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Title: Intermittant fault
Post by: baldy18 on 05 July 2007, 10:15:54
Can any one help, I have tried many other sites and nothing.
I have a 1998 3.0 V6 (Auto box) estate omega with 97,500 on the clock.
Starts first time and ticks over great, put it in to drive great, now sometimes it will go like a dream other times you accelerate and their is no power (Does not do it in reverse).

I have had the gearbox checked no faults, I have had 4 diagnostic checks no fault codes  :(, please any one else had this problem or know what to do to fix it?

Thank you
Title: Re: Intermittant fault
Post by: TheBoy on 05 July 2007, 11:33:16
When you say no power, does it die, just stay at idle, or accelerate slowly...

Also, where are you based - wondering if a live data test may be worthwhile...
Title: Re: Intermittant fault
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 05 July 2007, 11:49:24
Hmmm....sticking EGR maybe.....or sticking multirams...

Live data would tell a lot.....
Title: Re: Intermittant fault
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 05 July 2007, 12:18:23
Does the power come back if you put it 1st instead of D?
Just wondering if the gearbox is going into limp mode as you say its ok in reverse.
Title: Re: Intermittant fault
Post by: baldy18 on 05 July 2007, 13:09:30
In reply it just stays at idle and judders along, their is no difference if I put it in to 1st.

I am based at Basingstoke
Title: Re: Intermittant fault
Post by: TheBoy on 05 July 2007, 13:29:57
Too far from me  :'(

Not sure if anyone nearby had ability to do live data?

Would you say its feasible it could happen in reverse, but obviously more noticably going forward due to little use of reverse?

Title: Re: Intermittant fault
Post by: baldy18 on 05 July 2007, 15:56:45
I have been out and driven the car and it has started the fault again, as it was a long quiet road I put it in reverse and it would not go above 1,500 RPM, I also tried it in first sluggish to start with then started to pick up.

???????
Title: Re: Intermittant fault
Post by: TheBoy on 05 July 2007, 16:04:18
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I have been out and driven the car and it has started the fault again, as it was a long quiet road I put it in reverse and it would not go above 1,500 RPM, I also tried it in first sluggish to start with then started to pick up.

???????
OK, so it happens in both forward and reverse.

Rather than pay for simple diagnostics checks, search for fault codes by doing the free 'paperclip test' (see faq section).  Double check nothing there.

Then check for air leaks, and check for oil in the spark plug wells...
Title: Re: Intermittant fault
Post by: Kevin Wood on 05 July 2007, 19:30:45
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I put it in reverse and it would not go above 1,500 RPM, I also tried it in first sluggish to start with then started to pick up.

Is it misfiring and running roughly when it limits at 1500 RPM or is it still running smoothly?

Once it's been coaxed up to speed does it still run rough or will it cruise along smoothly? Does it run rough again when you try to accelerate?

As TB says, check for codes and for cam cover oil leaks and water leaks into the plug wells. Sounds like ignition trouble to me, and it has been a bit damp of late!

If you do get stuck, I'm only in Four Marks if you need a second eye cast over it. I've got a bit of a hectic weekend ahead though so it may have to wait until next week.

Cheers,

Kevin

Title: Re: Intermittant fault
Post by: baldy18 on 06 July 2007, 10:15:16
Kevin,

When in 1st it quickly accelerates to 1,500RPM and no more power + very rough.
No cam cover oil leaks or water leaks.
No codes comming up.

A second eye would be great, I am working this weekend so next weekend if you could.

Many Thanks

Mark
Title: Re: Intermittant fault
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 July 2007, 10:32:28
Any info as to when the fuel filter was last changed?
Title: Re: Intermittant fault
Post by: baldy18 on 06 July 2007, 14:46:04
Sorry, no idea about the filter. I know it was serviced before I brought it, 1,000 miles ago.
Title: Re: Intermittant fault
Post by: TheBoy on 06 July 2007, 18:44:12
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Sorry, no idea about the filter. I know it was serviced before I brought it, 1,000 miles ago.
Can you define 'serviced' - I suspect this is just an oil change, and if you're really lucky, and oil filter ;)

Worth checking fuel filter, should still look fairly new if it was changed recently....
Title: Re: Intermittant fault
Post by: baldy18 on 06 July 2007, 19:57:47
As I got the car from a private seller I can only go on what he said for the service and that was plugs oil etc.

No being good with cars can you tell me where I would find the fuel filter?
Title: Re: Intermittant fault
Post by: TheBoy on 06 July 2007, 19:59:43
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As I got the car from a private seller I can only go on what he said for the service and that was plugs oil etc.

No being good with cars can you tell me where I would find the fuel filter?
LOL, probably not done a proper service then.

The fuel filter is under car, just forward of fuel tank on petrol models...
Title: Re: Intermittant fault
Post by: Markjay on 06 July 2007, 23:19:29
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As I got the car from a private seller I can only go on what he said for the service and that was plugs oil etc.

No being good with cars can you tell me where I would find the fuel filter?
LOL, probably not done a proper service then.

The fuel filter is under car, just forward of fuel tank on petrol models...

..and plugs are NOT part of the routine service - they only need doing every 40k/4y, so chances are that this whole 'service' things didn't actually happen...

I think the general theme here is give it a good service first, oil + filter, air filter, fuel filter, then see what you come up with...

And at this mileage not a bad idea to do the autobox ATF and filter while you're at it.

I would also mention coolant and brake fluid change, but I am digressing...

Other general culprits are plugs, HT leads, DIS pack.....





Title: Re: Intermittant fault
Post by: Markjay on 06 July 2007, 23:21:29
As for the fuel filter, I believe this picture is from one of Mark's DTM cars...:

(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/880/fuelfilterfrommarkdtmsi3.jpg)

Title: Re: Intermittant fault
Post by: Markjay on 06 July 2007, 23:25:15
(http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/2941/fuelfilter1aw3.jpg)