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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Eddy Matthews on 14 January 2007, 18:14:58
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After looking around the forum, I've been unable to find a listing of the various trim levels on the Omega.... I'm thinking of buying a 2002/3 car, but haven't found what the heck CD, CDX, GLS, Elite etc etc actually mean! Unless you know what these are the letters are meaningless!
Can anyone help with a listing so I know what's what please?
Regards
Eddy
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After looking around the forum, I've been unable to find a listing of the various trim levels on the Omega.... I'm thinking of buying a 2002/3 car, but haven't found what the heck CD, CDX, GLS, Elite etc etc actually mean! Unless you know what these are the letters are meaningless!
Can anyone help with a listing so I know what's what please?
Regards
Eddy
Thought their was something under FAQ or Tech Info.
Basically model range goes:
GLS
CD
CDX
Elite
MV6 is a sportier style, and fits in just above CD in facelift range.
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You're right, no trim stuff for facelifts. Hopefully someone will write something up soon...
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Thankyou.... Would anyone care to elaborate a bit further and give full details of the various facelift trim levels? I'm sure I can't be the only one that doesn't know what they are? ;)
Regards
Eddy
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Got to be honest and thought Markjay had posted up a scanned brochure....
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Got to be honest and thought Markjay had posted up a scanned brochure....
It won't be long now......
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Thanks guys....
I noticed that you don't allow images to be posted directly to this website - I can understand why, they take up HUGE amounts of space!
But, if anyone wants to post a message with links to high res scans, I could host them on my website so you can link to them.... Please PM or Email me if anyone is interested in doing that, the offer is there....
Regards
Eddy
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Thanks guys....
I noticed that you don't allow images to be posted directly to this website - I can understand why, they take up HUGE amounts of space!
But, if anyone wants to post a message with links to high res scans, I could host them on my website so you can link to them.... Please PM or Email me if anyone is interested in doing that, the offer is there....
Regards
Eddy
Its not the space, but the bandwidth, why we don't currently allow images. We recommend the free photobucket.com as a picture host...
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Okay, bandwidth isn't a problem for me either, so the offer still stands.... Admittedly you cannot upload yourself, you'd have to send me the photo via email, and I would reply with a link to the image so you can post it. Not an ideal solution, but as I said the offer is there...
Regards
Eddy
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Okay, bandwidth isn't a problem for me either, so the offer still stands.... Admittedly you cannot upload yourself, you'd have to send me the photo via email, and I would reply with a link to the image so you can post it. Not an ideal solution, but as I said the offer is there...
Regards
Eddy
Thanks for the offer. Some users here do host on their own webspace, though as I say, we've found photobucket.com to be excellent...
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I moved up from a GLS to CD for - heated front seats & dual climate control & different alloys.
MarkJay is the man with the info though so I'll say no more :-X
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I moved up from a GLS to CD for - heated front seats & dual climate control & different alloys.
MarkJay is the man with the info though so I'll say no more :-X
All facelifts have dual climate...
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I moved up from a GLS to CD for - heated front seats & dual climate control & different alloys.
MarkJay is the man with the info though so I'll say no more :-X
All facelifts have dual climate...
Must've been thinking about my Veccy :-[ I bought this one cos the dealer knocked a third off new price and threw in free mats ;) but that was nearly 4 years ago and my mind isn't what it used to be. CD has clear indicator lenses - GLS orange - I do remember that. ;)
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I moved up from a GLS to CD for - heated front seats & dual climate control & different alloys.
MarkJay is the man with the info though so I'll say no more :-X
All facelifts have dual climate...
Must've been thinking about my Veccy :-[ I bought this one cos the dealer knocked a third off new price and threw in free mats ;) but that was nearly 4 years ago and my mind isn't what it used to be. CD has clear indicator lenses - GLS orange - I do remember that. ;)
I though all facelifts had clear indicators (could be wrong) - sure your gls wasn't prefacelift?
