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Title: V6 mpg
Post by: stuvaux on 11 December 2006, 20:24:06
is 16mpg too low for a 1999 2.5V6 estate?
i do a lot of stop start town driving
i also have an m-tek chip fitted(which i highly recommend!), and it also runs on lpg
thanks,  stu   8-)
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: Darryl Flynn on 11 December 2006, 20:27:39
I have the same car ( auto) and tend to get about 22mpg around the doors and around 33-35mpg on a run
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: Gwilym on 11 December 2006, 20:29:53
Seems a tad low. I would have thought you would get over 20mpg as I do on my 3.0 v6
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 11 December 2006, 20:30:38
Seems a little on the low side, when did you last clean breathers, throttle bodies and replace spark plugs?

Might be beneficial to check for fault codes.

Cam timing makes a big difference too.. I had a 3.0 Meega that was too advanced once, and it DRANK it!!

My 2.5 auth does about 20mpg around town, 30+ on a run.

Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: B52 on 11 December 2006, 20:48:19
currently showing 22mpg
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: Salty on 11 December 2006, 20:51:52
Mines a 3 litre and I'm getting 21ish round the town, can get it lower if I hurtle round like a lunatic though!
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: Eliteman Steve on 11 December 2006, 21:25:26
I get 28mpg average mainly A roads and M-way but some suburban driving . Granted I drive like an old fart around town :D but it's never below 90 on the M-way :y!

Might have a lot to do with the 'chip' you've got in there , could maybe do a swap for the old chip and see if there's much differance? But if your right foot is heavy it will use a lot more ;)!!
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: sounds2k on 11 December 2006, 21:25:47
mine's getting 18-19 MPG around town, quite a few short journeys from cold in with that which don't help as it's running rich, but then again I bought a 3.0 for the extra power ... and tend to use it  ;)

it's much better on longer runs though ... seem to remember getting 19-20 MPG on similar driving on the 2.5 I had previously ... plus isn't it normal to get lower MPG when running on LPG?
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: Del Boy on 11 December 2006, 21:31:07
i get 15-17 MPG round town, 20-30 on a run 3.0 manual
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: Martin_1962 on 11 December 2006, 21:50:00
13mpg :y :y

However that is from Calor to town centre - idling for 5 mins, driving up hill to home, driving to Tesco cold and back, driving to newsagent, leaving car idling because it has no petrol in it, driving around town to a pet store then home again.

Let car warm up fully until switch over, thrash to work, drive hard home.

So only a few miles since filled up and a lot of idling to save petrol.

Will get better over the tank
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 11 December 2006, 22:03:57
13mpg??? My 4 litre v8 range rover did 13mpg on gas!!!
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: Craig_R on 11 December 2006, 22:36:20
13 MPG on Gas Oh my God I would be Crying my eyes out.

You have not put a Sherman Tank Engine in there have you lol Oh no They do 1/2 MPG ouch and the New ones do even less.

What would you normal MPG be about on Gas ? Think i get about 30 odd on Gas about town and i have a heavy foot for high revs


Craig
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: stuvaux on 12 December 2006, 01:13:31
thanks guys!
seems like it can vary quite a bit!
before the chip, it used to be just over 17mpg
before the lpg conversion(over 2 yrs ago now), i think it was around 18
the spark plugs were changed about ten months ago, when i changed the cam cover gaskets, and cleaned the breathers
i think it should have a full service, and maybe another clean of those breathers...

 stu  8-)
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: stuvaux on 12 December 2006, 01:15:48
how do i check the cam timing?

the belt + rollers were changed by a vauxhall dealer around 10k ago

thanks
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 12 December 2006, 07:14:36
I only get 15mpg in my 2.2 on lpg running about town so 16 mpg for a 2.6 seems ok to me  :y
When i looked yesterday the comp said av mpg was 20mpg and av speed was 19mph......even tho i just blatted it up the m4 to heathrow.....so just shows how much town work i do!
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: Martin_1962 on 12 December 2006, 11:03:42
Worse this time of year since it is idling to get warm to save petrol.

OK then, towing on motorway around 65mph I get around 17mpg allowing lower gas energy density that is better than 2.0 at 17mpg petrol.

Cruising without van - no long trips so far but I have got mid 20s on a shortish run.

However I think it is time I cleaned the air filter, and check the calibration of the LPG system - local chap called Bernard will do it for £20 or so - he reckons I am runing too lean.

I think a richen at mid throttle would help consumption a bit.

To be honest at less than half the price of petrol I am not too bothered as the V6s sound so nice.

Anyway it is going up from 13 quite quickly as I had an easy drive to work.

Stop start on the V6s cripples fuel consumption, I haven't yet worked out how to get decent consumption from a V6. Perhaps I should not accelerate as hard, or go slower. Also mine is an automatic.

