Omega Owners Forum
Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: irratic on 23 March 2007, 15:13:00
-
loads of cream on the oil filler cap.. non on dipstick. not overheating etc . is this definately head gasket or is there a known possible problem that could cause this???? any possibilities would be good befor i pull the head off...
-
loads of cream on the oil filler cap.. non on dipstick. not overheating etc . is this definately head gasket or is there a known possible problem that could cause this???? any possibilities would be good befor i pull the head off...
How much? Short runs in this weather does this and is normal. Also some types of oil, especially the fully synthetics it would appear, make it worse..
-
believe it or not, it's unlikelt a cause for concern at all, and doubt it indicates a problem
Give it a good oil and filter change and clean the crankcase breather system
then clean the oil neck and see if it comes back
a little residue on the cap is totally normal
-
there is a fair bit, not just a bit of condensation..but there is nothing coming out the exhaust and doesn't seem to be showing any other signs of HG.. but i'm loosing water and its creamy.. was just wondering if there was any other way the water could get in like a heat echanger or something..( i'm just grasping at straws)
-
When I was looking to buy I saw quite a few facelifts with low (circa 40k) mileages on forcourts with an alarming amount of mayo under the filler cap. Granted, these were cars that were probably started up to get shunted around the forecourt with the odd test drive.
It's quite a long pipe at the top of the engine, so where the vapour tends to congregate, and I guess the engine needs to be fully warmed up for an extended period of time before it can drive off the moisture from this area.
In the absence of any other symptoms I'd say it's no problem.
As others have said, it may be an indication that an oil change is overdue but more than likely due to short journeys in cold weather.
Kevin
-
ive got a picture to put up.. but for the life of me i cant get it go on this site..obviously doing something wrong.... how do i put a picture up???
-
you need to put the image on a website like say Photobucket
and add the link to the image
-
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s34/irratic_photos/waterinoil.jpg)
-
Mine's the same.
Wipe it off and take her for a long motorway run.
As said, no worries as long as it is not on the dipstick.
And if you are selling the car, wipe it off first, potential buyers might wrongly think what you did... it's an Omega thing but not many people know it.
-
BTW there is an oil-to-water heat exchanger in the vee of the engine that often fails. Since the oil running through it is pressurised the failure mode is for oil to leak into the cooling system and never the other way round.
Kevin
-
the water in the header tank certainly seems like there is some oil in it but not to any extreme...i was loosing water befor , from the rear of the engine as when i turned the engine off i could hear it dropping on the exhaust. but ive never found where it is coming from, how easy is it to check if the heat exchanger has gone???although taking the heads off is well within my scope ,i would obviously prefer not to do it.. i wasn't planning on selling the car...
-
Russ, is this your Elite or the other car? Looks like a lot of mayo for just a bit of condensation, me thinks... Certainly looking like oil cooler rather than heads to me... Don't rule out the HBV and heavy condensation, I know you only make short journeys if it's the Elite, incidently there was a 2.5 v6 in at the scrappy at Froghall,,, engine still in and partially stripped out... Possibly oil cooler still on if required, let me know if I can help in any way,
Dave C :-*
-
Oil cooler does tend to put lots of oil in header tank.
Initially, I would clean up filler, and look for coolant leaks...
-
Russ, is this your Elite or the other car? Looks like a lot of mayo for just a bit of condensation, me thinks... Certainly looking like oil cooler rather than heads to me... Don't rule out the HBV and heavy condensation, I know you only make short journeys if it's the Elite, incidently there was a 2.5 v6 in at the scrappy at Froghall,,, engine still in and partially stripped out... Possibly oil cooler still on if required, let me know if I can help in any way,
Dave C :-*
Dave, its my car mate...the other car is fine.. what with buying a stupid exhaust that sounds worse than the blowing one i had on and this,, ha ha .. only went to check the oil.. i would certainly prefer oil cooler than heads to do...its all fun. and i'm supposed to be going away in a couple of weeks
-
If I can help ;)
-
Oil cooler does tend to put lots of oil in header tank.
Initially, I would clean up filler, and look for coolant leaks...
i would't of said there was that much oil in the header tank, bit of sludge if i run my finger in there ... how about a poll?? who thinks its oil cooler? and who thinks its head gasket???
-
Oil cooler does tend to put lots of oil in header tank.
Initially, I would clean up filler, and look for coolant leaks...
i would't of said there was that much oil in the header tank, bit of sludge if i run my finger in there ... how about a poll?? who thinks its oil cooler? and who thinks its head gasket???
and who thinks its neither ;)
-
If I can help ;)
cheers mate, i might take you up on that... i'm going give it a clean tommorow and take it a burn up the 50 and see what the result is... dont suppose you got a cam locking kit incase i've got to take off the heads???
-
Oil cooler does tend to put lots of oil in header tank.
