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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: highlorddave on 17 February 2007, 12:28:26

Title: Water in Oil
Post by: highlorddave on 17 February 2007, 12:28:26
hey guys,

i brought an omega recently and having nothing but trouble, i just had the rocker cover leak sorted and HT leads replaced because of the damage the oil had done to them and now i have a "coolant level" error message.

i checked the water it looks ok then i check the oil and its all white  :'(

I am at my wits end, i have no money left after the last bout of repairs and now this, i have not even had the car a month (private sale thus no warrenty).

you think maybe head gasket or oil cooler, whats the cost?

feel so depressed now, no money and no car....... what a month

Elite 2.5 V6 '99
Title: Re: Water in Oil
Post by: rpont on 17 February 2007, 12:48:40
If it's mayo on the dipstick it sounds like a head gasket gone. With the oil cooler you usually only get oil in the water due to the higher pressure of the oil in the cooler.

If it's just mayo in the filler oil tube it's pretty much normal. It takes a long while for the filler neck to get hot and in winter it sometimes never does so the condensation there doesn't get evaporated.
Title: Re: Water in Oil
Post by: highlorddave on 17 February 2007, 12:57:28
thanks for the prompt reply, it is in the filler, but there is ALOT of it. i checked when i brought the car and it was fine, now a few days later its really bad :(
Title: Re: Water in Oil
Post by: Matchless on 17 February 2007, 13:12:46
Clean out what you can then go for a ride out somewhere, far enough to really get the oil heated up properly. Hopefully this will drive off any moisture in the oil from short journeys and put your mind at rest.
Some oils seem more prone to making mayo. I stick with Vx full synth or semi synth and have a small amount of mayo when commuting (7 miles only so not hot) this clears as soon as it does 30 miles.
Title: Re: Water in Oil
Post by: highlorddave on 17 February 2007, 13:37:47
cool, i hope you guys are right :)
i'll mark the water level with a pencil and take the car on a long run tommorow, hopefully all will be well
Title: Re: Water in Oil
Post by: Auto Addict on 17 February 2007, 15:16:28
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cool, i hope you guys are right :)
i'll mark the water level with a pencil and take the car on a long run tommorow, hopefully all will be well

Let us know what happens.
Title: Re: Water in Oil
Post by: JasonH on 17 February 2007, 17:36:06
Coolant level warning is often the sensor connection under the expansion tank. Unclip the tank and clean up the connections. Bit of WD40 and should be fine.
Title: Re: Water in Oil
Post by: highlorddave on 18 February 2007, 16:56:29
well guys seems maybe good news and some bad.

The maybe good news is my missus took the car today to see friends (25 mile round trip) and the mayo that was in the filler has not come back any worse, there is also no mayo on the dipstick. Does this sound promising?

The bad news is she absolutly hates the car and flat out refuses to drive it again, which means im probably going to be looking for a smaller car in the near future :'(
Title: Re: Water in Oil
Post by: Auto Addict on 18 February 2007, 22:27:26
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well guys seems maybe good news and some bad.

The maybe good news is my missus took the car today to see friends (25 mile round trip) and the mayo that was in the filler has not come back any worse, there is also no mayo on the dipstick. Does this sound promising?

The bad news is she absolutly hates the car and flat out refuses to drive it again, which means im probably going to be looking for a smaller car in the near future :'(

No..No..No...change the wife instead ;D
Title: Re: Water in Oil
Post by: tunnie on 18 February 2007, 23:25:46
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well guys seems maybe good news and some bad.

The maybe good news is my missus took the car today to see friends (25 mile round trip) and the mayo that was in the filler has not come back any worse, there is also no mayo on the dipstick. Does this sound promising?

The bad news is she absolutly hates the car and flat out refuses to drive it again, which means im probably going to be looking for a smaller car in the near future :'(

No..No..No...change the wife instead ;D

Absolutely! What is there to hate? Its fast and comfy!
Title: Re: Water in Oil
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 19 February 2007, 02:19:33
Is it worse than THIS:

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/DSC02944.jpg)

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/DSC02941.jpg)

These pics were taken of my Omega V6 oil neck, and at this time of year, it is completely normal. This was particularly sludgy in the oil filler neck because of the castrol oil I was using.

Please answer this one Q - is there mayonnaise on your dipstick? If yes, then it's a potential HG failure, if no, then you're probably in luck, just keep a close eye. You will help reduce it (if it's not HG) by cleaning out the breather system to reduce crankcase pressure (about £3 for carb cleaner!) - and also do an oil and filter change.

