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Chat Area => Omega Gallery => Topic started by: geoffr70 on 18 November 2010, 01:14:56
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.....more like marmite when you hear its history!
1982 Dennis RS133 Pump Escape fire engine. Last of the escapes! Perkins 540 10.5 litre V8 N/A diesel engine putting out (only) 149 kw! Not sure of torque figure. Coupled to Alison MT643 autobox with power take off for pump (4 deliveries - for big hose), 2 hose reels.
Immaculate condition (dirty in pics), fully kitted out ready for service, main ladder (steel, and heavy) fully restored. Based at Brighton (interesting bit later on!), now in Sunderland! Very noisy and very fast, 10ish mpg!
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First appliance on scene of the Brighton bombing when the I.R.A. tried to assassinate Margaret Thatcher!
MOT exempt, free road tax - provided it is maintained as an operational machine, ready to fight fires! It had a sister engine but unfortunately this was involved in an RTC where a woman died so was scrapped.
The noise from this thing is unbelievable! People down the street turn round and stop and stare to see what the noise is, it's hilarious! It surprises people from the lights aswell it's got a huge turn of speed!
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Being an HGV driver I love this, it looks amazing and would love to have a drive of this one. The only thing I'd like to see is the wheel trims removed and the rims shot blasted and painted plain silver. :y :y
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now thats a nice piece of kit, i could see that parked on my drive :y
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is that a Alexander Belfast body one
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The only thing with the wheel trims is that it kicks up all the grime and water from the road and gets the bodywork in a right mess! I think they look good in the summer though!
I don't think it is an Alexander Belfast body one, :-/ I've never heard of that to be honest. The Dennis fire engines were made at their factory it Guildford. They are to stop making them no though unfortunately, as they are the Rolls Royce of fire engines!
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It's great to see that model again as I'd forgotten about the large wheels on the ladder carriage.
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Nice looking machine there ...
Here's the beast i get to throw around at work :y :y
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what size engine does that monster have?
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Do you privately own it, or as part of a club etc?
Very interesting indeed, and 10mpg is certainly an impressive figure...makes our Omega's look very economical.
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i know the ones the northern ireland fire and rescue service were done in belfast
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Do you privately own it, or as part of a club etc?
Very interesting indeed, and 10mpg is certainly an impressive figure...makes our Omega's look very economical.
I own it and got it for quite a steal considering it's immaculate and fully kitted out, and especially looking at some of the prices alot lesser machines go for on the likes of ebay! The insurance is next to nothing aswell!
My dad's has got some aswell. He's got a 1952 Commer Pump Escape from Perth & Kinross which is believed to be the last in the country. This has a 3.8 petrol straight six with crash gearbox and is in very good condition due to the body being aluminium. This is on stands due to getting the brakes overhauled after I bust them! He's also got a 1962 Bedford TJ with a 5.0 litre petrol straight six and crash gearbox! A very similar set up to the green goddesses, but only a smaller chassis. They are both split screen and look like toys or something off Noddy!
He had an old Dennis F12 pump escape with a straight 8 Rolls Royce petrol engine putting out 250 bhp, that was an awesome engine, but he got rid of it.
The Dennis in the pictures I think is good as to the untrained eye, from the front it look quite new-ish, but from the back of course you can see it is old.
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Do you privately own it, or as part of a club etc?
Very interesting indeed, and 10mpg is certainly an impressive figure...makes our Omega's look very economical.
Well it gets that figure as it is geared for speed and acceleration, so when maintaining a steady say 30 mph when in 'D', it won't change up, so the power is always there if you want it. (Obviously not driven that much when in service so economy (back then anyway) wasn't be the most important thing). Although having said that when it does change up, starngely enough the acceleration is even greater as there is a massive surge of torque really low down. These engines were no good in trucks or buses apparently.
I've had 77 mph out of this though!
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what size engine does that monster have?
Not sure on the engine size to be honest but heres the info
I know they do 1 mile per litre ;D ;D ;D
Chassis Unipower 6x6
Engine Detroit diesel 8V92TA 2 stroke turbo 585bhp
gearbox twin disc TD61-1172 automatic
Performance 67 mph(107kph) 0-50 mph(80 kph) in 27 seconds
Water tank 1500 gallons (6825 litres)
Foam tank 180 gallons(820 Litres)
Pump Godiva output 5300 Litres per min
Roof Monitor 3000 Litres per minute at 14 Bar
Bumper Monitor 1000 Litres per minute at 14 bar
Sidelines 1100 Litres per minute
2 x 50kg Monnex dry powder cylinders
High pressure hosereel
Length 10.5m
Width 2.8m
Height 3.28m
Turning Circle 21m
Weight 26,460kg
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what size engine does that monster have?
