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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: JamesV6CDX on 17 September 2007, 22:09:24
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Shall I convert my new Facelift V6 to LPG? Open to ideas at the moment either way.
Do about 400/500 miles a week, use approx £70 of fuel a week.
Please vote in the poll :y
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Bearing in mind, either option will give me a brand new SGI kit...
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Why bother to buy a V6 and LPG it..
Leave it alone and enjoy it as it is.. :y
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No expert on this ::) but i understand that you will need a certificate from a reconised fitter to satisfy your insurance company :-X
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Why bother to buy a V6 and LPG it..
Because the LPG will pay for itself within the space of a few months :)
And then my fuel will be half the cost!
Open to all ideas though, this is a VERY nice car, and I want to do what's right for it, as well as for me :y
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No expert on this ::) but i understand that you will need a certificate from a reconised fitter to satisfy your insurance company :-X
Martin knows an establishment that's LPGA approved and will certify a DIY installation...
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I'm looking at doing this to mine aswell tbh, as I'll be doing around 70 miles a day back & too to uni...
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No expert on this ::) but i understand that you will need a certificate from a reconised fitter to satisfy your insurance company :-X
Martin knows an establishment that's LPGA approved and will certify a DIY installation...
It's where I got mine from!!
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Why bother to buy a V6 and LPG it..
Leave it alone and enjoy it as it is.. :y
Because it halves the fuel costs ;D
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Just been looking into different style of tanks, and noticed you can get 36ltr sill tanks?? Wondering (probably not...) if there is such a think which may fit the Omega?!
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Why bother to buy a V6 and LPG it..
Leave it alone and enjoy it as it is.. :y
Because it halves the fuel costs ;D
That would be the obvious reason.. :D I worked that one out.. :D
I would still leave it as it is though, Just my opinion.. :y
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Why bother to buy a V6 and LPG it..
Leave it alone and enjoy it as it is.. :y
Because it halves the fuel costs ;D
That would be the obvious reason.. :D I worked that one out.. :D
I would still leave it as it is though, Just my opinion.. :y
And all opinions are welcome :)
I want to be totally certain, before I make any decisions...
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Just been looking into different style of tanks, and noticed you can get 36ltr sill tanks?? Wondering (probably not...) if there is such a think which may fit the Omega?!
Errr dont think so....the omega is too low to the ground.....sill tanks and under wing tanks are for 4x4's that are high up off the ground
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Presumably, the gas/petrol are switchable in the car? If this is the case you could switch to petrol when you want that extra bit of oomph and then to gas when you want frugality?
If this is the case then it appers a bit of a no brainer considering that you do a lot miles each year.
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Unless you've found somewhere cheap to get it converted.....£1300 is cheap!....Normally looking at about £2k for a V6
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Why bother to buy a V6 and LPG it..
Leave it alone and enjoy it as it is.. :y
I agree with spongebob.. It will be cheaper to convert a 4 cylinder small engine car and maintenance will be more easy..
Although V6 can be converted succesfully, in the future problems will be more complex..
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Why bother to buy a V6 and LPG it..
Leave it alone and enjoy it as it is.. :y
I agree with spongebob.. It will be cheaper to convert a 4 cylinder small engine car and maintenance will be more easy..
Although V6 can be converted succesfully, in the future problems will be more complex..
They are not bad to convert - worst problem is finding somewhere to put the evaporator.
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What are the tank options? Could a tank be fited where the spare wheel is? The large cylinder tanks seem to rob a lot of space out of the saloons.
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What are the tank options? Could a tank be fited where the spare wheel is? The large cylinder tanks seem to rob a lot of space out of the saloons.
No tank - and by the look of it no tank valve.
Best off with a cylinder tank, light cluster would be blocked
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Best off with a cylinder tank, light cluster would be blocked
Ah yes, never thought about that.
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I can get a pro SGI conversion for £1300 if I take it to Yorkshire.
Or can do it myself for £600/£700.
I want a BIG cylinder tank.
My biggest concerns with DIY, are:
1) Where to mount the filler (I don't want to drill the rear panel, and don't have a shin breaker)
2) Running the gas pipe underneith to the engine bay
3) Certification.
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Mount the filler in the plastic bumper like i have then atleast it will not rust, I have seen sooooo many cars with the LPG filler in the rear wing and its all rusty around it as the cut holes has not been sealed correctly atleast if its in the plastic of the bumper it will never rust, and as for small shunts in the bumper the attaching hose is a flexy hose.
