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Title: Nokia N95?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 14 August 2007, 20:51:05
Thinking of getting one, anyone recommend best place / contract? Or any negative views, or other recommendations? Lots of texts important, and need a small amount of cross network anyime calls..
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: Dazzler on 14 August 2007, 20:56:18
Nice phone, and Nokia are one of the more reliable makes with good battery life. As for for where, just look on the internet as to who is offering the phone for free and take it from there. Also check who has best coverage for your area althiugh they are nearly all as good as each other these days.
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: TheBoy on 14 August 2007, 20:57:03
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Thinking of getting one, anyone recommend best place / contract? Or any negative views, or other recommendations? Lots of texts important, and need a small amount of cross network anyime calls..
N95 quite a big phone....

If its a big phone, I have an XDA Exec going cheap. XDA is a WinCE based device, rather than Symbian on Nokia.
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: Danny on 14 August 2007, 21:25:52
its not so much a "big" phone, just quite chunky

T-Mobile's flext deals aren't too bad, i believe we have a mobile phone sales person within the forum somewhere

the N95 is a phone packed full of features, full spec found at nokia.com as you already know i'm sure, but the thing i find with it, and with all series 60 platform phones is that it's not the fastest phone, applications take a few seconds to load up, which isnt too much but when other standard phones react the second you press a button, you notice it!

I'm getting the E90 next month, may have to cancel my current contract and get a new one if my network can't undercut what i've seen so far
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: TheBoy on 14 August 2007, 21:28:28
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its not so much a "big" phone, just quite chunky

T-Mobile's flext deals aren't too bad, i believe we have a mobile phone sales person within the forum somewhere

the N95 is a phone packed full of features, full spec found at nokia.com as you already know i'm sure, but the thing i find with it, and with all series 60 platform phones is that it's not the fastest phone, applications take a few seconds to load up, which isnt too much but when other standard phones react the second you press a button, you notice it!

I'm getting the E90 next month, may have to cancel my current contract and get a new one if my network can't undercut what i've seen so far
Windows is the way forward ;)
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: CaptainZok on 14 August 2007, 21:33:03
If you want a windows phone wait till next month when the Kaiser is released, everything the exec is and more but in a smaller form factor, even has built in gps.
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: tunnie on 14 August 2007, 21:33:53
I have one at work... (i have a draw of about 50 mobiles)

Its sh!t!

Quite big, poor build for a Nokia, riddled with faults, our one crashes a lot. Someone else at work has had 2 different ones, each with a crashing problem

The built in GPS is shocking, can't get a signal in London, its compatabilty with other big Symbian programs is poo!

Battery life is crap, if switched to GSM only it picks up, still crap though. Camera is not amazing given its pixel rating, but the lens is too small so lots of colour spil.

Get a Nokia 6300..... its a phone phone, fast, easy to use. Small.
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: TheBoy on 14 August 2007, 21:34:30
Exec is good if you want phone with VGA screen and QWERTY keyboard.  Downsides is I think its too bulky, and it seems sluggish, even in 'corporate mode'
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: CaptainZok on 14 August 2007, 21:37:33
Mine's rather arthritic, as I've filled it with crap. Have you tried a hard reset then stopping the o2 customisations from running? You get a clean device and can then run what you need from extended rom to set up as required.
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: TheBoy on 14 August 2007, 21:40:58
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Mine's rather arthritic, as I've filled it with crap. Have you tried a hard reset then stopping the o2 customisations from running? You get a clean device and can then run what you need from extended rom to set up as required.
yep, thats corporate mode...
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: CaptainZok on 14 August 2007, 21:47:32
T Mob don't do 2 versions you just get the full barbie pink experience  :-[ so I've unlocked my extended rom and deleted the T Mob customisations so on a hard reset it only loads the bits I want. Handy if you want a prog to install automatically after a hard reboot too.
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: Danny on 14 August 2007, 21:47:46
i still want E90 tho, which also has GPS!
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: TheBoy on 14 August 2007, 21:52:09
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i still want E90 tho, which also has GPS!
N95 has gps receiver (shame it doesn't work with TomTom software though, bloody Nokia), as do many others (Symbian and Windows) now.
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: tunnie on 14 August 2007, 21:58:47
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i still want E90 tho, which also has GPS!
N95 has gps receiver (shame it doesn't work with TomTom software though, bloody Nokia), as do many others (Symbian and Windows) now.