Not sure on the engine size to be honest but heres the info
I know they do 1 mile per litre ;D ;D ;D
Chassis Unipower 6x6
Engine Detroit diesel 8V92TA 2 stroke turbo 585bhp
gearbox twin disc TD61-1172 automatic
Performance 67 mph(107kph) 0-50 mph(80 kph) in 27 seconds
Water tank 1500 gallons (6825 litres)
Foam tank 180 gallons(820 Litres)
Pump Godiva output 5300 Litres per min
Roof Monitor 3000 Litres per minute at 14 Bar
Bumper Monitor 1000 Litres per minute at 14 bar
Sidelines 1100 Litres per minute
2 x 50kg Monnex dry powder cylinders
High pressure hosereel
Length 10.5m
Width 2.8m
Height 3.28m
Turning Circle 21m
Weight 26,460kg
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A big one then! :y
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Do you privately own it, or as part of a club etc?
Very interesting indeed, and 10mpg is certainly an impressive figure...makes our Omega's look very economical.
I own it and got it for quite a steal considering it's immaculate and fully kitted out, and especially looking at some of the prices alot lesser machines go for on the likes of ebay! The insurance is next to nothing aswell!
My dad's has got some aswell. He's got a 1952 Commer Pump Escape from Perth & Kinross which is believed to be the last in the country. This has a 3.8 petrol straight six with crash gearbox and is in very good condition due to the body being aluminium. This is on stands due to getting the brakes overhauled after I bust them! He's also got a 1962 Bedford TJ with a 5.0 litre petrol straight six and crash gearbox! A very similar set up to the green goddesses, but only a smaller chassis. They are both split screen and look like toys or something off Noddy!
He had an old Dennis F12 pump escape with a straight 8 Rolls Royce petrol engine putting out 250 bhp, that was an awesome engine, but he got rid of it.
The Dennis in the pictures I think is good as to the untrained eye, from the front it look quite new-ish, but from the back of course you can see it is old.
Again, very interesting. The insurance issue is why I asked whether you owned it yourself. Your 8 years older than me, and I imagined the insurance would be fairly hefty...even if insured as a classic vehicle.
I have come across a few 1991 to 1997 Volvo FL6 units over the past year that have been very cheap...but I think they would not be classed as classics and would therefore attract a much higher insurance premium.
Maybe you'll have to bring yours to an OOF meet :D
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I looooove big red fire engines.....................but I loooooooooooooove the fireman even more :D :D :D ;)
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Do you privately own it, or as part of a club etc?
Very interesting indeed, and 10mpg is certainly an impressive figure...makes our Omega's look very economical.
I own it and got it for quite a steal considering it's immaculate and fully kitted out, and especially looking at some of the prices alot lesser machines go for on the likes of ebay! The insurance is next to nothing aswell!
My dad's has got some aswell. He's got a 1952 Commer Pump Escape from Perth & Kinross which is believed to be the last in the country. This has a 3.8 petrol straight six with crash gearbox and is in very good condition due to the body being aluminium. This is on stands due to getting the brakes overhauled after I bust them! He's also got a 1962 Bedford TJ with a 5.0 litre petrol straight six and crash gearbox! A very similar set up to the green goddesses, but only a smaller chassis. They are both split screen and look like toys or something off Noddy!
He had an old Dennis F12 pump escape with a straight 8 Rolls Royce petrol engine putting out 250 bhp, that was an awesome engine, but he got rid of it.
The Dennis in the pictures I think is good as to the untrained eye, from the front it look quite new-ish, but from the back of course you can see it is old.
Again, very interesting. The insurance issue is why I asked whether you owned it yourself. Your 8 years older than me, and I imagined the insurance would be fairly hefty...even if insured as a classic vehicle.
I have come across a few 1991 to 1997 Volvo FL6 units over the past year that have been very cheap...but I think they would not be classed as classics and would therefore attract a much higher insurance premium.
