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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: RobG on 19 June 2007, 21:48:02
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:( Hi, Hope someone out there can assist. The front passenger carpet on my Meega is soaking wet. I`ve noticed my coolant is low but not exceptionally so. When I lifted the carpet up underneath the glovebox there is a rounded cutout shape of soundproofing held to the bulkhead by a plastic push stud, this is soaking the "coolant" up like a sponge. Behind the soundproofing I can see a black steel container type shape. When I looked under the bonnet I could see a rust trail from the area of this container. Can somebody out there please advise what could be the problem. Many thanks,
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Is there water in the well in front of pollen filter? If so, your scuttle drain is blocked and needs clearing
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Thanks for the quick response. I`ll check first thing a.m. and post what I find. Let`s just hope it`s only that. Cheers.
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Thanks for the quick response. I`ll check first thing a.m. and post what I find. Let`s just hope it`s only that. Cheers.
Don't forget, because if it is that, it may cause damage to the climate's fan controller, and that will be expensive ;)
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Won`t forget. First thing in the morning. Out of interest do you know what the "container" is behind the carpet?
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Won`t forget. First thing in the morning. Out of interest do you know what the "container" is behind the carpet?
Not entirely sure what you mean - though I can't remember if I've ever looked under carpet there...
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When the carpet is lifted back behind the glovebox you will see a piece of soundproofing held with a push/twist stud. Lift this and there is a cutout in the actual bulkhead where you can see the "container" it appears to be constucted from steel with a high gloss black finish.
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When the carpet is lifted back behind the glovebox you will see a piece of soundproofing held with a push/twist stud. Lift this and there is a cutout in the actual bulkhead where you can see the "container" it appears to be constucted from steel with a high gloss black finish.
I can't help either & I discovered the same problem last week in my front passenger foot well. If you find the cause of your leak I'd obviously be intersted to know. I haven't been back in my Omega since I dried it out - it might well be swimming again, as it's either rained or pi$$ed it down here! :(
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that 'container i beleve is a fan unit for the heater unit.
the soundproofing you describe is a cover that hides everything behind the dash
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Thanks for all the replies. As I said, I`ll check scuttle drain in the morning and post back.
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Is there water in the well in front of pollen filter? If so, your scuttle drain is blocked and needs clearing
I`ve checked and the scuttle drain is blocked. There is quite a bit of water there. Where exactly is the drain as I`ve got my arm past the pollen filter but can`t feel or see anything.
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Its right in the bottom just behind the cable assembly grommit, it exits in the engine bay on the passenger side chassis rail below the abs unit...
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A quick squirt with a power washer lance should clear it, if you don't fancy guddling at the outlet behind the front wheel.
(remember to duck to avoid the backspray, though! ;D )
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A quick squirt with a power washer lance should clear it, if you don't fancy guddling at the outlet behind the front wheel.
(remember to duck to avoid the backspray, though! ;D )
Mental note.......remember next time to get out of the way.....or get son to do it for me
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Ok had this problem on my facelift estate. The water is getting in past the seal on what you describe as the cut out up under and behind the glove box. The cause, the drain grommet which takes the rainwater away is blocked. You can access this by lifting away the plastic mesh grill just in front of the bulkhead, the bit where the wiper arm spindle passes through (passenger side). You need a torch and you will be able to see down there where water collects and should drain away. Mine was like a mini water holding tank, it was blocked and stank awful, been blocked for ages. I think what fills it up quickly if blocked is very heavy rain, and we have had some of that recently. Just poke a stick or get your hand in there and remove the debris.
I had to remove all of my carpets front and rear on that side then cut away carefully the sound deadning material to let it dry out properly. Beware on the facelift there are parts of the wiring loom that run under this matting in the passenger footwell, be careful with that stanley knife if you choose to cut it away for drying, best to as it starts to stink after a while.
