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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: tunnie on 19 September 2011, 11:55:59
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Just double checking my understanding...
If a car is declared SORN & has no valid tax or MOT, you can drive it to a pre-booked MOT appointment as long as its insured? (eg my Policy for my 2.2 covers other cars 3rd party)
Front Window Tints - On said car, they are without out a doubt illegal, research appears to get a mixed reaction to MOT, feeling I get is they are not part of the test, (assuming front windscreen is not tinted)
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also after you get the Pass, the car would still be SORN, so it would need to be declared un-SORN then apply for tax disc with relevant insurance papers? :-/
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also after you get the Pass, the car would still be SORN, so it would need to be declared un-SORN then apply for tax disc with relevant insurance papers? :-/
Not sure, but believe local tax office can do all that in one hit while you wait, and send off logbook to DVLA if required?
Would need to take MOT, insurance for that car (ie, not 3rd party cover you have with another policy), logbook, and money.
You could ring the local tax office to find out. One in Northampton (near BMW dealer), and on in centre of Oxford. No doubt, millions in London
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Also check your 3rd party cover. It probably specifies that the vehicle must be insured in its own right too ;)
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also after you get the Pass, the car would still be SORN, so it would need to be declared un-SORN then apply for tax disc with relevant insurance papers? :-/
Not sure, but believe local tax office can do all that in one hit while you wait, and send off logbook to DVLA if required?
Would need to take MOT, insurance for that car (ie, not 3rd party cover you have with another policy), logbook, and money.
You could ring the local tax office to find out. One in Northampton (near BMW dealer), and on in centre of Oxford. No doubt, millions in London
Yup, aware of that was referring to 3rd party cover for the drive there and back.
Once MOT has passed, I would set insurance to swap over at some date, so I can take that as proof for tax.
Not sure on impact of not having log book in my name, wonder if could do that in same hit too.
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Also check your 3rd party cover. It probably specifies that the vehicle must be insured in its own right too ;)
Mine doesn't, it just specifies that it has to belong to someone else.
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Also check your 3rd party cover. It probably specifies that the vehicle must be insured in its own right too ;)
Agreed, normally vehicle must insured in its own right which would then allow you to drive it third party with your ins.
LD, your back :D :D :D :y
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Might get some useful info here:
http://www.carinsuranceexplained.com/car-insurance-explained/driving-other-cars-doc-car-insurance.html
From what I have read, it seems less common on fully comp policies now than it used to be and is a little ambiguous depending where you read it.
Your best bet is probably a quick phonecall to your insurance company for piece of mind.
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it seems to be insurance company dependant on whether the car NEEDS to be insured or not.
I know for a fact Direct line DIDNT need it insured a few years ago as I spoke to them about it.
I have heard of other companies stating the opposite.
IMHO, ring your company and ask, and get the name of who you spoke to, and pref an email confirming. Does seem a very grey area.
And 'if' the handbrake were to break while parked and cause an incident, then there would be no insurance in effect as you bum has left the seat.
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it seems to be insurance company dependant on whether the car NEEDS to be insured or not.
I know for a fact Direct line DIDNT need it insured a few years ago as I spoke to them about it.
I have heard of other companies stating the opposite.
IMHO, ring your company and ask, and get the name of who you spoke to, and pref an email confirming. Does seem a very grey area.
And 'if' the handbrake were to break while parked and cause an incident, then there would be no insurance in effect as you bum has left the seat.
Thats who my policy is with :y
Yes, if your not in it, no insurance! Depending how things go, looking to get an MOT during day, don't want to have to leave it overnight or anything at the tester.
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Thats who my policy is with :y
Yes, if your not in it, no insurance! Depending how things go, looking to get an MOT during day, don't want to have to leave it overnight or anything at the tester.
I'm sure you are permitted to drive to and from an MOT if the car is SORN, and regardless of whether it's passed or not, as long as it's not dangerous.
I would insure it properly, though. I'm sure your insurance company would have trouble understanding the fact that you are taking somebody else's car for an MOT. I doubt that'd wash at all, TBH.
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FWIW, a single day's insurance for the 300ZX cost me £35 - hardly bank breaking, and 5 days (just in case it fails the first time) was £75..
Which I guess I need to do again now, seeing as I had the sill welded up yesterday!
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I thought just Taxing the vehicle, automatically undoes the Sorn?
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I thought just Taxing the vehicle, automatically undoes the Sorn?
Yes, it does. You just have to tax it in the normal way. :y
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I thought just Taxing the vehicle, automatically undoes the Sorn?
Be interested to know if thats correct :y
What if you try to tax a car with valid insurance & MOT, but the log book is in another persons name, can that be done?
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I thought just Taxing the vehicle, automatically undoes the Sorn?