The signal is very, very week, If and when TomTom support it, signal in a car would be rubbish. Still best to use an external gps unit....
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: RonaldMcBurger on 14 August 2007, 22:10:55
Talk to laidback. he bought one yesterday.
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: tunnie on 14 August 2007, 22:25:47
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Talk to laidback. he bought one yesterday.

ohhh dear!  :'(
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 14 August 2007, 22:30:28
I've used them, but only for testing. Wouldn't bother with one as a phone for reasons already stated. The whole thing feels bloated, with poor response from the GUI (the most important phone feature IMO). Battery life is 1 day of standby time on 3G but improves a bit on 2G only if you don't use all those bells and whistles.

Yes, it's got a good camera (why would I want one when I've got a digtal SLR?) it's got an MP3 player (so have many better phones) It's got GPS but then I've got a hand held GPS, and a TOM TOM. Rolling all these features into your phone detracts from what you spend 99% of your time trying to do with it IMHO - trying to make phone calls.

The GPS supports assisted GPS which in theory gives a very quick position fix but be aware that the firmware that's currently shipping (from Orange at any rate) doesn't support this, as I found out to my frustration >:( So you're back to a standard GPS that downloads its' data from the GPS constellation at 50 BAUD. Expect to stand around for a few minutes while it gets its' act together. Phone comes with a few lame positioning applications but haven't seen a convincing reason to have it yet.

I've just reluctanly chopped in my ageing 6310i for a 6300. It has MP3 player, a camera, radio, etc. (none of which I really want) but is much nicer to use than the N95 and it's nice and small (bit to small, IMO. looks like it belongs in a handbag  :o and requires dainty little fingers to use). Battery life is not great compared to the 6310i but it will do a couple of days between fixes in real life. With an N95 you'd have to be close to a charger 24/7 IMO.

Despite the fact that I see a lot of phones in the course of my work I don't see many that I'd like to have for myself, at least not after the initial novelty has worn off - hence sticking with the 6310i for so long. My opinion is that you can always use a phone to give a PocketPC connectivity and that way you can leave the PocketPC at home and have a nice small phone when a phone is all you need.

Kevin
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: TheBoy on 14 August 2007, 22:34:45
I want a small WinCE phone.  My Orange SPV m500 is great, but could do with bit more processor, and better voice dialling over bluetooth.
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: Markie on 14 August 2007, 22:47:12
Leave it well alone. As a phone network we have had them intesting for 6 months and they are awful. They dont do much right and a lot wrong.

Our last go /. no go meeting to carry it on the network was a no go...we simply wont put our customers through or put our name to a handset with so many deficiencies.

Yes its thats bad, battery awful, video streaming woeful....need i go on....
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: Markie on 14 August 2007, 22:49:14
oh and James if you want a good network, good phone and cheapest tariff ( x network) pm me.....

Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: Jay w on 15 August 2007, 11:51:05
nokia last night announced that they were recalling a load of  batteries due to operating temp and poor performance.

I used to swear by nokia, had a 7610, 7650, and a 8800 the build quality was appauling, switched to samsung for my 'friday night phone' and have a Orange SPV M3100 as my daily (windows pocket PC running windows mobile 6)
Pocket PC's type devices are the way forward, am thinking of the iphone when it comes out here (know its not Windows, just love the mac OS)

I have sat nav installed on a micro SD, and a GPS receiver (£30 on ebay) it does everything i want it to do and a lot more.

Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: Dazzler on 15 August 2007, 12:42:07
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oh and James if you want a good network, good phone and cheapest tariff ( x network) pm me.....


Can you beat £60 worth of calls for £13 per month. T-mobile flex with discount ::)
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: Markie on 15 August 2007, 13:32:47
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oh and James if you want a good network, good phone and cheapest tariff ( x network) pm me.....


Can you beat £60 worth of calls for £13 per month. T-mobile flex with discount ::)


Probably
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: Admin on 15 August 2007, 15:03:09
Initial thoughts....

I like it. :)
It is a little larger than my W810i but it has some very useful functions which I specifically got it for.

The firmware seems to be the issue. I have updated it to the latest version (lots of improvements) and removed Oranges blocking of VOiP ;)

So far it is very very impressive. Video and camera are amazing for a phone.

Battery life is understandable considering what it does. I can live with it.