Not sure whether it's the same on pre facelift models. Anyway keep checking to keep it clear of debris in future, especially if you park near trees bushes etc like me, all the crap gets down into this area and blocks it over time.
Mick
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the easist way to unblock it is to get at the rubber pipe where it comes out in the front passenger wheel archif tou turn the wheel all the way to the right ( I think) you will see it, it is a soft rubber tube, it is soft enough to wiggle by hand, leaves and crap will come out followed by abut 5 litres of stinky water! once done if you look in the top as decribed by previous posts you will see the drain and you acn remove any rubbish there.
to help dry out the carpets if you look under the carpet on the left rea passenger side tou will see a round rubber grommet about 4cm across, this pushes out and will help it to drain away ;)
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I found the easiest way to do mine was to 'suck' out the water with a hose using the gypsy fuel pump technique. Scrap out crap in the bottom, then get wire coat hanger, cut to give a stiff wire and insert from behind f/n/s wheel. Wiggle and add water to drain, repeat until completely clear... 8-)
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TBH I am not sure about firing a pressure washer down there. The route out is quite obscure and not straight (and different on different age cars), so I suspect the pressure washer will just fill it up quickly so you can't see what you are doing -well you can't anyway, but this will likely just make it worse if its badly blocked up!
I couldn't reach all the way to the drain, so fiddled around for ages with a length of domestic wiring cable (I think as suggested on here). If you've got a wet and dry vac , might work to vacuum most of the crap out then at least you can see a bit.
Its well worth adding this to the regular servicing list.
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Ok had this problem on my facelift estate. The water is getting in past the seal on what you describe as the cut out up under and behind the glove box. The cause, the drain grommet which takes the rainwater away is blocked. You can access this by lifting away the plastic mesh grill just in front of the bulkhead, the bit where the wiper arm spindle passes through (passenger side). You need a torch and you will be able to see down there where water collects and should drain away. Mine was like a mini water holding tank, it was blocked and stank awful, been blocked for ages. I think what fills it up quickly if blocked is very heavy rain, and we have had some of that recently. Just poke a stick or get your hand in there and remove the debris.
I had to remove all of my carpets front and rear on that side then cut away carefully the sound deadning material to let it dry out properly. Beware on the facelift there are parts of the wiring loom that run under this matting in the passenger footwell, be careful with that stanley knife if you choose to cut it away for drying, best to as it starts to stink after a while.
Not sure whether it's the same on pre facelift models. Anyway keep checking to keep it clear of debris in future, especially if you park near trees bushes etc like me, all the crap gets down into this area and blocks it over time.
Mick
BTW if all of the foam sound deading stuff is wet it's best to cut it all away and let it dry out of the car. It can be cut carefully so you can piece it back in when dry. It don't half soak up the water and won't dry in situ, takes about a week to dry off it's like a sponge but can't be sqeezed out so much. Mine was wet for a week before I decided to get it out because it started to smell awful.
Mick
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:y Thanks for everbody`s advise, much appreciated. Scuttle was holding about 3 litres of muck and water. Managed to get missus to stick her arm in and pull drain grommet out. All nice and clean and shiny now. Must remember to check it on a regular basis, especially after the downpours we`ve had here. Weekend job is now removing the carpet and soundproofing weather permitting!!!!!!!
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:y Thanks for everbody`s advise, much appreciated. Scuttle was holding about 3 litres of muck and water. Managed to get missus to stick her arm in and pull drain grommet out. All nice and clean and shiny now. Must remember to check it on a regular basis, especially after the downpours we`ve had here. Weekend job is now removing the carpet and soundproofing weather permitting!!!!!!!
Sorted :y
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A quick squirt with a power washer lance should clear it, if you don't fancy guddling at the outlet behind the front wheel.
(remember to duck to avoid the backspray, though! ;D )
Mental note.......remember next time to get out of the way.....or get son to do it for me
Get a bit damp then??? ;D ;D ;D