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I moved up from a GLS to CD for - heated front seats & dual climate control & different alloys.
MarkJay is the man with the info though so I'll say no more :-X
All facelifts have dual climate...
Must've been thinking about my Veccy :-[ I bought this one cos the dealer knocked a third off new price and threw in free mats ;) but that was nearly 4 years ago and my mind isn't what it used to be. CD has clear indicator lenses - GLS orange - I do remember that. ;)
I though all facelifts had clear indicators (could be wrong) - sure your gls wasn't prefacelift?
Sorry TB I meant the side repeaters - previous was W reg with stainless polished alloys.
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I moved up from a GLS to CD for - heated front seats & dual climate control & different alloys.
MarkJay is the man with the info though so I'll say no more :-X
All facelifts have dual climate...
Must've been thinking about my Veccy :-[ I bought this one cos the dealer knocked a third off new price and threw in free mats ;) but that was nearly 4 years ago and my mind isn't what it used to be. CD has clear indicator lenses - GLS orange - I do remember that. ;)
I though all facelifts had clear indicators (could be wrong) - sure your gls wasn't prefacelift?
Sorry TB I meant the side repeaters - previous was W reg with stainless polished alloys.
Ahh, right :y
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from memory...
don't bother with anything less than a cdx; not much extra to pay for the used market but loads of toys, anyway... for the facelifts from 2002
cd - electric windows x 4; electric mirrors, six speaker stereo with single cd player, climate control (inc air conditioning), trip computer, alloy wheels
cdx - as cd PLUS, heated front seats, electric seats, xenon headlamps, electric sunroof, better alloys, cd player with 4 disc magazine, cruise control
elite - every toy going nearly - as cdx PLUS - electric memory seats, rear blind (up to 52 plate then removed), leather interior, sat nav system, heated rear seats, automatic dipping rear view mirror.
The 2.6 or 3.0/3.2 come with traction control as standard.
Don't bother with the MV6 since this looks sportier on the outside (sportier alloy and spoiler) but closer to the GLS/CD spec inside.
If you click in 'used car specification' withing google.co.uk , check out the virgin site about two options down and follow prompts to used car specifications - selecting 'compare' when you've selected two trim models.
Hope this helps,
Keith
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Don't bother with the MV6 since this looks sportier on the outside (sportier alloy and spoiler) but closer to the GLS/CD spec inside.
Personally I'd much rather have an MV6 over a CDX, the only things the MV6 misses from the CDX are cruise control (very easy retrofit on the facelift, basically just needs a new indicator stalk and possibly activated) and electric sunroof (which strangely the prefacelift MV6 has). On the other hand, the MV6 has much better sports seats, better suspension, more likely to have a manual gearbox, and it doesn't have the horrid (IMO) plastic "wood effect" trim.
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Don't bother with the MV6 since this looks sportier on the outside (sportier alloy and spoiler) but closer to the GLS/CD spec inside.
Personally I'd much rather have an MV6 over a CDX, the only things the MV6 misses from the CDX are cruise control (very easy retrofit on the facelift, basically just needs a new indicator stalk and possibly activated) and electric sunroof (which strangely the prefacelift MV6 has). On the other hand, the MV6 has much better sports seats, better suspension, more likely to have a manual gearbox, and it doesn't have the horrid (IMO) plastic "wood effect" trim.
f/l mv6 also has the rather nasty 2005 cdr player rather than the nicer 2006 4 disc changer...
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My CD has heated seats. Don't know if they were fitted as an option, but I'm sure they were standard on this trim level.
When I went looking for an Omega, I settled on a CD Auto as it has Climate (man's finest invention!) and Heated seats (man's third finest invention after the dishwasher). Fitted Cruise later and now have everything I really need except a built in chauffeur. [smiley=smiley.gif]
Toys are good, but it's just more to go wrong. If you don't need 'em, don't have 'em!
