it to keep us warm on the patio  ;D ;D

Pugs - Not for me  >:(
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 September 2011, 09:30:10
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Interesting that as I would not touch a Renault witha  shitty stick and would back the Peugeot.

As for the difficulty when cold, gearbox oil would be worth a check and a change (as if it was clutch I would expect it to be an issue no matter what the temperature)

Nor would I. :y

I touched one with a Volvo once. It made a bit of a mess. :-[
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: henryd on 15 September 2011, 09:53:01
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Interesting that as I would not touch a Renault witha  shitty stick and would back the Peugeot.

As for the difficulty when cold, gearbox oil would be worth a check and a change (as if it was clutch I would expect it to be an issue no matter what the temperature)

Nor would I. :y

Me neither ,Peugeot all the way,I find small Renaults very fragile both mechanically and electrically :-/
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: Andy B on 15 September 2011, 11:26:20
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As for the difficulty when cold, gearbox oil would be worth a check and a change
Good idea, although that might sound as i I'm volunteering to do it for him  ;D ;D


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(as if it was clutch I would expect it to be an issue no matter what the temperature)
Me too. The clutch action was nice & smooth when I had a quick drive up & down the street (engine warm/hot).
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 September 2011, 12:02:40
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Interesting that as I would not touch a Renault witha  shitty stick and would back the Peugeot.

As for the difficulty when cold, gearbox oil would be worth a check and a change (as if it was clutch I would expect it to be an issue no matter what the temperature)

my gearbox (clit) probably has the worst life between many cars (as my wife and I also abuse it) , and never ever let me down.. and also have no noise.. :)
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 September 2011, 12:04:03
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When SWMBO passed her test not so long back, I got her an old 3 dr clit, wow, what a car. It was quick, no problems and served her well.

She then spotted a nearly new Pug 206, a little while later it was sat on the drive. Thats when the fun started and the bank balance went beyond zero.
Indicator switch failed - £75+ VAT, not the arm but a bloody switch.
The g/box then started to play up, £1000+ for a g/box plus labour!

Told SWMBO to sell it before I used it to keep us warm on the patio  ;D ;D

Pugs - Not for me  >:(


I hope anti-clit group will hear this ;D :D :y
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 September 2011, 12:08:37
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Interesting that as I would not touch a Renault witha  shitty stick and would back the Peugeot.

As for the difficulty when cold, gearbox oil would be worth a check and a change (as if it was clutch I would expect it to be an issue no matter what the temperature)

Nor would I. :y

I touched one with a Volvo once. It made a bit of a mess. :-[

probably you are talking about a Laguna Kevin.. one friend had the new model, and for sometime only changed regular service items..but older model was not that innocent..
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 September 2011, 12:43:07
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I touched one with a Volvo once. It made a bit of a mess. :-[

probably you are talking about a Laguna Kevin.. one friend had the new model, and for sometime only changed regular service items..but older model was not that innocent..

No.. This was a Renault 5 and I was in the Volvo - which needed the chassis pulling. Renault 5 needed more. ;D

I had a Mk. 1 Laguna which was pretty solid, actually, IMHO. Later Lagunas are a bit too plasticky for my liking, and a few friends have had some huge bills.
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 15 September 2011, 12:56:07
Trouble is CEM that Renault make some pretty evil compromises on some bits to make them right hand drive (clutch cables being particularly tortourous on some).

Plus the winters here dont help.

Interestingly I was following a Megane Scenic this morning and thought they had fitted the wrong wattage brake lights. Then when he indicated I realised it was the standard Renault wiring fault!  ;D
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 September 2011, 13:57:49
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Trouble is CEM that Renault make some pretty evil compromises on some bits to make them right hand drive (clutch cables being particularly tortourous on some).

Plus the winters here dont help.

Interestingly I was following a Megane Scenic this morning and thought they had fitted the wrong wattage brake lights. Then when he indicated I realised it was the standard Renault wiring fault!  ;D


 a car converted from original design to another may have faults .. as it also has other costs for another test/trial/production  period.. And I never think, French take it serious.. (because they cant be serious even in war ;D)

let cheapo clits aside , even BMW and Mercedes dont build robust cars proportional to their famous names in the last years (say 10 years) .. :-/  the money I spend for clit repairs in the last 3 years (and it was already an old car)  was just a small fraction what friends spend for their bimmers.. because day to day I see they repair their cars in their garage ;D ;D

honestly , I'm not a fan of any brand name, but I know how much I spend for my cars and clit (except painting and tires-wheels )  dont cost serious money..



Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: Andy B on 15 September 2011, 14:23:43
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Trouble is CEM that Renault make some pretty evil compromises on some bits to make them right hand drive  .....

pretty much the same as Peugeot then  ;) ;) ;)
http://www.warrantyguide.co.uk/vehicle-recall-FECF30B05ED7F701802577F40047E80C-peugeot-308-recall
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 September 2011, 14:46:11

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Trouble is CEM that Renault make some pretty evil compromises on some bits to make them right hand drive  .....

pretty much the same as Peugeot then  ;) ;) ;)
http://www.warrantyguide.co.uk/vehicle-recall-FECF30B05ED7F701802577F40047E80C-peugeot-308-recall

Didn't Sh1troen have an appearance on Watchdog recently for a similar reason? ;D

Anyone spotted a pattern yet? ;)
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: Andy B on 15 September 2011, 14:53:20
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Anyone spotted a pattern yet? ;)

errrr  ::) ::)......... apart from the country of origin  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 September 2011, 14:55:19
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Trouble is CEM that Renault make some pretty evil compromises on some bits to make them right hand drive  .....

pretty much the same as Peugeot then  ;) ;) ;)
http://www.warrantyguide.co.uk/vehicle-recall-FECF30B05ED7F701802577F40047E80C-peugeot-308-recall

the previous model 307 caused a lot of headache for both customers and Pegueot here.. seems like they dont take the lessons :(
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 September 2011, 14:57:47
  ::) talking about french cars on a British site was not a good idea from the beginning.. ;D 

its your fault Andy ;D :y
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: Andy B on 15 September 2011, 15:15:20
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its your fault Andy ;D :y

guilty as charged!  ;D ;D ;D



I have to admit I wouldn't mind this  :y (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Citroen-DS-iD-19-Manual-NEW-MOT-Classic-DS-TAX-EXEMPT-/270799260643?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3f0ce4cbe3)
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: s7eve v6 24v on 15 September 2011, 19:09:18
pugs all the way with no doubt. renault pieces of shite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :y
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 September 2011, 19:55:53
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its your fault Andy ;D :y

guilty as charged!  ;D ;D ;D



I have to admit I wouldn't mind this  :y (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Citroen-DS-iD-19-Manual-NEW-MOT-Classic-DS-TAX-EXEMPT-/270799260643?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3f0ce4cbe3)

this was a very good car in its time..  :y
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 September 2011, 19:56:27
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pugs all the way with no doubt. renault pieces of shite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :y

 ::) here we go again ;D ;D
Title: Re: Peugeot 206
Post by: Webby the Bear on 15 September 2011, 20:28:08
i'll end this renault/pug argument.

theyre both shit!  :y