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Title: Smell of oil
Post by: TheBoy on 23 March 2007, 08:49:52
For the second time in 2 days I have smelt oil whilst driving.

I guess one of the cam covers has let go for some reason - though breathers are clear.

If its passenger side, I have never done it, as I always need a spare pair of hands to do that side.

If its drivers side, it was because I used green snot, as that was what the dealer said I needed (and it was before I knew better).

I shall have a look at lunchtime.
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: Auto Addict on 23 March 2007, 08:55:20
If you need a spare pair of hands, count me in.
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: TheBoy on 23 March 2007, 09:01:28
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If you need a spare pair of hands, count me in.
Thanks :y

I will check which side it is at lunchtime...
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: ClarCE on 23 March 2007, 09:26:56
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For the second time in 2 days I have smelt oil whilst driving.

I guess one of the cam covers has let go for some reason - though breathers are clear.

If its passenger side, I have never done it, as I always need a spare pair of hands to do that side.

If its drivers side, it was because I used green snot, as that was what the dealer said I needed (and it was before I knew better).

I shall have a look at lunchtime.

Unlucky TB - I've only just shifted that smell after cleaning off what I could see after doing the covers.  Hope its not too bad.. Could be something else I guess, but this would be the usual suspect..
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: TheBoy on 23 March 2007, 11:02:13
I hope its just one side, as I should have the parts to do one side in the garage....
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: ClarCE on 23 March 2007, 11:11:30
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I hope its just one side, as I should have the parts to do one side in the garage....

I'm doing r.welfare's from the forum here tomorrow, + breathers + aux belt tensioner..

This'll be my fourth time in three weeks!
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: tunnie on 23 March 2007, 12:04:16
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For the second time in 2 days I have smelt oil whilst driving.

I guess one of the cam covers has let go for some reason - though breathers are clear.

If its passenger side, I have never done it, as I always need a spare pair of hands to do that side.

If its drivers side, it was because I used green snot, as that was what the dealer said I needed (and it was before I knew better).

I shall have a look at lunchtime.

I shall be back in Brackley next weekend, so if u need a hand  :y
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: TheBoy on 23 March 2007, 12:08:00
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For the second time in 2 days I have smelt oil whilst driving.

I guess one of the cam covers has let go for some reason - though breathers are clear.

If its passenger side, I have never done it, as I always need a spare pair of hands to do that side.

If its drivers side, it was because I used green snot, as that was what the dealer said I needed (and it was before I knew better).

I shall have a look at lunchtime.

I shall be back in Brackley next weekend, so if u need a hand  :y
May take you up on that :y

I'm off to check now....
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: TheBoy on 23 March 2007, 12:20:12
Looks like passenger side  :(

Seems to be coming from the bolts area, though possibly coming from gasjet itself, hard to tell. Certainly oily around the tops of the cam covers....
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: tunnie on 23 March 2007, 12:22:00
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Looks like passenger side  :(

Seems to be coming from the bolts area, though possibly coming from gasjet itself, hard to tell. Certainly oily around the tops of the cam covers....

Bugger!

Like i said i should be back next weekend, although my project will be handed in on Thursday, i belive a few drinks maybe consumed thursday & friday night  ::)
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: TheBoy on 23 March 2007, 12:24:20
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Looks like passenger side  :(

Seems to be coming from the bolts area, though possibly coming from gasjet itself, hard to tell. Certainly oily around the tops of the cam covers....

Bugger!

Like i said i should be back next weekend, although my project will be handed in on Thursday, i belive a few drinks maybe consumed thursday & friday night  ::)
I may have to get it done before then, based on the fact I am busy next Saturday, and it is very wet on the top of my covers  :'(
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 March 2007, 12:26:30
Check the oil filler neck seal......

Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: TheBoy on 23 March 2007, 12:30:25
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Check the oil filler neck seal......

I think I gave my last seal away, so must get one anyway.

Though, tbh, it looks as if it is coming from the bolts....
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 March 2007, 12:32:50
Easy enough to change as long as you remove the wiring loom from its tray.....
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: TheBoy on 23 March 2007, 12:37:25
Just had another look (as M_DTM got me thinking), and yes, there is oil around the filler base. Its always possible I spilt some last time I changed the oil, but I normally have kitchen roll all around filler if I don't use a funnel...

However, also seems to be oily around middle bolt over inlet cam...
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: Auto Addict on 23 March 2007, 14:04:07
If you don't do it this weekend, I'm available Tuesday and Wednesday if that's any help.

Monday at a push.
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: ians on 23 March 2007, 17:02:03
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I hope its just one side, as I should have the parts to do one side in the garage....

I'm doing r.welfare's from the forum here tomorrow, + breathers + aux belt tensioner..

This'll be my fourth time in three weeks!

