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Title: 2.5 V6 With the go of a lawn mower! please help
Post by: wheelchairkid on 27 March 2007, 18:36:53
Hi to all, I have just brought a 1995 Vauxhall Omega 2.5 V6 CDX automatic. I got it cheap off ebay with a noisy cam. Well It would not tick over at first as the tick over was to slow, So I put a new Idle speed adjuster valve, and that sorted out the tick over (well mainly, but still a bit slow) the right hand head has very noisy cams the left is OK, it was missing a bit but found one HT lead broke so replaced that. But the main problem is that when I pull off it has the power of a lawn mower with out a engine, and if you accelerate hard you get the air cleaner box vibrate like mad. my other car is a 2.4 straight 4 Toyota previa and it put my Omega to shame power wise, I have checked that none of the brakes are stuck on, and non are. I am in a wheelchair fighting bowel cancer, and getting in and out of my previa is to hard. I am not got enough money to put it in to vauxhall. so any Idear  PLEASE PLEASE get in touch. :'(
                  Thank you :y
Just to let you all know I am in Northampton
you can e-mail me:  pateman0@btinternet.com
                     Jason  (wheelchair kid)
Title: Re: 2.5 V6 With the go of a lawn mower! please hel
Post by: Martin_1962 on 27 March 2007, 18:55:24
Location?
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Post by: Dave-C on 27 March 2007, 19:00:02
Where are you Jason??

Dave C ::)
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Post by: Admin on 27 March 2007, 19:08:38
My initial thoughts say DON'T DRIVE IT ANY MORE (don't even start it up!)  :o !

It sounds like the cam timing has slipped a couple of teeth.

If I am right, you have been extraordinarily fortunate.

Where are yo, in the country?
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Post by: RossPhim on 27 March 2007, 19:43:25
Jason,
I'm glad to see you decided to join us.
As Laidback says, don't drive anymore till you have more information.
Post up some more of your details, and hopefully someone will be kind of local to you.
We are a Europe wide forum now!  :y  :y
Cheers
Ross
Title: Re: 2.5 V6 With the go of a lawn mower! please hel
Post by: TheBoy on 27 March 2007, 20:07:16
Welcome to the site :)

As others have said, when I read, my immediate thought was cambelt. This needs to be double checked immediately.  Cambelts on these v6s need a locking/timing kit to do.

Where are you?
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Post by: JamesV6CDX on 28 March 2007, 02:54:11
Post up your location, town, city etc.

If you're local, I'll pop over and check the cambelt/timing....
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Post by: wheelchairkid on 28 March 2007, 05:56:19
Hi to all, very sorry I forgot to put I live in Northampton. and a big thank you to all of your help, when I get my next DLA money I will find a local garage and have the cam belt checked. Thank you to you all.
                                    wheelchair kid ;D
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Post by: Admin on 28 March 2007, 08:29:45
Northampton os not too bad, couple of our members should be able to come over and have a look.

When I said don't drive it, that does include getting it to a garage!
If you were to start it again there is every chance the belt would come off and then you are looking at a BIG job.

Also, a garage would charge you far too much and probably not do the job properly (most don't know how to do the timing)!
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Post by: DaveL on 28 March 2007, 08:39:44
A warm welcome to the site Jason,

Sure we can get you sorted out without too much trouble. Know what it feels like when health problems stop you being independent. Now you are not on your own. ;)

Sorry i cannot help more directly, but being in Scotland, the commute would be too far. There are members more local to you that are well capable to help. :y

Let us all know how it works out. :y :y
 8-)
DaveL
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Post by: wheelchairkid on 28 March 2007, 08:58:28
I can not thank you all enough, you all know your stuff about cars, I wish there was a site for cancer, thius is my 3rd time with cancer, but I am not out yet.
  I have phoned up a few garages and one s&s autos do alot of Omega`s and I will get my car to them in four weeks when I get my DLA money. I am a member of auto home and they will take my Omega to the garage for me.
                             It is so nice to have all of you lot close on here.
                                           Yours
                                               Jason
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Post by: rpont on 28 March 2007, 09:51:30
It may be better for you if someone from the forum comes over and does it for you. Even Vauxhall dealers are known to say you don't need selaant when doing cam covers, for example, but the insructions suppied by Vauxhall say you do.

I too am disabled, it took me a year to do my heads with the neighbours help but I really wanted to do them - even 20 miinutes a couple of times a week gave me something better to do than count the wheels on the passing trains :-)

The neighbour has a Citroen C3 and that has very high front seats, I find it much easier to get in and out of than my Omega. The Exclusive has one of those selectronic gear boxes that you can drive in automatic mode and it is available on Motability. It does take all of the mobility allowance to lease a new one though so may not leave anything left to put fuel in it.
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Post by: jonny2112 on 28 March 2007, 09:59:27
Glad you have found the site Jason, and it sounds like it was just in time!  :y
If you get a chance to trawl the back pages of the forum you will see the unrivalled community spirit herein, and there is no doubt that if someone can, then they will. I'm sure that somebody will be able to have a look at the motor for you before you take it to the garage, and even if you only get an honest assessment of the problem you will be in a better position to deal with the repairs.
Don't think it will come to that though, the forum has a habit of having 'parties' ......... ;D
Title: Re: 2.5 V6 With the go of a lawn mower! please hel
Post by: wheelchairkid on 28 March 2007, 16:31:39
Hi a big thank you to you all, you were spot on, My wife took the haynes manual and kit to the car ( she normaly does sit on lawn mower engines) and stripped it down to the cam belt, and yes the inlet cam on the right bank was well out, so she took the old cam belt off, got all of the timing marks set and put a brand new cam belt kit on. It now goes like a rocket, I dont drive it now, I just aim it and press the peddle. My wife done it all in 4 hours (not bad for a woman)
           So with the info from all of you lot and the work from my wife I am on the road again. :y So in any of you are in Northampton and see a dark Green Omega Estate going at hyper speed with some people hanging on in side, it it me.
                    Thank you all ;)
                  Jason
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Post by: Kevin Wood on 28 March 2007, 16:46:40
Wow! That's some wife you've got there!  :y I'm not sure I'd let mine anywhere near my cam belt. I'm not sure she'd go anywhere near it either!  ;)

