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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Timbuk on 26 June 2007, 11:52:48
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Now i have some dry weather for a few hours ( hopefully ) i have managed to be able to look under the bonnet of the project car. God knows how it was diagnosed as oil cooler as the header tank is squeeky clean although the level is low. The dipstick has no signs of water, nor does the oil cap, not a hint of white anywhere . The car was running like a bag of sh/t when i loaded it on the trailer and now the battery is flat so its battery charge time and start from scratch :-/
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So what were the symptoms as advertised?
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Dis pack and/or leads....
Cambelt timing ok?
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Dis pack and/or leads....
Cambelt timing ok?
Thats what i was thinking, with the coolant being low, i wonder if it has a dodgy HBV which has fooked the dispack
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So what were the symptoms as advertised?
Advertised as HG failure ::) i asked a few questions and they didn't really know what they were talking about, just mentioned stuff coming out of header tank so i assumed oil cooler :-/
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Dis pack and/or leads....
Cambelt timing ok?
Thats what i was thinking, with the coolant being low, i wonder if it has a dodgy HBV which has fooked the dispack
So more skin off the knuckles then ::)
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Dis pack and/or leads....
Cambelt timing ok?
Thats what i was thinking, with the coolant being low, i wonder if it has a dodgy HBV which has fooked the dispack
So more skin off the knuckles then ::)
Possibly so :-/
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So what were the symptoms as advertised?
Advertised as HG failure ::) i asked a few questions and they didn't really know what they were talking about, just mentioned stuff coming out of header tank so i assumed oil cooler :-/
Maybe it is then :-/ or coolant over pressurising for another reason and the 'stuff' was steam :question
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Battery charged over night, put on this morning, filled coolent tank and fired her up, started first time on six, ran for about 5 mins no probs ( a bit lumpy ), then EML came on and it dropped to 4 or 5, burping, coughing, spluttering. Residue now forming on oil filler cap, also fumes now coming out once cap removed, removed dipstick, oil still clean but again fumes from tube :question Its either breathing very heavy or its steam :question. Ran up to temperature and there seems to be no over pressurization of cooling system although i havn't taken it for a run.
Fault codes are 12 & 31 as expected and also 17 & 144.
Any thoughts :question
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Hmmm...knock sensor failure/fault on 2-4-6 bank.....
Can you do a compression test on that bank and look at the plugs whilst at i (see if any are getting steam cleaned)
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Hmmm...knock sensor failure/fault on 2-4-6 bank.....
Can you do a compression test on that bank and look at the plugs whilst at i (see if any are getting steam cleaned)
Will do :y
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heres hoping......ijust wonder how onearth they thought it HG failure.......probably had vauxhall look at it :-X
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and the 17 will be due to someone trapping knock sensor wire in the camcover I bet.....
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and the 17 will be due to someone trapping knock sensor wire in the camcover I bet.....
Funny you should say that, there is a wire running between Aux belt and cam cover :o
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and the 17 will be due to someone trapping knock sensor wire in the camcover I bet.....
Funny you should say that, there is a wire running between Aux belt and cam cover :o
;)
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and the 17 will be due to someone trapping knock sensor wire in the camcover I bet.....
Funny you should say that, there is a wire running between Aux belt and cam cover :o
;)
Smart Arse :D
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Just done compression test on No 2, 4 & 6 cylinders as Mark suggested, 235, 245 & 265 psi respectively, all seems ok there then :-/ Better do 1, 3 & 5 while i'm here then i thought
This is what i found :o Think i may have just found the problem ::)
No 1 Plug
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/timbuk1969/DSCF0474.jpg)
No 3 Plug
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/timbuk1969/DSCF0473.jpg)
No 5 Plug
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/timbuk1969/DSCF0472.jpg)
O/S scuttle drain is also blocked, water running over onto broken o/s cam cover and straight through the hole. The top of the head and plug wells are swimming in water :o :o
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Looks like a job for Dyno-Rod :y
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That'll make it run like a sack of spuds....
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Looks like you have 3 paddling pools there. No Wonder its not well
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.. only thing missing is a few tropical fish!