Maybe you'll have to bring yours to an OOF meet :D
They aren't fire appliances! The only real appliances were built by John Dennis Coachworks of Guildford, Surrey! ;) :P :y
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Do you privately own it, or as part of a club etc?
Very interesting indeed, and 10mpg is certainly an impressive figure...makes our Omega's look very economical.
I own it and got it for quite a steal considering it's immaculate and fully kitted out, and especially looking at some of the prices alot lesser machines go for on the likes of ebay! The insurance is next to nothing aswell!
My dad's has got some aswell. He's got a 1952 Commer Pump Escape from Perth & Kinross which is believed to be the last in the country. This has a 3.8 petrol straight six with crash gearbox and is in very good condition due to the body being aluminium. This is on stands due to getting the brakes overhauled after I bust them! He's also got a 1962 Bedford TJ with a 5.0 litre petrol straight six and crash gearbox! A very similar set up to the green goddesses, but only a smaller chassis. They are both split screen and look like toys or something off Noddy!
He had an old Dennis F12 pump escape with a straight 8 Rolls Royce petrol engine putting out 250 bhp, that was an awesome engine, but he got rid of it.
The Dennis in the pictures I think is good as to the untrained eye, from the front it look quite new-ish, but from the back of course you can see it is old.
Again, very interesting. The insurance issue is why I asked whether you owned it yourself. Your 8 years older than me, and I imagined the insurance would be fairly hefty...even if insured as a classic vehicle.
I have come across a few 1991 to 1997 Volvo FL6 units over the past year that have been very cheap...but I think they would not be classed as classics and would therefore attract a much higher insurance premium.
Maybe you'll have to bring yours to an OOF meet :D
They aren't fire appliances! The only real appliances were built by John Dennis Coachworks of Guildford, Surrey! ;) :P :y
Well insurance is very cheap through NFU. They must've made a big loss as I claimed for a windscreen (poor pigeon) and paid the excess of £90, Shame the screen costs £600 though and was specially made!
I'm familar with the FL614s. They aren't purpose made fire engines, but adapted, and not very well. Tyne and Wear have just got rid of a load, and got new purpose made Volvos which are, well, that's another story!
The FL614s have a straight 6 litre turbo diesel, and the chassis is rated at 14 tonnes. The fuel consumption is terrible and the acceleration and turbo lag in particular is unacceptable to the point of being dangerous when pulling out at junctions.
When first made, the brakes which were the same ones that were used on the big lumbering furniture lorries, weren't upto the job and couldn't stop a 14 tonne machine with blue lights on flying towards a junction so they had to be upgraded!
As the FL6s aren't purpose made, the front cab is in two sections. The two sections are bridged by a gap with a rubber seal, but when there is an adverse camber on the road, the two sections move independently and break the seal, allowing water/muck/noise in etc - not very good!
As for the insurance, well when i did my LGV at 23 I went straight onto driving the Bedford and insurance wasn't increased. I think it's because of the kind of vehicle it is, and the low mileage. Obviously I'm not going to be behaving like a boy race in a Saxo in that doing wheel spins - although they can be done!!!! :( ;D
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I looooove big red fire engines.....................but I loooooooooooooove the fireman even more :D :D :D ;)
I can give you a ride if you want!!! :D
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I looooove big red fire engines.....................but I loooooooooooooove the fireman even more :D :D :D ;)
I can give you a ride if you want!!! :D
make sure you are in uniform :D :D ;D
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I looooove big red fire engines.....................but I loooooooooooooove the fireman even more :D :D :D ;)
I can give you a ride if you want!!! :D
Ah but mines bigger than yours ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ::)
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But mine's faster, alot faster! Haha!
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I always wanted a fire engine of my very own, great for water fights :D :D :D I want a Green Godess or a Land Rover version ideally....swmbo would kill me now though if I bought such a thing..... I need to be single again.... ::) ::) ::)
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I always wanted a fire engine of my very own, great for water fights :D :D :D I want a Green Godess or a Land Rover version ideally....swmbo would kill me now though if I bought such a thing..... I need to be single again.... ::) ::) ::)
we burst a delivery hose (the big red ones) when doing a foam 'drill'! The foam inductor by its very nature is restrictive and causes back pressure which blew the hose apart which was very dangerous, but fun!!!!