I got it free on my contract too. :)

All a question of what you want from a phone....
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: RonaldMcBurger on 15 August 2007, 15:56:39
1. Make a phone call

Ermmmmmmmmmmm that's it! :y
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: AndersH on 15 August 2007, 15:56:43
I like my N95 too  :)

I had an N80 before which got slated for similar reasons and this was the next logical step. Battery life isn't the best but is definitely acceptable and the screen is great. Haven't done much with the GPS yet, I'll probably stick to Tomtom with the seperate GPS dongle - suits me fine.
This is the 4th S60 handset I've had though so perhaps I'm just a fanboy?  ::)
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: Markie on 15 August 2007, 15:57:40
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1. Make a phone call

Ermmmmmmmmmmm that's it! :y


Agree.  :y :-[
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: Danny on 15 August 2007, 16:27:23
my first series 60 was a 6600 and i loved it! it'll be a refreshing change for me to go back to a series 60 after having series 80 for about 3 years
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 August 2007, 17:08:42
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1. Make a phone call

Ermmmmmmmmmmm that's it! :y


Agree.  :y :-[

Me too.

Mobile networks are desperate to get us all doing things on our mobiles that will increase churn of handsets, and allow them to charge more for services, etc.

The problem is their area of expertise is in putting up antennae not generating compelling web services to which I'm going to get so addicted that I can't bear not to use them for the 1 hour each day I'm away from a wired internet connection.

(During that hour I'm driving either an MV6 or a Westfield, by the way - so no chance!)

Still, tunnie'll change all that, no doubt  :y

Kevin
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: Markie on 15 August 2007, 17:42:47
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1. Make a phone call

Ermmmmmmmmmmm that's it! :y


Agree.  :y :-[

Me too.

Mobile networks are desperate to get us all doing things on our mobiles that will increase churn of handsets, and allow them to charge more for services, etc.

The problem is their area of expertise is in putting up antennae not generating compelling web services to which I'm going to get so addicted that I can't bear not to use them for the 1 hour each day I'm away from a wired internet connection.

(During that hour I'm driving either an MV6 or a Westfield, by the way - so no chance!)

Still, tunnie'll change all that, no doubt  :y

Kevin


To be honest we ( the company i work for) are makeing massive ( market leading ) strides in this.

Its only my personal opinion that agrees a phone is a phone  ;D
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 August 2007, 18:36:53
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Its only my personal opinion that agrees a phone is a phone

Well, I share that opinion, as do many others, no doubt, despite (perhaps because!) of the fact that I also work in the industry. Still, I hope some people like all the toys because they keep us in employment. :y

Kevin
  

Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: Markie on 15 August 2007, 18:50:19
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Its only my personal opinion that agrees a phone is a phone

Well, I share that opinion, as do many others, no doubt, despite (perhaps because!) of the fact that I also work in the industry. Still, I hope some people like all the toys because they keep us in employment. :y

Kevin
  



Agree  ;D we had "manufacturer x" on site today to demo a potential new hanset they want us to take on and promo all the applications it can run, quicker, faster, slicker blahdy blah.

I dodged that meeting, filled my calander all day with nonsense, terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tireded and went to lunch instead.  ::)
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: TheBoy on 15 August 2007, 18:54:35
I agree, a phone is a phone. It will never be a camera/media player/whatever.

Saying that, I've learnt how to text now  :P
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: Jay w on 15 August 2007, 19:07:46
a phone is much more than that to me....

Email, internet, modem, camera for spur of the moment issues and video for feedback on issues as well.

Calendar and reminder for appointments, MP3 player for when i forget my ipod.

a lot of my use is for business, it saves me lugging a lappy around

and because i am away from home sooooo much i use the video calling a heck of a lot, as a result my bills are £300+ a month regularly  :'(
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: TheBoy on 15 August 2007, 19:28:39
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a phone is much more than that to me....

Email, internet, modem, camera for spur of the moment issues and video for feedback on issues as well.

Calendar and reminder for appointments, MP3 player for when i forget my ipod.

a lot of my use is for business, it saves me lugging a lappy around

and because i am away from home sooooo much i use the video calling a heck of a lot, as a result my bills are £300+ a month regularly  :'(
Actually, I agree, hence I use a Windows phone.

Cameras on phones are my big bugbear, they are crap, always have been, always will be.  I'd happily drop the camera.  Mrs TheBoy is not allowed a camera at her work (car R&D site), makes getting a new handset for her a right PITA
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 August 2007, 19:30:42
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because i am away from home sooooo much

Ahh, that's the key, I suspect.

