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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: paolo on 30 December 2006, 19:44:30

Title: Specification Help
Post by: paolo on 30 December 2006, 19:44:30
I am bidding for an Omega brochure, but in the meantime, is there anywhere on line that gives detailed spec on the options that came with each car, such as Air Con etc etc...mine is a 'P' '97 3.0 Elite Auto...which I have yet to collect as a private plate is being swapped, aswell as the tax disc.

is there anyway of telling whether mine is the mini facelift model by looking externally?

I would love to be able to compare the spec with other models, and also find out what was standard and what was extra.

I am praying mine is a mini facelift...but I think it may not be.

Thanks
Title: Re: Specification Help
Post by: tunnie on 30 December 2006, 19:54:30
at a '97 i doubt its a mini-facelift. This came in around 1998.

General additions to the mini-facelift in 1998 are steering wheel controls upgraded trip, various other bits.

Best way to tell if you have a mini-facelift is if you have steering wheel controls.

post 1998 elites, had factory fit bose sound system.. few other things but i forget..  ::)
Title: Re: Specification Help
Post by: paolo on 30 December 2006, 19:57:30
Apparently...it has steering wheel controls....but the owner is elderly....i suspect he may be referring to the horn!
Title: Re: Specification Help
Post by: tunnie on 30 December 2006, 19:58:06
just remember some stuff, mine-facelifts with the CDX / Elite's had HID's

All of the range interior trim upgraded, including side airbags, sat nav standard on elites.
Title: Re: Specification Help
Post by: tunnie on 30 December 2006, 19:59:41
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Apparently...it has steering wheel controls....but the owner is elderly....i suspect he may be referring to the horn!

Just noticed the car and spec, 31k miles? Is that the puple/blue one on eBay? AA badge on the front grill?

Ask about controlling the radio though the steering wheel  ;)

Also look at the speaker grills, if they say Bose then its a mini facelift  :y
Title: Re: Specification Help
Post by: paolo on 30 December 2006, 20:00:53
you have ruined my xmas!!

santa has not brought me a face lift edition!

boooooooo

nevermind, i am still looking forward to getting my hands on it
Title: Re: Specification Help
Post by: TheBoy on 30 December 2006, 20:02:54
Minifacelift (Elite) will have steering wheel audio controls, CCR800 radio, HID lights, different grill etc...

On a P, very unlikely to be minifacelift......
Title: Re: Specification Help
Post by: paolo on 30 December 2006, 20:03:29
that's the one!

I have sent my deposit, so just waiting to collect after the plate swap

just 5 miles from me

i have paid over the odds...but it looked really nice

the lights look nice on the diagonal pic...not sure if xenon...i guess not

no other pics tho, and someone asked the bose and lights question, but the owner didn't know.

have i paid too much?
Title: Re: Specification Help
Post by: TheBoy on 30 December 2006, 20:05:11
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that's the one!

I have sent my deposit, so just waiting to collect after the plate swap

just 5 miles from me

i have paid over the odds...but it looked really nice

the lights look nice on the diagonal pic...not sure if xenon...i guess not

no other pics tho, and someone asked the bose and lights question, but the owner didn't know.

have i paid too much?
Post link, I should be able to tell from auction...
Title: Re: Specification Help
Post by: Markjay on 30 December 2006, 20:06:00
Another minor point - the pre-minifacelift had a Vx badge on the bbot which looked like a flat enamel badge with a black background, the minifacelift had a metalic silver coloured badge with the original body colour as background. But the minifacelift only started from 98R onwards anyway... never mind, I had a pre-minifacelift 97R for three years and it was superb!

Title: Re: Specification Help
Post by: paolo on 30 December 2006, 20:06:37
the auction number is:
330064589921

fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Specification Help
Post by: TheBoy on 30 December 2006, 20:09:00
Pictures a really crap, but I reckon those are clear headlights, so looks minifacelift to me....
Title: Re: Specification Help
Post by: paolo on 30 December 2006, 20:13:42
I am chuckling...yes, pics are not the sellers strong point.

My old beemer is due an MOT, I was working, it was 4am, so i searched for a car close to home...just stumbled across it...didn't know too much about them...then found this forum....i have read so many posts here now....best forum I have seen, friendly too.....i can't wait to get it.

I suspect i may have paid too much, but new tyres, mot, tax and shockers etc...saves in the long run....i am not sure what the market value is....

i would love it to be a mini facelift....i like the idea of a bose system with xenons...i have read all the hdd bulb threads...i might be reading them again if it is not a mini facelift
Title: Re: Specification Help
Post by: TheBoy on 30 December 2006, 20:23:00
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I am chuckling...yes, pics are not the sellers strong point.

My old beemer is due an MOT, I was working, it was 4am, so i searched for a car close to home...just stumbled across it...didn't know too much about them...then found this forum....i have read so many posts here now....best forum I have seen, friendly too.....i can't wait to get it.