I've seen police facelifts on TV with orange rear indicators. Is this the Elite badging and big V6 but lower GLS trim spec (they always seem to have steel wheels with trims as well).
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My CD doesn't have Xenons :'(, nor a sun roof, but I fitted a CD changer and cruise.
Really want a Y32SE for it though!
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f/l mv6 also has the rather nasty 2005 cdr player rather than the nicer 2006 4 disc changer...
I consider them all to be junk anyway, usually the first thing I change when I buy a new car is to fit a decent head unit, CD changer or not as the sound quality is usually woeful. It's interesting though in that's another feature of the facelift MV6 that is lower spec than the pre-facelift (which gets 6 CD changer as standard). So other than the electric sunroof and CD changer, is there anything else they dropped from the MV6 spec?
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f/l mv6 also has the rather nasty 2005 cdr player rather than the nicer 2006 4 disc changer...
I consider them all to be junk anyway, usually the first thing I change when I buy a new car is to fit a decent head unit, CD changer or not as the sound quality is usually woeful. It's interesting though in that's another feature of the facelift MV6 that is lower spec than the pre-facelift (which gets 6 CD changer as standard). So other than the electric sunroof and CD changer, is there anything else they dropped from the MV6 spec?
I'm old enough now that I don't really want to go changing head units :P
Prefacelift MV6 is CDx spec minus cruise, plus HIDs
Facelift MV6 is CD spec, plus HIDs
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Plus sports seats and suspension on both I believe. Both of these I consider to be a big plus, I'd rather have MV6 sports seats with cloth than the leather armchairs of the Elite. Certain models have best of both sports leather of course ;)
As for the head unit, my ears bleed when I listen to most factory units. I'm mostly past the whole "modifying" thing cos it's way too much hassle, but when it comes to audio I simply can't enjoy doing any length of journey with crap quality sound. Upgrading the head unit makes a huge difference, followed by a small sub with a low crossover point to keep it subtle but effective. In the past I'd have gone to all the hassle of amping and upgrading the front component speakers too but I can't be bothered these days.
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Plus sports seats and suspension on both I believe. Both of these I consider to be a big plus, I'd rather have MV6 sports seats with cloth than the leather armchairs of the Elite. Certain models have best of both sports leather of course ;)
As for the head unit, my ears bleed when I listen to most factory units. I'm mostly past the whole "modifying" thing cos it's way too much hassle, but when it comes to audio I simply can't enjoy doing any length of journey with crap quality sound. Upgrading the head unit makes a huge difference, followed by a small sub with a low crossover point to keep it subtle but effective. In the past I'd have gone to all the hassle of amping and upgrading the front component speakers too but I can't be bothered these days.
Yes the lowering and seats are standard, I was pointing out what one had, and other didn't, but correct, the sports seats etc may be a factor for some (me included). Actually, Marks_DTM and I are trying to work out if the prefacelift MV6 is lowered :o
As to the wireless, Radio 1 sounds crap whatever the hardware ::)
I too have done all the amp stuff in past - 17/18yrs ago ;)
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As long as it receives SAGA loud and clear - who cares ;D
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I'm afraid that I'm now of an age where sound quality isn't a prime concern.... As long as it will pick up Radio 2 and play the odd CD that'll do for me.
Thw whole point of asking about the various trim levels is so that I know what to expect, and also (more importantly), so I can recognise if a car has been rebadged - It has happened to me in the past where I've bought a car only to find it had been rebadged and was actually a lower spec model - Sadly there are far too many dishonest people out there!
Regards
Eddy
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I'm confused, I thought that there were only two versions! upto early 1999 and then big bonnet version!
Please enlighten!
Dave C
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I'm confused, I thought that there were only two versions! upto early 1999 and then big bonnet version!
Please enlighten!
