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Title: 13,000 miles and needs new front tyres
Post by: Jay w on 14 October 2006, 21:21:19
 >:( >:( >:( there goes any hope i had of getting the windows tinted this month.

13,000 miles and the two front tyres are shredded on the inner edges, the rest of the tyre is perfect.

I had a 4 wheel alignment done, there hasn't been any work done on the suspension since, most of that mileage has beem motorway stuff as well.

Tyre centre i go to has checked and said that there was no wear on any other components that would cause this, he did say they do ride hard on the inner edges though....

anyone else have this problem?

On the plus side took it on a rolling road today, standard 2.5V6 with 110,000 miles on it, 177 bhp and 172ftlb, not bad at all i thought
Title: Re: 13,000 miles and needs new front tyres
Post by: STMO123 on 14 October 2006, 21:23:56
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>:( >:( >:( there goes any hope i had of getting the windows tinted this month.

13,000 miles and the two front tyres are shredded on the inner edges, the rest of the tyre is perfect.

I had a 4 wheel alignment done, there hasn't been any work done on the suspension since, most of that mileage has beem motorway stuff as well.

Tyre centre i go to has checked and said that there was no wear on any other components that would cause this, he did say they do ride hard on the inner edges though....

anyone else have this problem?

On the plus side took it on a rolling toad today, standard 2.5V6 with 110,000 miles on it, 177 bhp and 172ftlb, not bad at all i thought

You ran over a toad?
Title: Re: 13,000 miles and needs new front tyres
Post by: Jay w on 14 October 2006, 21:33:00
LOL, misprint now corrected
Title: Re: 13,000 miles and needs new front tyres
Post by: Markie on 14 October 2006, 21:35:05
yep them are good performance figures for the age - in fact excellent.
Tyre wear seems excessive to me though..... :-/
Title: Re: 13,000 miles and needs new front tyres
Post by: Cav9_4 on 14 October 2006, 21:37:05
i too have had same problem,replaced tyres,put it in for mot hoping they'd find something,but nothing found (march time),took it and had wheel alignment checked,spot on ,again o/s/f tyre worn in august,tyre replaced,alignment checked yet again,still spot on,found my drivers side lower arm to be warn and damper on same side too,replaced arms and dampers both sides today,then 2 new tyres monday along with yet another wheel alignment check,gonna ask for the camber to be checked too,hopefully it will cure it this time,225/45/17's aren't cheap!...wayne
Title: Re: 13,000 miles and needs new front tyres
Post by: Admin on 14 October 2006, 21:37:17
Well I would say your 4 wheel alignment place are a bunch of muppets!  >:(

That is clearly a sign of the alignment set wrong and too much "toe in" (even my pitiful knowledge of steering gemetry tells me that!).

Wishbones ok?

Until you get it to somewhere where they can set it up correctly, it will continue to eat tyres I am afraid.

I would recommend dropping an email to Tony (username Wheels In Motion) and see if he knows of any decent place in that part of the country.
Title: Re: 13,000 miles and needs new front tyres
Post by: STMO123 on 14 October 2006, 21:40:15
Are omegas really so different from other cars in this respect? If so, why?
Title: Re: 13,000 miles and needs new front tyres
Post by: Jay w on 14 October 2006, 21:42:41
the tyre centre checked the wishbones and confirmed that they are both ok, they said there was no play in any of the components.

i will email Tony and see if he can suggest anywhere, i will have to get it done quickly otherwise it will be another set of tyres down the tubes
Title: Re: 13,000 miles and needs new front tyres
Post by: omegaV6CD on 14 October 2006, 22:29:39
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>:( >:( >:( there goes any hope i had of getting the windows tinted this month.

13,000 miles and the two front tyres are shredded on the inner edges, the rest of the tyre is perfect.

I had a 4 wheel alignment done, there hasn't been any work done on the suspension since, most of that mileage has beem motorway stuff as well.

Tyre centre i go to has checked and said that there was no wear on any other components that would cause this, he did say they do ride hard on the inner edges though....

anyone else have this problem?

On the plus side took it on a rolling road today, standard 2.5V6 with 110,000 miles on it, 177 bhp and 172ftlb, not bad at all i thought

I can only suggest that the camber is out or that you drive like Scumi. I have done 9k since i changed my tyres and there is no wear, i had full geometry set up though with the technician under my supervision. Get your geometry checked and do not trust what they say ask them to adjust it by the book.
Title: Re: 13,000 miles and needs new front tyres
Post by: tunnie on 14 October 2006, 22:35:22
ouch!!! done nearly 13k myself .. same tyres since i bought the car. According to the service history done about 10k on them before i got the car, so nearly 23k miles ware so far... still bucket loads of tread left and even ware.

I'd a full allignment on that BEFORE you put any new rubber on! - 13k miles from the front set of a rear wheel drive car!?! something is really wrong with the allignment there.

My dad has shown you can cruise @ 80 on the motorway but if you corner sensibly you can get decent miles from your rubber, his car is approaching 90k miles and is only on his second set of tyres! His first set lasted over 50k!
Title: Re: 13,000 miles and needs new front tyres
Post by: Martin_1962 on 14 October 2006, 23:05:17
Mine are like that - but I commute along twisty roads
Title: Re: 13,000 miles and needs new front tyres
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 15 October 2006, 09:19:13
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>:( >:( >:( there goes any hope i had of getting the windows tinted this month.