Yes, it does. You just have to tax it in the normal way. :y
Great stuff :)
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That said, I believe you can only tax it from the beginning of the month, so if you did it today you would effectively pay from 1st September. ::)
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I thought just Taxing the vehicle, automatically undoes the Sorn?
Be interested to know if thats correct :y
What if you try to tax a car with valid insurance & MOT, but the log book is in another persons name, can that be done?
Is it going to be transferred into your name? You can tax a vehicle with just the "New Keeper Supplement" filled out (with the rest of the V5 posted off to the DVLA, of course) - done that many times when buying a car. Otherwise, the DVLA say no:
The New Keeper Supplement can only be used for taxing at the Post Office for two months from the date you bought your vehicle. However, the DVLA Local Office will accept it for taxing up to thirteen months from your purchase date. If it’s out of date, you’ll need to apply for a Registration Certificate in your name – please see Taxing without a Registration Certificate or New Keeper Supplement’ below.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_069680
[edit] Further down that page expands on what to do if you aren't the registered keeper and don't have the New Keepers Supplement:
If you’re not shown as the registered keeper on DVLA records you cannot tax the vehicle. You’ll need to apply for a Registration Certificate in your name. To get one, fill in form V62 ‘Application for a Vehicle Registration Certificate’ and post to DVLA, Swansea SA99 1DD. You may have to wait up to four weeks for a new certificate to arrive. In the meantime, you should keep your vehicle off the road.
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to newly TAX a car, it must have insurance AND an MOT
You can legally drive an uninsured car ONLY to and from a booked MOT test appointment
To drive another car on your own insurance covering you 3rd party, said car MUST have a policy of its own covering it to be road legal in the first place
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to newly TAX a car, it must have insurance AND an MOT
You can legally drive an uninsured car ONLY to and from a booked MOT test appointment
To drive another car on your own insurance covering you 3rd party, said car MUST have a policy of its own covering it to be road legal in the first place
No. You can never legally drive uninsured. ;) I guess you meant untaxed?
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So basically its a bit of a mine field! ;D
Good point RE tax, i'll take new keeper supplement, I'm not in central London today, but am on Wednesday post office near my, i'll double check there as well :)
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Tunnie, just talk to your insurers and ask them to put an additional car on Temp Cover. My saloon cost me £35/month TP only as an additional car while I was selling it ;) ;)
Explain that it's a car you have been offered and you want to stick it in for an MOT to see if it's worth changing from yours to it
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Tunnie, just talk to your insurers and ask them to put an additional car on Temp Cover. My saloon cost me £35/month TP only as an additional car while I was selling it ;) ;)
Explain that it's a car you have been offered and you want to stick it in for an MOT to see if it's worth changing from yours to it
What she said ^^^^^ ::) ::) ::)
It's probably cheaper (and easier) to do it that way, plus the cover note is suitable for Taxing the vehicle :y
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Tunnie, just talk to your insurers and ask them to put an additional car on Temp Cover. My saloon cost me £35/month TP only as an additional car while I was selling it ;) ;)
Explain that it's a car you have been offered and you want to stick it in for an MOT to see if it's worth changing from yours to it
What she said ^^^^^ ::) ::) ::)
It's probably cheaper (and easier) to do it that way, plus the cover note is suitable for Taxing the vehicle :y
Excellent, good idea. Thanks :y
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to newly TAX a car, it must have insurance AND an MOT
You can legally drive an uninsured car ONLY to and from a booked MOT test appointment
To drive another car on your own insurance covering you 3rd party, said car MUST have a policy of its own covering it to be road legal in the first place
Absolutely and completely wrong. Cannot over emphasise this.
All a pre booked MOT exempts you from is possession of a valid MOT certificate and a valid excise licence (tax disc) for the vehicle in question.
Any time a vehicle is used on a road ir requires insurance. The driving other cars exemption that some talk about (3rd party etc) is a completely seperate can of worms....
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I thought just Taxing the vehicle, automatically undoes the Sorn?
Be interested to know if thats correct :y
What if you try to tax a car with valid insurance & MOT, but the log book is in another persons name, can that be done?
Thats why you might need to go to tax office :y
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What if you try to tax a car with valid insurance & MOT, but the log book is in another persons name, can that be done?
Thats why you might need to go to tax office :y
You can do it at a post office. Take the new keeper's supplement and evidence of MOT and insurance and job done. Exactly what I did when I bought the Omega (which was SORN at the time).
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What if you try to tax a car with valid insurance & MOT, but the log book is in another persons name, can that be done?
Thats why you might need to go to tax office :y
You can do it at a post office. Take the new keeper's supplement and evidence of MOT and insurance and job done. Exactly what I did when I bought the Omega (which was SORN at the time).
I do the same,works every time :y
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I work on the principal that if the civil service can screw something up, they will. And DVLA shine through as living up to the civil service motto - "We're alright, Jack"