Dave C
There are two major versions, the ones that you point out. But the first revision had a "mini-facelift" in 1998, when some things were updated such as side airbags, projector headlights (HID on MV6 and Elite), audio controls on the steering wheel, adjustable steering column, etc. Don't quote me on all those, I'm sure one of our gurus will be along to correct any mistakes soon ;)
Am I right in saying that the retail MV6 (i.e. not ex-cop GLS spec ones) came in with the mini-facelift, so are all mini-facelift spec or newer?
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Am I right in saying that the retail MV6 (i.e. not ex-cop GLS spec ones) came in with the mini-facelift, so are all mini-facelift spec or newer?
Yes
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OK! so fundamentally just the two versions, but bit's n bobs added! OK, got that, that makes my T reg version one facelift then...
Cheers DC
P.S.
To: The Boy, got the hang of the Avitar, cheers for your help with that..
DC
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@ Dave ... well if your pic is right then you've got a mini-facelift - same as my old one - proper facelift has window switches on the driver's door, yours will be on the centre console either side of the gearstick ... confused? ;D
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f/l mv6 also has the rather nasty 2005 cdr player rather than the nicer 2006 4 disc changer...
I consider them all to be junk anyway, usually the first thing I change when I buy a new car is to fit a decent head unit, CD changer or not as the sound quality is usually woeful. It's interesting though in that's another feature of the facelift MV6 that is lower spec than the pre-facelift (which gets 6 CD changer as standard). So other than the electric sunroof and CD changer, is there anything else they dropped from the MV6 spec?
I'm old enough now that I don't really want to go changing head units :P
Prefacelift MV6 is CDx spec minus cruise, plus HIDs
Facelift MV6 is CD spec, plus HIDs
Didn't I spot a tape player in yours TB? ;D
FYI My facelift has heated seats as standard. :y
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Got to be honest and thought Markjay had posted up a scanned brochure....
I did.... over there:
http://www.cavweb-forums.co.uk/showthread.php?p=984905
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There was also a mini update before the mini facelift.
Within N-P reg
GLS got air con, alloys, lost sun roof
Non CC heater dials changed different directions in different positions.
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f/l mv6 also has the rather nasty 2005 cdr player rather than the nicer 2006 4 disc changer...
I consider them all to be junk anyway, usually the first thing I change when I buy a new car is to fit a decent head unit, CD changer or not as the sound quality is usually woeful. It's interesting though in that's another feature of the facelift MV6 that is lower spec than the pre-facelift (which gets 6 CD changer as standard). So other than the electric sunroof and CD changer, is there anything else they dropped from the MV6 spec?
I'm old enough now that I don't really want to go changing head units :P
Prefacelift MV6 is CDx spec minus cruise, plus HIDs
Facelift MV6 is CD spec, plus HIDs
Didn't I spot a tape player in yours TB? ;D
Yup.
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So looking at the list, now that I have Cruise on my CD a CDX would have given me Xenons, a fold flat front seat, 4 disc CD & Sunroof.
As I don't need fold flat, don't want a sunroof and can only play 1 CD at a time it's only the Xenon's I'm missing - I wonder what the cost difference was when new - £2k?
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Got to be honest and thought Markjay had posted up a scanned brochure....
I did.... over there:
http://www.cavweb-forums.co.uk/showthread.php?p=984905
Thanks for that Mark - Exactly what I was looking for!
Regards
Eddy
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taking gls as basic price,
in addition to this cost,
cd +£1150
cdx =cd + 2000
elite = cdx + 2595 (without leather).
using 2000 prices on 2.5 V6 24v;
gls = 20925
cd = 22075
cdx = 24075
elite = 26650
elite = 27650 (with leather)
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taking gls as basic price,
in addition to this cost,
cd +£1150
cdx =cd + 2000
elite = cdx + 2595 (without leather).
using 2000 prices on 2.5 V6 24v;
gls = 20925
cd = 22075
cdx = 24075
elite = 26650
elite = 27650 (with leather)
My 2003 Cd was under £20k new - retailed at about £19600 IIRC