If I were travelling around I'd be looking for excuses not to lug around a Laptop too. Great for cheapo Tech 2 and demoing stuff that absolutely requires a PC but far too clumsy for checking email IMHO.

Kevin
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 August 2007, 19:35:12
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Cameras on phones are my big bugbear, they are crap, always have been, always will be.  I'd happily drop the camera.  Mrs TheBoy is not allowed a camera at her work (car R&D site), makes getting a new handset for her a right PITA

Yep. Still, the megapixel watchers will clamour for the latest one even though the cr@p lens is incapable of resolving anything like the detail the megapixel rating suggests ;D

I occasionally have to visit sensitive sites and I guess I'll have to start remembering to switch back to the 6310i now >:(

Kevin
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: CaptainZok on 15 August 2007, 19:36:51
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a phone is much more than that to me....

Email, internet, modem, camera for spur of the moment issues and video for feedback on issues as well.

Calendar and reminder for appointments, MP3 player for when i forget my ipod.

a lot of my use is for business, it saves me lugging a lappy around

and because i am away from home sooooo much i use the video calling a heck of a lot, as a result my bills are £300+ a month regularly  :'(
Actually, I agree, hence I use a Windows phone.

Cameras on phones are my big bugbear, they are crap, always have been, always will be.  I'd happily drop the camera.  Mrs TheBoy is not allowed a camera at her work (car R&D site), makes getting a new handset for her a right PITA

I find my phone camera handy for taking snaps to illustrate a problem in later safety meetings etc.
I always have my phone in my pocket so if I spot an issue I can capture it before it gets rectified, and then have evidence to try and stop it happening again. Granted the quality is a bit dodgy but I don't carry my digi camera at work.

Yup windows phones rock, been using one since the original spv, current work phone is a virgin lobster not the most stylish but at the price great value and a lot more durable than the MDA Pro which I tend to use as a sat nav nowadays.
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: Markie on 15 August 2007, 19:42:16
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a phone is much more than that to me....

Email, internet, modem, camera for spur of the moment issues and video for feedback on issues as well.

Calendar and reminder for appointments, MP3 player for when i forget my ipod.

a lot of my use is for business, it saves me lugging a lappy around

and because i am away from home sooooo much i use the video calling a heck of a lot, as a result my bills are £300+ a month regularly  :'(

Who on earth are you with as a bill like that on the correct tariff on ANY network should be nigh on impossible to run up  :y
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: Jay w on 16 August 2007, 12:20:14
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a phone is much more than that to me....

Email, internet, modem, camera for spur of the moment issues and video for feedback on issues as well.

Calendar and reminder for appointments, MP3 player for when i forget my ipod.

a lot of my use is for business, it saves me lugging a lappy around

and because i am away from home sooooo much i use the video calling a heck of a lot, as a result my bills are £300+ a month regularly  :'(

Who on earth are you with as a bill like that on the correct tariff on ANY network should be nigh on impossible to run up  :y

a certain fruity network who have me locked to a contract for another 6 months.......

you would have thought that after 10 years of custom there would be something they could do........err no  >:(

phone is in my companies name so it cushoins the blow a little

my last bill was a cheap one at £258

1075 text
1800 mins x network
350 video calling
insurance  >:(
and line rental of £55
unlimited GPRS @ £8 (ideal for hooking a lappy up to the internet a i also get HSDP access)

that is a slightly lower than average bill....and they still wont let me upgrade early or give me anything to further reduce my bills
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: x25xe on 16 August 2007, 14:16:40
I am on Orange and am generally happy.  Would like to change to one of the new contracts that they have, but am scared to do so in case they force me to get a new phone which I don't want.  Currently I am running a Nokia 6310i.  No colour screen, no Camera, MP3 Player, Radio, Fire Extinguisher, Teas Made etc.  It is a phone that works and that is all I want.  Getting around a weeks battery life - was better when it was new at around a week and a half - two weeks!

A colleague at work has a N95 and he agrees with all the issues that have been raised above!
Title: Re: Nokia N95?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 16 August 2007, 15:09:38
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Would like to change to one of the new contracts that they have, but am scared to do so in case they force me to get a new phone which I don't want.

Keep hold of your old phone. If they make you change phone, get the new phone up and running and then swap the SIM back into your 6310i and carry on as before. Lob the new phone on ebay.

I may still go back to my 6310i...

Kevin