Chris - does Richard know what time of day you usually work on cars ;)
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: TheBoy on 23 March 2007, 20:16:23
I will be popping in to see M_DTM tomorrow morning, I will let him confirm my suspicions that the cover needs to come off, and its not something as simple as the filler seal....
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: Gaffers on 23 March 2007, 21:22:06
I just did the passenger side myself today post exercise.  I used some paracord to create the necessary room to get the cover back in without dislodging the new gasket. Taking the tray off the loom defo works.

Jobs a gudun
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: r.welfare on 24 March 2007, 00:10:30
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I hope its just one side, as I should have the parts to do one side in the garage....

I'm doing r.welfare's from the forum here tomorrow, + breathers + aux belt tensioner..

This'll be my fourth time in three weeks!

Chris - does Richard know what time of day you usually work on cars ;)

He tells me 10.30 tomorrow - I've spent all day changing cambelt, brake pads and servicing a Mazda 323 so might not have the energy for an 'all nighter'!

Have you braved your cambelt change yet Ian?
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: ians on 26 March 2007, 12:22:36
Yep - cambelt done on Saturday.  Can breathe easier now.

The old one was very polished with some slight cracking on the outside, and some crap was coming out of the upper roller bearings - don't know if this is expected, but glad to have got it changed.

Found it next to impossible to allign the crank marks on the new belt with the sprocket,  and it was a bit of a bastard getting it on the cam sprockets - 2 and 4 seemed to be half a tooth out from 1 and 3.

Next job is the thermostat as temp needle scarcely moves off the bottom at the moment.

Cheers,

Ian
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: ClarCE on 26 March 2007, 12:31:58
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Yep - cambelt done on Saturday.  Can breathe easier now.

The old one was very polished with some slight cracking on the outside, and some crap was coming out of the upper roller bearings - don't know if this is expected, but glad to have got it changed.

Found it next to impossible to allign the crank marks on the new belt with the sprocket,  and it was a bit of a bastard getting it on the cam sprockets - 2 and 4 seemed to be half a tooth out from 1 and 3.

Next job is the thermostat as temp needle scarcely moves off the bottom at the moment.

Cheers,

Ian

No all nighters, finished up about 7:30 after plugging everything in the right way around, that paperclip test is darn useful!

When you doing your thermostat mate?  I've got a new one already to go, bit scared tho - removing the big pipe that goes to the block, and which o-rings I need is the worry..
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 26 March 2007, 13:55:00
If your talking about the transfer pipe....just buy a new one...its only a tenner with the O rings....
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: ClarCE on 26 March 2007, 15:31:08
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If your talking about the transfer pipe....just buy a new one...its only a tenner with the O rings....

So which of these bits do you reckon I should get?  I've got the stat + an o-ring it came with, + 1 more o-ring..

(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u24/ClarCE/stat.jpg)

Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 26 March 2007, 15:43:44
12.....

I bought one for mine...surprisingly cheap.....
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: ClarCE on 26 March 2007, 15:59:51
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12.....

I bought one for mine...surprisingly cheap.....

Am I going to get coolant everywhere too?  Cheers for answering my raft of questions today!
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 26 March 2007, 16:29:02
Not if you drain the rad first......
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: ClarCE on 26 March 2007, 16:35:37
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Not if you drain the rad first......

Excellent, cheers for all that - I'll be attempting it next week at some point I reckon, or perhaps on the bank holiday..
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: ians on 26 March 2007, 19:15:53
Mark et al,  

The book of lies makes this job sound straightforward, but I'm sure I have read elsewhere that its a 'mare.

Having had a quick look access to the transfer pipe looks tight at best.

Can you advise on likely issues, pitfalls etc?

and why do you recommend buying a new transfer pipe - do they deteriorate/get damaged?
and do you buy the thermostat in its housing or is the inside replacable?

Chris - how much was your 'stat?  (might take you up on your offer to lend your TC - and put faces to names)

Cheers,

Ian
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: ClarCE on 26 March 2007, 20:17:11
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Mark et al,  

The book of lies makes this job sound straightforward, but I'm sure I have read elsewhere that its a 'mare.

Having had a quick look access to the transfer pipe looks tight at best.

Can you advise on likely issues, pitfalls etc?

and why do you recommend buying a new transfer pipe - do they deteriorate/get damaged?
and do you buy the thermostat in its housing or is the inside replacable?

Chris - how much was your 'stat?  (might take you up on your offer to lend your TC - and put faces to names)

Cheers,

Ian

I've got a feeling they didn't give me any money off on the stat, or at least not much at all if they did.

Was about 34 quid I believe...  When you thinking of doing it Ian, perhaps we could do em at the same time, same place?
Title: Re: Smell of oil
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 27 March 2007, 22:17:26
The part labeled 15 looks interesting.....is it a bottle of airfix glue to glue all the parts together  ;D