I suspect i may have paid too much, but new tyres, mot, tax and shockers etc...saves in the long run....i am not sure what the market value is....

i would love it to be a mini facelift....i like the idea of a bose system with xenons...i have read all the hdd bulb threads...i might be reading them again if it is not a mini facelift
Probably is over the top price wise for a 9 yr old car, but that is stupidly low mileage.  I do hope it is 98 model yr, HIDs alone make it a better car...
Title: Re: Specification Help
Post by: Markjay on 30 December 2006, 20:34:15
The cars first regsitration is given as 24 May 1997, so i'm afraid it will not be minifacelift... my previous Omega was first registered in Oct 1997, and was pre-minifacelift...

Also... the MOT date is November, not May... so either the car has been on SORN for a while (makes sense considering the low mileage), or the first day of registration was NOT May 1997 but later, in which case you may still have a chance...

The (lady?) owner seem to know bugger all about the car... when asked about Xenons, she has no clue what these are. Also she says that the wind deflector in front of the sunroof is 'standard fitting '... I don't thnk it was...?

Either way I would take it.... pre-minifacelift or not....



Title: Re: Specification Help
Post by: tunnie on 30 December 2006, 20:51:21
yep looks like a good car, again i think its not a mini-facelift.. the grill suggests it is, but i doubt it.

Does not have HID's and looks pre mini facelift, but still cracking buy with that mileage.

A little over the odds price wise, but the mileage makes up for it, and with a very elderly owner i doubt its been thrashed!
Title: Re: Specification Help
Post by: Bernard on 30 December 2006, 20:58:11
Price is over the top but when you take in to consideration the Low miles still a Bargain.
What ever you do , Change Cambelt and Water Pump as soon as possible .
It would be real shame to Spoil such a nice car.
Recommended change is 40000 miles or 4 Years so it is LONG ! LONG ! OVERDUE !  
Try and find a reliable Garage that you can Trust not the Muppets at Vauxhall Dealerships.
Unless of you want to finish up on the hard shoulder Just 500 miles later as i did on the way to my Holidays !
Title: Re: Specification Help
Post by: Chopsdad on 30 December 2006, 21:04:30
I can't believe she is swapping a 3ltr Elite for a 4x4.  Unless it's a Shogun it'll be hard pushed to beat that Omega as a tow car.

£1800 may be a high price but it's good for another 200,000 miles!  ;)

Personally I'd change the cambelt asap - 9 year old rubber and all that  :y
Title: Re: Specification Help
Post by: paolo on 30 December 2006, 21:04:37
Many thanks for all the great advice.

Looks like the water pump and cambelt are first on the list

A forum member from WAkefield has messaged me, so i will be pm'ing him shortly, to point me in the right direction for getting this done.

I have had a diesel megane (sorry!) and a4tdi before...cambelts went on both....it cannot happen again!
Title: Re: Specification Help
Post by: Bernard on 30 December 2006, 21:11:23
May be wrong but Grill looks like its of a MV6 ?
Title: Re: Specification Help
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 30 December 2006, 21:25:31
Hope its a good one for you  :y

But personally £1800 for a nearly 10 yo car  :(
35k isnt going to do it any favours either  :(

Just my opinion....soz  :-X
Title: Re: Specification Help
Post by: TheBoy on 30 December 2006, 21:27:22
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May be wrong but Grill looks like its of a MV6 ?
No, its a minifacelift elite crosshatch grill...
Title: Re: Specification Help
Post by: tunnie on 30 December 2006, 21:34:42
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Many thanks for all the great advice.

Looks like the water pump and cambelt are first on the list

A forum member from WAkefield has messaged me, so i will be pm'ing him shortly, to point me in the right direction for getting this done.

I have had a diesel megane (sorry!) and a4tdi before...cambelts went on both....it cannot happen again!

How old is the Megane? My boss had an '03 plate 1.4 petrol version... my god the build quality was crap. Drove quite well when it was working, but had lots of annoying rattles and lots of things went wrong on it with less than 30k miles.

What made me laugh is this:

To replace the drivers side indicator bulb or headlight bulb, you need to take off the drivers side wheel and also remove the plastic trim around the wheel arch to get access!  ::) ::)

I was on the floor laughing when he ran a local garage asking for it to be done, he said "nahh sorry mate thats a dealer job"  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Specification Help
Post by: TheBoy on 30 December 2006, 21:38:24
Audi A4 rear light cluster bulbs is a dealer job according to manual...
Title: Re: Specification Help
Post by: STMO123 on 30 December 2006, 22:11:52
Wifes ZT has a little "hatch" in the wheel arch liner to get to the bulbs. Thats a wheel off job too and, as you cant see what you're doing, you have to do it by 'feel' :o