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Chat Area => Omega Gallery => Topic started by: GmasterT on 27 October 2008, 10:10:31
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Bought on Friday, took it to pod on Saturday :D
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nice looking car, and looks like your having fun 8-)
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Very good indeed, and a car being used as it should be!! :y :y :y ;)
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Thats what i'm talking about :y
Standard suspension I see ;D
Join the club :-[
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yeah, completely standard bar a welded diff :D
It got on pretty well, (I do teach on the pod days so have a fair amount of experience!) I have some lowering springs lined up for it apparantly, but wont go too mad as its my daily driver.
It did scare me by giving piston ring type smoke signals, but Its stopped now, so I am thinking old hot oil getting thrown up into the heads... topped up and cleared through ok. Although the check engine light came on on the way home and I dont know why... still on now :-?
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yeah, completely standard bar a welded diff :D
It got on pretty well, (I do teach on the pod days so have a fair amount of experience!) I have some lowering springs lined up for it apparantly, but wont go too mad as its my daily driver.
It did scare me by giving piston ring type smoke signals, but Its stopped now, so I am thinking old hot oil getting thrown up into the heads... topped up and cleared through ok. Although the check engine light came on on the way home and I dont know why... still on now :-?
so how does the car corner with a locked diff on the roads...?
Great car mate :y
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Looks great fun, nice car too :y
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yeah, completely standard bar a welded diff :D
Does your insurer know? :-/
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Handles ok once you have got going, it is noticable on slow roundabouts and corners and a bit of a pig when parking etc (have to turn off the TC as it confuses it ::))
The insurer doesnt know, I have trade insurance anyway, so covers any modification and I have had no issue on previous 200sx's with the same mod on 'normal' insurance, nice soap box btw :P
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What sort of money are you looking at for an ex-police car and what level of spec do they have? I take it they don't come with all the radio gear!! :D
How does the handling compare to your 200SX?
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What sort of money are you looking at for an ex-police car and what level of spec do they have? I take it they don't come with all the radio gear!! :D
How does the handling compare to your 200SX?
They have GLS trim, and your looking about anywhere from 600-1400 quid I would've said dependant on cond. age etc.
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What sort of money are you looking at for an ex-police car and what level of spec do they have? I take it they don't come with all the radio gear!! :D
How does the handling compare to your 200SX?
I got mine at a really good price from a friend. Out of the box I suppose the drift handling is more or less on par, although the omega has a lot more weight obviously! The 200 will always be a better bet for getting serious though, if only for the tuneabilty, price and range of extras that are out there, plus no random lights that flash up as they are less likey to throw a strop after a bit of stick lol
Still love my mega though, did some demo/passanger rides at flame and thunder as good as any of the skylines etc, could go 4 up in the wet, more money! lol ;D :y
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love it! Could scare a few chicks with that! :P
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sorry if i sound like a total idiot but how do you actually do the sideways stuff ?
obviously you cant do it on the roads
I would be worried i ended up facing the wrong way.
can you give a quick run down on how its done please. :y
Doug
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sorry if i sound like a total idiot but how do you actually do the sideways stuff ?
obviously you cant do it on the roads
I would be worried i ended up facing the wrong way.
can you give a quick run down on how its done please. :y
Doug
Be a pleasure :-)
In an ideal world a locking diff and some useable power is the best way, but there are other techneques you can use to get the car sideways.
The initial getting sideways is the easy bit and can be done by either:
Clutch kick - Going round a corner as normal (even slowly) and dipping the clutch, revving the engine and dumping the clutch to 'shock' the rear wheels into spinning and sending the back out. Side effects when learning are mainly understeer. This normally comes about when you have not given it enough power (or manfoot ;) ) which just sends a surge of grip to the rear wheels making the car push the front wheels forward (against the direction you are pointing them) causing good old understeer. The other reason is (often instinctively) Applying too much lock into the initial turn in the first place causing a similar effect of just pushing the front wheels foward rather than sending the back end 'out'
Hand brake/Emergancy brake (or wand!) - Used if going faster generally, gradually start the turn into the corner, dip the clutch, rip up the wand, let the back come out, drop the wand and lift the clutch/give the power. Common faults, dodgy handbbrakes and not dipping the clutch!
Power over - More or less what it says on the tin, going round the corner as normal and gradually but quickly applying more gas untill the rear comes out. Again, if the set up/power (you need a fair amount vs. rear grip) is not right or too much lock is applied, this can just turn into push on over steer.
Once the back is out:
Clutch kick - you back off the power for a moment to point where you want the angle to be from the initial 'upset' then apply the power fairly sharpish (if turbo'd/under powered another clutch kick may be needed at this point to get back in the power band)
Hand brake - the back is already out and you should be in the power band anyway by the time you re-engage drive as you raise the revs before lifting the clutch after releasing the handbrake anyway
Power over - similar to clutch kick, but if you have got to that stage already then a back off/flutuation of the loud pedal is all you should need.
My lunch break is now over, next is steering which I will do when I can, hope this all helps (evryone?!) :y
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Nice motor mate :y
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Nice motor mate :y
Cheers :y
(Will also edit the 1st drifty steps with weight shift too soon)
Steering...
The best and basic drifty trick here is to learn to let go of the steering wheel. I rarely/never cross my hands and let the fact the wheels tend to roughly stay where you want to go do the work. You couldnt ever really turn the wheel as fast as you need to go anyway.
When (for instance) clutch kicking, you perform the 'kick' and the back comes out, as you do this start the wheel to opposite lock and then let it feed through your hands and catch it where you want to be. The catch normally comes at the same time as the inital backing off the power once the rear has come out to the angel you want. Then put your boot down and adjust the sterring where you want to go! (Easy as that)
Changing direction:
Generally speaking, once you have come to the end of your corner you want to go the other way. You back off the gas and give the wheel a quick flick in the opposite direction. As you would have backed off the power, the momentum/weight would have started going the other way anyway, so the flick on the steering is again, just getting things moving again for the front wheels to counter the other way. Once the weight is moveing and the front wheels are countering, let the steering feed through as before to the point you want, catch it and while doing so apply the power again to start your next drift!
Other tricks:
I know it sounds obvious but look where you are going, use your periferol vison on obsicles and look in the direction of the front wheels. Accept the fact you will bump a few cones etc as you learn
And relax, if you are getting frustrated and stiff, go and have a breather. The trick to drifting (as with most things) is to not think about it. Tricky when learning, but thats were practise comes in. I could tell you everything I know but nothing will compare to seat time :y
Right, run out of lunch break again, I will try and think of some more tips but thats the main bits covered :)