Initially, I would clean up filler, and look for coolant leaks...
i would't of said there was that much oil in the header tank, bit of sludge if i run my finger in there ... how about a poll?? who thinks its oil cooler? and who thinks its head gasket???
and who thinks its neither ;)
there's a lot of mayo for condensation don't you think?????? but on saying that ,the dipstick is clean as a whistle......
-
Oil cooler does tend to put lots of oil in header tank.
Initially, I would clean up filler, and look for coolant leaks...
i would't of said there was that much oil in the header tank, bit of sludge if i run my finger in there ... how about a poll?? who thinks its oil cooler? and who thinks its head gasket???
and who thinks its neither ;)
there's a lot of mayo for condensation don't you think?????? but on saying that ,the dipstick is clean as a whistle......
Depends on the oil and the car use...
-
When I picked my car up from Newark (when I bought it off ebay) there was quite a bit of mayo on the filler cap. I cleaned it off and, because I dont do short runs, it never came back. :y
-
Yes! Sykes Pickavant locking kit on standby, shall need it back for the weekend after easter though, doing my belt...
DaveC
-
Yes! Sykes Pickavant locking kit on standby, shall need it back for the weekend after easter though, doing my belt...
DaveC
cheers dave...
after what you're all saying , and i don't no what oil is in it , and the last couple of months ive only done 8 miles to work and back so its only just got warm... i'll oil and filter change tommorow , wipe out the mayo and see how it goes...
-
Yes! Sykes Pickavant locking kit on standby, shall need it back for the weekend after easter though, doing my belt...
DaveC
cheers dave...
after what you're all saying , and i don't no what oil is in it , and the last couple of months ive only done 8 miles to work and back so its only just got warm... i'll oil and filter change tommorow , wipe out the mayo and see how it goes...
Thats a good plan :y
-
obviously keep an eye on it though, and the coolant.
-
If you're only doing short trips more regular oil changes are a very good idea anyway.
Kevin
-
Has it ever had an oil cooler fail? If so it may just be oil left over in the cooling system from that. I think if the cooler goes you get a lot of oil in the coolant, not just a trace. It doesn't sound to me as if you have either cooler or gasket failure, there just doesn't sound to be enough gunge. I'd change the coolant as well while you are at it and then just keep an eye on things.
-
IVE ONLY HAD THE CAR ABOUT 4 MONTHS SO I DON'T REALLY NO THE HISTORY.. I DO HAVE SOME PAPERWORK THAT CAME WITH IT.. SO I'LL HAVE A LOOK..
-
VX semi synth and deffo a filter change, certainly check that HBV first.. about £30-40 from vx or saab..
let us know how you go on Russ...
Dave C
-
4 hours left on e-bay Item number: 200090549238
-
hey up dave. wiped it out this morningtook it for a burn, it still pulls well at 130. lol . not the slightest residue on the cap.. cant find a leak, it doesn't seem to be coming from the hbv. there is oil residue in the water but not loads, checked the paperwork that came with the car, had loads spent on it but no mention of oil cooler..going get some oil and filter and see what comes out the bottom.. but got go running round the scrappies first, that brain dead child of mine clipped a kerb and buckled his road wheel ( citroen 3 stud). no one seems to have one that ive rang..
-
Auto Reclaim Stafford????
-
going up ginties first,no point ringing him they just say come look... do you need anything while i'm up there ??
-
Nope, OK for now! NEC sunday, dolls house show,,, PLEASE don't ask!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o
-
DOLLS HOUSE SHOW ????????? my views of you have just changed. ha ha......if you find a 6 foot tall barbie bring her back .LOL
-
I'll manage with Ken then shall I????
-
My wife's Meriva looked the same, 18m old and 15,000 miles.
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o317/chopsdad/IMG_1258.jpg)
Still under warranty so Vx had a look. Breather hoses were blocked with the same mayo. Cleaned them all out, forte oil flush, new oil & filter and 3m further on there is no sign of returning problems.
-
well ive done oil and filter , but middle of the road £20 a gallon stuff....after running around , no signs yet...the sudden shock of cream in the filler did me... dave i could still do with the use of your cam kit mate.. its pouring oil out of the cam carrier heads....rocker cover gaskets are sound...
-
well ive done oil and filter , but middle of the road £20 a gallon stuff....after running around , no signs yet...the sudden shock of cream in the filler did me... dave i could still do with the use of your cam kit mate.. its pouring oil out of the cam carrier heads....rocker cover gaskets are sound...
If anyone near you (if you updated your profile to say ;)) has access to trade club, Vauxhall semi synth is about £30 (inv VAT) for 4 x 5l bottles ;)
-
NO SWEAT! (Lock Kit) Gotta have it back for the 13th April LATEST!!!
You're most welcome..
DC ;)
-
Mine does that but runs perfect. I had a proper panic on, but got people who know more than i do to look and it's down to short journeys. I've read members replys & they're right, although i've got no oil in water bottle. As for the oil cap, hook it out with your finger & flick it at someone you do'nt like!!!