Coolant leak is probably Heater Bypass Valve - seperate issue. Have a look and feel around the HBV 1) with engine running, don't burn your hand 2) just after engine has been stopped .. and see if there's any wet. Or any signs of coolant spraying around at the back of the engine.

Is it missfiring? Please don't panic, there's no reason straight away to believe it's fatal.

Title: Re: Water in Oil
Post by: highlorddave on 19 February 2007, 17:14:27
its not as bad as the picture, and the dipstick is black, so i guess it is normal.  :y
thanks guys, i was dead sure i was in for spending more money that i currently dont have.

The bad news is the missus wont drive the car so you may spot it in the used car section soon when i get the log book back  :'(


Title: Re: Water in Oil
Post by: STMO123 on 19 February 2007, 19:13:50
I dont know what your wife has driven in the past but an omega takes a bit of getting used to. Make a deal with her, let her drive it for a month, if she still doesn't like it then divorce her >:(
Title: Re: Water in Oil
Post by: highlorddave on 19 February 2007, 19:55:57
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I dont know what your wife has driven in the past but an omega takes a bit of getting used to. Make a deal with her, let her drive it for a month, if she still doesn't like it then divorce her >:(

ha ha ha ha, she is reading over my shoulder so i think access to this website is going to be disapearing along with the car :s
i fear i may become the victim of domestic violence, so if you have not heard from me with 2 days alert the authorities  :y
Title: Re: Water in Oil
Post by: Tony H on 19 February 2007, 21:04:15
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I dont know what your wife has driven in the past but an omega takes a bit of getting used to. Make a deal with her, let her drive it for a month, if she still doesn't like it then divorce her >:(
My missus didn't like big cars she didn't see the point in them and wasn't to impreesed about the Omega after a couple of weeks though she had a change of heart :y she loves it now especially all the whistles and bells of the the Elite 8-)
Title: Re: Water in Oil
Post by: ians on 19 February 2007, 23:48:22
My misses loves the Omega too.  I guess the length takes a bit of getting used to but if she can get over that then the manouverability is much better than many small (FWD) cars for parking etc.
Title: Re: Water in Oil
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 20 February 2007, 08:26:50
10 meter truning circle is the winner on the Omega....thats better than a Fiesta.....my other half wont drive small cars anymore.....she likes the smoothness, quiet and power of the Barge....
Title: Re: Water in Oil
Post by: highlorddave on 05 March 2007, 15:40:25
well its a couple of weeks on and the missus still does not drive the omega, she is clearly not feeling the love for the car that i do :'(

No doubt this fiasco will end in my owning of a small french car or worse, maybe a diesel something or other. Anyways im going to sell the car and will put a note in the 2nd hand section so you chaps can have a look before i stick it the paper.

I mainly wanted to dig up this old thread to thank the previous posters who put my mind at rest about my concerns of mayo in the filler, but it looks like i wont be back to these forums untill i manage change my missus :D

thanks guys
Dave
Title: Re: Water in Oil
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 05 March 2007, 15:48:21
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well its a couple of weeks on and the missus still does not drive the omega,

Bloody minded creatures arnt they  ;D....has she driven it since.....

Get her a Ka, nice dangerous rattly thing with no go and no room and little crash protection!
Title: Re: Water in Oil
Post by: Andy B on 05 March 2007, 15:57:37
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well its a couple of weeks on and the missus still does not drive the omega,  ....

That'd be fine by me!  ;) I drive the Omega - she drives her Astra.
You need to put your hand down with a firm foot!!  ::) The silent meals will only last so long.  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Water in Oil
Post by: The Barge Captain on 06 March 2007, 09:35:10
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well its a couple of weeks on and the missus still does not drive the omega,

Bloody minded creatures arnt they  ;D....has she driven it since.....

Get her a Ka, nice dangerous rattly thing with no go and no room and little crash protection!
Hmmm.  Make sure her life insurance is paid up, buy her a Ka, then sit back and wait.  There might be enough money to get a new missus and a 3.0 Elite  ;D
Title: Re: Water in Oil
Post by: Gaffers on 06 March 2007, 09:47:52
My wife loves treavelling in the omega (she actually told me she'd be upset if I got rid of it) but she would never drive it even though shes a yank and obviously used to ma'hoosive cars.

So I got her a 214 banger and some life insurance  :D