It would be worth borrowing the proper setting tool for the cam belt if she didn't use it this time, just to check that the timing is spot on. It enables much more accurate alignment of the cam timing. The markings on the covers aren't really adequate.  There will be someone on here willing to loan you one, for sure.

It's also worth mentioning that the tensioner pullies actually go before the cam belts as a rule on these engines, so if they weren't changed this time have a look at the history and make sure there's a record of them being changed. They, along with the cam belt, should be replaced every 40K miles.

Glad to hear it's running properly now.

Kevin
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Post by: Dave-C on 28 March 2007, 18:15:42
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Hi a big thank you to you all, you were spot on, My wife took the haynes manual and kit to the car ( she normaly does sit on lawn mower engines) and stripped it down to the cam belt, and yes the inlet cam on the right bank was well out, so she took the old cam belt off, got all of the timing marks set and put a brand new cam belt kit on. It now goes like a rocket, I dont drive it now, I just aim it and press the peddle. My wife done it all in 4 hours (not bad for a woman)
           So with the info from all of you lot and the work from my wife I am on the road again. :y So in any of you are in Northampton and see a dark Green Omega Estate going at hyper speed with some people hanging on in side, it it me.
                    Thank you all ;)
                  Jason

Wife swapping sounds like the next forum party theme!!! :-*
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Post by: Admin on 28 March 2007, 18:24:48
Behave!  ;)
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Post by: JamesV6CDX on 28 March 2007, 18:29:19
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Behave!  ;)

Make me
 [smiley=evil.gif]
Title: Re: 2.5 V6 With the go of a lawn mower! please hel
Post by: wheelchairkid on 28 March 2007, 18:43:09
My wife has got her own snap on tools to play with so she said she does not need any other tools ;D. So all I can say is if you want your wife to be as happy as mine, let them get dirty, give them a spanner and oil can. :y
                  Thanks to all of you
                     Jason
                          Wheelcahir kid
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Post by: irratic on 28 March 2007, 18:54:28
glad you sorted mate.. so where did you find this wife of yours???? i'm in the market for a new one...other than that can i borrow her ?? my belts will need doing soon... how is she at putting a pit in a garage??? or block paving????
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Post by: Admin on 28 March 2007, 19:07:19
Quote
Quote
Behave!  ;)

Make me
 [smiley=evil.gif]


foolish..... :)
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Post by: Martin_1962 on 28 March 2007, 21:19:57
Good news :y
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Post by: STMO123 on 29 March 2007, 12:10:50
Quote
Hi a big thank you to you all, you were spot on, My wife took the haynes manual and kit to the car ( she normaly does sit on lawn mower engines) and stripped it down to the cam belt, and yes the inlet cam on the right bank was well out, so she took the old cam belt off, got all of the timing marks set and put a brand new cam belt kit on. It now goes like a rocket, I dont drive it now, I just aim it and press the peddle. My wife done it all in 4 hours (not bad for a woman)
           So with the info from all of you lot and the work from my wife I am on the road again. :y So in any of you are in Northampton and see a dark Green Omega Estate going at hyper speed with some people hanging on in side, it it me.
                    Thank you all ;)
                  Jason

WOW Jasons missus. Dont think I've ever been so impressed! Well done :y
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Post by: bogit on 29 March 2007, 12:51:11
Quote
Hi a big thank you to you all, you were spot on, My wife took the haynes manual and kit to the car ( she normaly does sit on lawn mower engines) and stripped it down to the cam belt, and yes the inlet cam on the right bank was well out, so she took the old cam belt off, got all of the timing marks set and put a brand new cam belt kit on. It now goes like a rocket, I dont drive it now, I just aim it and press the peddle. My wife done it all in 4 hours (not bad for a woman)
           So with the info from all of you lot and the work from my wife I am on the road again. :y So in any of you are in Northampton and see a dark Green Omega Estate going at hyper speed with some people hanging on in side, it it me.
                    Thank you all ;)
                  Jason

ill be in the green saloon behind you then  ;D

well done to Mrs Wheelchair

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Post by: MaxV6 on 29 March 2007, 12:58:14
Jason, d'ya reckon you could get her to teach my missus ???

damn me but I'm green with Envy.....


Max
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Post by: The Barge Captain on 29 March 2007, 14:22:00
I'm impressed.  Nice one mate and Mrs Wheelchairkid  :y
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Post by: Gaffers on 29 March 2007, 14:34:39
Glad to hear your car problems are sorted, I agree that is some wife you have there. Mine just about knows how to put petrol in her car.  Tyre pressure, brake fuid, oils, forget it.!!

Sorry to hear about the condition, hopefully the omega keeps your spirits up.  My dad is terminal and his 4lt supercharged jag and track days are all he looks forward too !!