Kevin
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Water cooled plugs and I think that big hole in the cam cover is a mod to stop blocked breathers from blowing the cam cover gaskets. At least you know someone has put a lot of thought into it ::) ;D
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Water cooled plugs and I think that big hole in the cam cover is a mod to stop blocked breathers from blowing the cam cover gaskets. At least you know someone has put a lot of thought into it ::) ;D
If it only it would help but, its no where near the oiled section...
Worth doing a compression test any way as it gives some info on the state of the engine.
So.....any good at syphoning....
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So.....any good at syphoning....
I'm great at syphoning beer from a glass.....
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and then 'Syphoning The Python' ;)
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Still going to compression test 1, 3 and 5 once its drained, just been and got cam cover off the red one i scrapped and picked up gaskets from stealers ;)
Something else i found ::)
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/timbuk1969/DSCF0475-1.jpg)
Cam cover now off :o
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/timbuk1969/DSCF0477-1.jpg)
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PMSL.....
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Is that some sort of tuning device on no6 pot only ::)
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Is that some sort of tuning device on no6 pot only ::)
Well, that vac pip should get a good vacuum.....
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:o
Ok so we've got a water jacket around half the spark plugs, a vacuum hose completely blocked (where does it go to, by the way?) and probably an air leak into no. 6.
But has anyone guessed why it was running like a dog yet?
Makes me wonder if that was done by a mechanic trying his best to sort the problem, or one who slapped it back together to get rid after his diagnosis of "head gasket, mate" wasn't accepted.
Kevin
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I was hoping to get it finished tonight, but it's started raining >:(
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I was hoping to get it finished tonight, but it's started raining >:(
Oh you wimp - dont let that stop you ;) ;D
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I was hoping to get it finished tonight, but it's started raining >:(
Oh you wimp - dont let that stop you ;) ;D
I've been back out and its started again :( I give up >:(
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I was hoping to get it finished tonight, but it's started raining >:(
Oh you wimp - dont let that stop you ;) ;D
I've been back out and its started again :( I give up >:(
I'm afraid you've had it weatherwise this weekend mate :(
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Yeah, just looking for a possible coolant leak on tractor (can't find one), and its started here.
Looking wet for weekend, so won't be having head off this weekend. Thank God.
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Yeah, just looking for a possible coolant leak on tractor (can't find one), and its started here.
Looking wet for weekend, so won't be having head off this weekend. Thank God.
No. Dont go pulling your head off this weekend Jaime ;D ;D
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I was hoping to get it finished tonight, but it's started raining >:(
Oh you wimp - dont let that stop you ;) ;D
I've been back out and its started again :( I give up >:(
You can't be too careful Tim, it might get wet..
Isn't it impressive that it ran at all on that bank.
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I was hoping to get it finished tonight, but it's started raining >:(
Oh you wimp - dont let that stop you ;) ;D
I've been back out and its started again :( I give up >:(
You can't be too careful Tim, it might get wet..
Isn't it impressive that it ran at all on that bank.
Don't give up it's only water and a little bit of water never hurt anything. By the way,did you remember to
check your fuses? ;)
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Rain stopped,Job done ;) seems ok, compression on 1,3 & 5= 230,230 220. Just ran for a whole 10 mins on all six cylinders before i turned it off :) Idle is lumpy but it has an air leak, egr gasket is fooked, sort that in the morning, replaced damaged vac pipes so all being well it can go for a run tomorrow once the gasket has been changed, see how she does :y
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Rain stopped,Job done ;) seems ok, compression on 1,3 & 5= 230,230 220. Just ran for a whole 10 mins on all six cylinders before i turned it off :) Idle is lumpy but it has an air leak, egr gasket is fooked, sort that in the morning, replaced damaged vac pipes so all being well it can go for a run tomorrow once the gasket has been changed, see how she does :y
Good Job :y
Been following this thread all day - but at work the pictures dont work, Now at hoe and just seen those plug wells ::) I cant believe the state some folk let cars get into :(
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I could not believe seening that Vac Pipe being as it was if that was done by a mechanic he should be shot
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So that is what the V stands for in V6 --- Venetian ( full of watery canals! )
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Been for a 20 mile run this morning, good news is no over heating, idle is fine and no loss of water :y bad news is missing under load and then clears, o/s manifold blowing, EML, TC and ABS lights on constantly, new fault codes 37 & 39. I asume 37 is because of manifold gasket, not sure about 39 though, any ideas :question
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All sounds good matey :y
But if you find out why the TC and ABS lights are on all the time let me know as I got the same thing this end :)
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ABS ECU goosed....do check the connectors first though.