13,000 miles and the two front tyres are shredded on the inner edges, the rest of the tyre is perfect.

I had a 4 wheel alignment done, there hasn't been any work done on the suspension since, most of that mileage has beem motorway stuff as well.

Tyre centre i go to has checked and said that there was no wear on any other components that would cause this, he did say they do ride hard on the inner edges though....

anyone else have this problem?

On the plus side took it on a rolling road today, standard 2.5V6 with 110,000 miles on it, 177 bhp and 172ftlb, not bad at all i thought

I just put 2 tyres on the front of my merc for exactly the same reason......it recently had the lower ball joints replaced on the steering and more than likely the very reason the tyres are now doing this......so doesnt mean something is worn.....just something is not aligned correctly.

Worth getting sorted
 :y
Title: Re: 13,000 miles and needs new front tyres
Post by: JasonH on 15 October 2006, 09:39:14
I'd say the camber is out or the tracking place are adjusting the toe to the wrong setting.
Title: Re: 13,000 miles and needs new front tyres
Post by: TheBoy on 15 October 2006, 18:46:29

Its a fairly common problem with Omega. If its right on the very shoulder edge, its more likely camber related, tracking problems tend to wear a little more of the edge.

4 wheel alignment, in my opinion, is false economy. A full geometry check by somebody recommended is a far better option.
Title: Re: 13,000 miles and needs new front tyres
Post by: Jay w on 09 November 2006, 22:47:39
i had a 4 wheel alignment check done, there were some strange results

the centre set the alignment in accordance with spec, then took it for a drive and rechecked, it had fallen 3 degrees out....
reset it, again out for a test, back in for recheck, the other side had dropped 3 degrees out!!
they cannot find what it is that is causing the 3 degree movement, strangely enough it's not noticable, and i would have though 3 degrees worth of movement would have been something serious.

they also commented that the rear trqack rods had siezed, does anyone know if they are dear to replace?

Nearly all of my driving is motorway and A roads, i don't drive like a loony, although there are time i give it a bit of stick, but the sort of wear i had encountered was right on the edge and looked like i had does about 10 very fast laps, there was a lot of scrubbage!!

My new job puts me up in Nottingham, i might have a look to see if there is someone up there who can help
Title: Re: 13,000 miles and needs new front tyres
Post by: Bo Bo on 09 November 2006, 22:50:33
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Mine are like that - but I commute along twisty roads
Same as, got 14k out of mine.
Title: Re: 13,000 miles and needs new front tyres
Post by: Doughboy on 10 November 2006, 00:24:57
Doubt if this is anywhere near the same but I had a D plate fiesta years ago, 3 sets of front tyres in 2 months. Kwick fart tracking was at fault and they paid for the tyres. I took it to their "Computer tracking center" at their request and after they adjusted Toe and Camber all was fine. £14.75p well spent (10 years ago though).
Title: Re: 13,000 miles and needs new front tyres
Post by: Markjay on 10 November 2006, 00:28:55
Yep, the inner side of the front right-hand tyre was showing white canvas (!) on mine, luckily the tyre was generally low on thread and in need of replacing anyway so no big problem. Had four new tyres fitted on the occasion, then got Tony to give it a Full Geometry, done 15k miles since and no sign of uneven wear so far! The tread is now down to 4mm though…

I seem to remember that Tony said that Omegas are prone to inner front tyre wear when set to manufacturer's spec, he sets the front tracking at the edge of the spec rather then in the middle and this works - well it did for me.

He is only a few junctions on down the M1 from Nottingham.... :)


Title: Re: 13,000 miles and needs new front tyres
Post by: TheBoy on 10 November 2006, 08:59:36
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Yep, the inner side of the front right-hand tyre was showing white canvas (!) on mine, luckily the tyre was generally low on thread and in need of replacing anyway so no big problem. Had four new tyres fitted on the occasion, then got Tony to give it a Full Geometry, done 15k miles since and no sign of uneven wear so far! The tread is now down to 4mm though…

I seem to remember that Tony said that Omegas are prone to inner front tyre wear when set to manufacturer's spec, he sets the front tracking at the edge of the spec rather then in the middle and this works - well it did for me.

He is only a few junctions on down the M1 from Nottingham.... :)


Agreed, mine was eating up inside edges in no time. Tony reset camber to edge of spec, and car handling was far better, and tyres lasting longer.

Though strangely, despite having more pressure than Vx say, I am getting inside and outside edge wear...
Title: Re: 13,000 miles and needs new front tyres
Post by: JasonH on 10 November 2006, 20:40:29
I've noticed inside and outside edge tyre wear on the front (like from low tyre pressures) but mine are regularly checked and are intentionally slightly over pressure (and yes my gauge is accurate!). Those Vx figures are rubbish.
Title: Re: 13,000 miles and needs new front tyres
Post by: Markjay on 11 November 2006, 18:57:14
Vx quote 30 psi for un-ladden car, I pump 33 - it's an old trick to increase the manufacturer's spec by 10% to get a firmer ride, plus the pressure goes down over time so this way it never actually goes below 30.