My commute is along country lanes and I cannot keep at a fixed speed.
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: hotel21 on 12 December 2006, 11:55:53
3 ltr manual - it gets around 22 on mixed driving.  Gets very low 30's on a long run.
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: Markie on 12 December 2006, 12:13:57
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3 ltr manual - it gets around 22 on mixed driving.  Gets very low 30's on a long run.


similar mv6 auro although i am getting about 18 in the last week around town... :-/
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: TheBoy on 12 December 2006, 18:24:19
Mine currently reading 24.6mpg, which is fairly average for me. Averaged 33mpg going to south of france and back.
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: zoltron on 12 December 2006, 20:43:40
Seems a little on the low side, I get 17mpg and run a 2.5 but I live in a very hilly area, when on the motorway I get 32mpg which seems about the norm for a 2.5 V6 auto
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: TheBoy on 12 December 2006, 21:09:21
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Seems a little on the low side, I get 17mpg and run a 2.5 but I live in a very hilly area, when on the motorway I get 32mpg which seems about the norm for a 2.5 V6 auto
When I had Project TB1, I was getting 25 - 27mpg on my daily work run, and seemed to hover around 33 - 34mpg at 80mph
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: BazMV6 on 13 December 2006, 12:30:34
I guess I should be very happy with 26.2 then...  :-/  Glad I don't have to drive in the big smoke...  8-)
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: jonathanh on 13 December 2006, 13:05:42
My experience is close to 30 around town and 33-37ish on a long run (2.5 manual).  Towing a fairly large open tailer  I can get 28.





Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: Timbuk on 13 December 2006, 13:27:48
I was averaging around 28-30 until i had to drive home with a knackered dis pack, then it dropped to about 12 :o
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: stuvaux on 13 December 2006, 13:46:44
what are the best things to check to improve mpg?

thanks,   stu   8-)
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: theolodian on 13 December 2006, 14:40:38
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what are the best things to check to improve mpg?

thanks,   stu   8-)
Tire pressures, crap in the boot, bad DIS/wires/plugs, leaky injectors, dead a/c clutch, low auto trany fluid, heavy right foot, etc.
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: Jimbob on 13 December 2006, 15:03:14
Very easy one, that never hurts is put a bottle of injector cleaner in when you put petrol in next 1-2 times.
Often slightly increases mpg AND performance.

Wont fix a mechanical problem, but may help a little.
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: sir moanalot on 13 December 2006, 15:04:21
hi, i have a 2.5 v6 and get lower 20s around town so i would say 10-20 is a little low.
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: Martin_1962 on 13 December 2006, 16:38:59
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what are the best things to check to improve mpg?

thanks,   stu   8-)
Tire pressures, crap in the boot, bad DIS/wires/plugs, leaky injectors, dead a/c clutch, low auto trany fluid, heavy right foot, etc.

Need to check, heavy gas tank, no DIS, N/A, leave on, haven't checked, YES
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: Bo Bo on 13 December 2006, 17:33:19
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I was averaging around 28-30 until i had to drive home with a knackered dis pack, then it dropped to about 12 :o
Never did hear, did you get it done?.....
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: SMS01 on 16 December 2006, 00:27:28
I get about 21-22 round town, short journeys do kill v6's. Long runs on a light throttle can get about 35 on my 3.0 estate if no stop starts.

Intend to replace oil, oil filter, fuel filter and spark plugs over next week or so, fingers crossed will get slightly better mpg.
Have noticed since it has got colder that economy has dropped, was getting 24-26 over the summer months. Also noticing in the cold that the fuel cut off isn't working as readily when decelerating. Hoping it is a service item desparately in need of change.
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: Jay w on 16 December 2006, 12:19:33
on a long run i can get early 30's out of my 2.5 auto
Round town between 20/25, but i do occasionnly give it a bit of heavy right foot
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 17 December 2006, 07:48:57
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I get about 21-22 round town, short journeys do kill v6's. Long runs on a light throttle can get about 35 on my 3.0 estate if no stop starts.

Intend to replace oil, oil filter, fuel filter and spark plugs over next week or so, fingers crossed will get slightly better mpg.
Have noticed since it has got colder that economy has dropped, was getting 24-26 over the summer months. Also noticing in the cold that the fuel cut off isn't working as readily when decelerating. Hoping it is a service item desparately in need of change.

I reckon my MPG is increased on my V6 since it's got colder. The cold air helps it run more efficnently. I definately get more power in the cold.. I usually get 80mph flat out up a steep hill near me - It creeps up to 90 when it's very cold.
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: Andy B on 17 December 2006, 15:24:01
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I usually get 80mph flat out up a steep hill near me - .......
How steep is the hill?  :-?
Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 18 December 2006, 07:52:34
Bloody steep!! My old 1.1 fiesta would only just make it in 3rd....

It's 2 lanes going up, and wide, so it's a lovely place to open up the V6.

Interestingly, on the subject of MPG, I did a recent calculation. Driving very carefully, on A roads, I got 22mpg averge - about 113 miles to £20 of petrol.

Anyone confirm if they get the same out of a 2.5?

That seems on the low side. I usually get 26+

Title: Re: V6 mpg
Post by: Martin_1962 on 18 December 2006, 11:27:44
Which steep hill?

If Cleeve did 110 on a bike, but chickened out when the rear wheel slipped