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.....or a faulty wheel speed sensor if the speedo is working on, check if the wires to them have been trapped between the disc and the hub ::)
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.....or a faulty wheel speed sensor if the speedo is working on, check if the wires to them have been trapped between the disc and the hub ::)
That reminds me, SPEEDO not working :-?
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.....or a faulty wheel speed sensor if the speedo is working on, check if the wires to them have been trapped between the disc and the hub ::)
That reminds me, SPEEDO not working :-?
Ah, that will be why the ABS/TC lights on. Though I think the ABS unit feeds speed to speedo...
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.....or a faulty wheel speed sensor if the speedo is working on, check if the wires to them have been trapped between the disc and the hub ::)
That reminds me, SPEEDO not working :-?
Ah, that will be why the ABS/TC lights on. Though I think the ABS unit feeds speed to speedo...
So am i looking at trapped speedo sensor wire or ABS unit : :question or could it be either :question
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.....or a faulty wheel speed sensor if the speedo is working on, check if the wires to them have been trapped between the disc and the hub ::)
That reminds me, SPEEDO not working :-?
Ah, that will be why the ABS/TC lights on. Though I think the ABS unit feeds speed to speedo...
So am i looking at trapped speedo sensor wire or ABS unit : :question or could it be either :question
what year is it?
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.....or a faulty wheel speed sensor if the speedo is working on, check if the wires to them have been trapped between the disc and the hub ::)
That reminds me, SPEEDO not working :-?
Ah, that will be why the ABS/TC lights on. Though I think the ABS unit feeds speed to speedo...
So am i looking at trapped speedo sensor wire or ABS unit : :question or could it be either :question
what year is it?
98 'S '
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Still going to compression test 1, 3 and 5 once its drained, just been and got cam cover off the red one i scrapped and picked up gaskets from stealers ;)
Something else i found ::)
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/timbuk1969/DSCF0475-1.jpg)
Cam cover now off :o
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/timbuk1969/DSCF0477-1.jpg)
I think before you start working on it tomorrow you had better phone the R.N.L.I just incase you fall in ;D
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Still going to compression test 1, 3 and 5 once its drained, just been and got cam cover off the red one i scrapped and picked up gaskets from stealers ;)
Something else i found ::)
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/timbuk1969/DSCF0475-1.jpg)
Cam cover now off :o
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/timbuk1969/DSCF0477-1.jpg)
I think before you start working on it tomorrow you had better phone the R.N.L.I just incase you fall in ;D
All nice and dry now ;) although it took five of us 90 mins to empty it with buckets :D
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.....or a faulty wheel speed sensor if the speedo is working on, check if the wires to them have been trapped between the disc and the hub ::)
That reminds me, SPEEDO not working :-?
Ah, that will be why the ABS/TC lights on. Though I think the ABS unit feeds speed to speedo...
So am i looking at trapped speedo sensor wire or ABS unit : :question or could it be either :question
what year is it?
98 'S '
My money is on a failed ABS ECU then - the post 98 ones (mini facelift and facelift) are prone to this :(
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.....or a faulty wheel speed sensor if the speedo is working on, check if the wires to them have been trapped between the disc and the hub ::)
That reminds me, SPEEDO not working :-?
Ah, that will be why the ABS/TC lights on. Though I think the ABS unit feeds speed to speedo...
So am i looking at trapped speedo sensor wire or ABS unit : :question or could it be either :question
what year is it?
98 'S '
My money is on a failed ABS ECU then - the post 98 ones (mini facelift and facelift) are prone to this :(
Its a good morning for testing it then ::) if it hasn't floated away down the road yet :-/