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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Danny on 03 March 2007, 18:56:18
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[size=13]Hello, As title, I have a small leak of what looks like water, has no smell, and didnt burn my hands after any length of time, so I presume it is only water![/size]
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[size=13]It appears to be coming from near the above arrowed region, somewhere under the battery area[/size]
(http://www.faceparty.com/pb/1829/images/projekt-kahn_24795121.jpg)
[size=13]This is the view from underneath the front bumper, where I think the liquid is dripping off from[/size]
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[size=13]This bit is what my dad said was the "front cross member" which means nothing to me, I dont know anything about engines, the dark patch in the circle is where the liquid is running off, south eastwards on foto, taken from infront of the car, you can just see the edge of radiator on the left of shot[/size]
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[size=13]This is the patch it left, from a couple of hours standing, which suggests to me it is very minor! Obviously i'm gonna get it checked out anyway but i'd appreciate any response if anyone knows whether it could be a serious thing thats leaking or maybe if its just a tiny hole in a not too costly bit of piping! I should add that I noticed this about a week ago but dismissed it as i'd just had the car washed, noticed it again today. I use it daily and have had no car trouble at all[/size]
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Dunno, don't think there are any water pipes under the battery, it does look to be near the air con pipes though....don't panic I could be wrong.
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If you were right, would this be a pricey repair job?
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The only other thing I'm thinking is it could be a screen wash pipe, not sure where they feed.
Wait for some more replies from people more knowledgeable than myself, before doing anything.
Having thought about it, don't think it's air con.
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If its antifreeze, it looks like rad. If screenwash, there are a few pipes behind depending on saloon/estate and headlamp washers. So on your GLS, one pipe to windscreen washer :p. Seriously, it could be pump isn't fully seated - see cleaning the gauze post in Maintenence Guides...
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Have you been running the climate system lately, as it could just be condensation, from the silver pipe next to your first arrow, which is not uncommon and absolutely normal. Try and catch fresh, or mop up some with white paper and see if it has any colour. Screen wash is often blue and smells sweet, antifreeze could be red/blue or even green. No colour, no smell - probably just water.
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I have had my climate control running. i'll get it looked at anyway to be on the safe side! it appeared to be just water, having got some on my hand and some on paper, no colour, no smell, no acidic type effects on my skin
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Sounds like condensation off the air con, nothing to worry about quite normal, will possibly disappear, just keep your eye on it.
If it get worse, repost.
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well it continued to drip and the patch double, although it took over 10 hours to double (overnight), so that would suggest to me maybe not condensation running off it
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But if it's clean water, i.e. no anti-freeze or sceenwash, it can't be anything else.
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thanks, its much appreciated.
i'll take it to my usual garage to be on the safe side where someone can stick their head under it tomorrow
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Presumably, there is screen wash in your screen wash bottle, not just water? (and same for coolant)
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I dont think its condensation....too much there on the ground
As TB suggests is there only water in the washer bottle or coolant? ( i would hope no one drives around with no antifreeze)
Im betting youve got a leak from the washer bottle pipework.
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Ok I had the car looked at and they said they couldnt find any leaks whatsoever, it was probably just condensation but i have a noisy water pump! My cambelt was changed at 64530 miles (a previous owner) as recorded in the (stamped) service book but no actual reciepts for it came with the car. The car now has 79,000 miles on so I am considering a complete cambelt job including pulleys/tensioners/water pump. Would anyone agree that this is the best thing to do seeing as there was no proof of the tensioners and water pump being done at the time the cambelt was recorded as done?
The water pump is really noisy and the garage said there's no guarantee it could make it to 100k even if the belt's fine
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if a 4 pot (looking at piccies I guess it is), the water pump is cambelt driven. If pump noisey, change it, and do belt/tensioners at same time...
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cheers
they did say at the garage that the pump is driven by the cambelt, showed me diagrams too!
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It needs doing immediately, from the sound of it.
Make sure that only genuine Vx parts are used.
If you are not having it done at a dealers, make sure that they have the correct cam locking tool.
Also, get them to change the auxiliary belt as well.
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it'll be done at a NetworkQ garage, I was gonna get it serviced in may (a year after its last one) should i just get the whole lot done at once?
how much is a full cambelt job gonna cost me d'ya reckon? they said they'd give me a price today but never rang me back!
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it'll be done at a NetworkQ garage, I was gonna get it serviced in may (a year after its last one) should i just get the whole lot done at once?
how much is a full cambelt job gonna cost me d'ya reckon? they said they'd give me a price today but never rang me back!
Ouch!
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it'll be done at a NetworkQ garage, I was gonna get it serviced in may (a year after its last one) should i just get the whole lot done at once?
how much is a full cambelt job gonna cost me d'ya reckon? they said they'd give me a price today but never rang me back!
Ouch!
could you elaborate on that? ;D
i have the cash, i'd rather just do it to get the car perfect..
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it'll be done at a NetworkQ garage, I was gonna get it serviced in may (a year after its last one) should i just get the whole lot done at once?
how much is a full cambelt job gonna cost me d'ya reckon? they said they'd give me a price today but never rang me back!
Ouch!
could you elaborate on that? ;D
i have the cash, i'd rather just do it to get the car perfect..
Ouch! Ouch!
Parts should be in the region £100/£120 I think, + 1.1/2 hours labour.
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i'll draw out £900 then!
I thought it would be worse, having said that they could still upset me with a "mask and stripey jumper" figure!
including the service quote they gave me on monday i should be lookin at about £400 if they're kind, which i'd be quite happy to pay
some may call me a mug...?
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Most of the blokes on here would do it for you, and snatch your hand off for half that ;D
It isn't a difficult job, get a Haynes manual, a few tools, and have a go yourself, with the guidance of this site.
A first timer should be able to do it in about 3 hours.
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Probably a stupid comment, but, is your battery OK? It could be battery acid coming from the overflow... Also, the radiator drain is under there,, would suspect coloured fluid as previously stated though!!!
DC
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no evidence of leakage found from anywhere, leading me to believe just condensation. it was clean water
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no evidence of leakage found from anywhere, leading me to believe just condensation. it was clean water
I am probably wrong.....but i never seen condensation leave a leak like that!.....ok yes after a few hours.....but you said it was twice the size patch in the morning.....any condensation would have evaporated and dried by then.....im not convinced :-/
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i'll keep my eye on it, i'm also gonna get a second opinion from a different garage
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i'll draw out £900 then!
I thought it would be worse, having said that they could still upset me with a "mask and stripey jumper" figure!
including the service quote they gave me on monday i should be lookin at about £400 if they're kind, which i'd be quite happy to pay
some may call me a mug...?
400 quid sounds lika a reasonable price IF it includes the water pump and the auxilliary belt. It's an easy enough job, but I had mine serviced at a garage anyway a few weeks ago, just to get the freakin' service stamp in the booklet. Makes the car easier to sell later on. But next time I'll save my money and do it myself.
A lot of people have said this already: the water can't really be coming from the water pump if it has no smell or colour. Are you sure you're not having just plain water in the washer container?
Ludvig
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JUST A THOUGHT
Is the car when parked slightly down on the nearside ie camber of road, nearside in the gutter say.
If so this drip ie pool overnight could be condensation from the bonnet area etc running down the channel and making its way to the lowest point ie above the nearside headlight and running from there to the ground about were you are seeing it.
Park the otherway round ie offside down and see if its still coming from the same spot.
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yeah i live on a slight slope and the camber has an effect on my vehicle position too, making that front corner the lower point