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Mount the filler in the plastic bumper like i have then atleast it will not rust, I have seen sooooo many cars with the LPG filler in the rear wing and its all rusty around it as the cut holes has not been sealed correctly atleast if its in the plastic of the bumper it will never rust, and as for small shunts in the bumper the attaching hose is a flexy hose.
I agree, makes the DIY fitment much easier :y
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Why bother to buy a V6 and LPG it..
Because the LPG will pay for itself within the space of a few months :)
And then my fuel will be half the cost!
Open to all ideas though, this is a VERY nice car, and I want to do what's right for it, as well as for me :y
I'd say more like a year, £70 a month on fuel thats £840 a year. With gas mpg a little lower, id say it would be at least 1 year before its paid itself back.
You also tend to only keep cars for a matter of weeks sometimes.... so must keep it to get the money back. There is a 100L tank in the boot of my Elite, it does take up a considerable amount of space.
I would not bother LPG'ing it, just keep it and run it as is.
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On the fuel cost question. If the cost of LPG is half the cost of petrol, when you take the poorer efficiency into account, and you spend £70 on fuel per week. The saving would be £35 times 52 weeks which equals £1820 per year. At a cost of £600 DIY you would recoup your investment in 4 months and would then start to reap the benefits. Lets assume that you can't use LPG all the time and that these calculations are optimistic by 30% then you would still start to see the benefit in 6 months assuming DIY and that the certification issues are not too costly.
For me, who spends about £70 per month on fuel, the payback would be too long at 2 years.
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oopss your £70 a week i think? humm i'd still not bother to gas it
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boot space is a major consideration - its one of the biggest in terms of why im considering a diesel, which a chip, economy should be pretty good, almost at lpg standards??
I spend around £200-£300 a month on fuel..
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I must agree with a few of the others don´t understand why you would want to change a great v6 engine
into a Eunuch, because thats what it will be like after the Conversion when using Gas
and as Golfbuddy has said, 2 years before you start to reap in the benefits
If i had to think of my fuel consumption, then i wouldnt have bought a v6 to start with.
Sorry if this is answer is not liked, but just my opinion :y
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oopss your £70 a week i think? humm i'd still not bother to gas it
Just to clarify, James's figure was £70 per week. :)
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I must agree with a few of the others don´t understand why you would want to change a great v6 engine
into a Eunuch, because thats what it will be like after the Conversion when using Gas
and as Golfbuddy has said, 2 years before you start to reap in the benefits
If i had to think of my fuel consumption, then i wouldnt have bought a v6 to start with.
Sorry if this is answer is not liked, but just my opinion :y
VEry little difference in performance with SGI
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On the fuel cost question. If the cost of LPG is half the cost of petrol, when you take the poorer efficiency into account, and you spend £70 on fuel per week. The saving would be £35 times 52 weeks which equals £1820 per year. At a cost of £600 DIY you would recoup your investment in 4 months and would then start to reap the benefits. Lets assume that you can't use LPG all the time and that these calculations are optimistic by 30% then you would still start to see the benefit in 6 months assuming DIY and that the certification issues are not too costly.
For me, who spends about £70 per month on fuel, the payback would be too long at 2 years.
LPG is usually less than half petrol price and economy is slightly worse, so works out about half cost.
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oopss your £70 a week i think? humm i'd still not bother to gas it
Just to clarify, James's figure was £70 per week. :)
Payback in 6 months
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On the fuel cost question. If the cost of LPG is half the cost of petrol, when you take the poorer efficiency into account, and you spend £70 on fuel per week. The saving would be £35 times 52 weeks which equals £1820 per year. At a cost of £600 DIY you would recoup your investment in 4 months and would then start to reap the benefits. Lets assume that you can't use LPG all the time and that these calculations are optimistic by 30% then you would still start to see the benefit in 6 months assuming DIY and that the certification issues are not too costly.
For me, who spends about £70 per month on fuel, the payback would be too long at 2 years.
LPG is usually less than half petrol price and economy is slightly worse, so works out about half cost.
oopss your £70 a week i think? humm i'd still not bother to gas it
Just to clarify, James's figure was £70 per week. :)
Payback in 6 months
Thats what I said. :y
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Just confirming for the antis.
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Just confirming for the antis.
Martin, did you get a reply from the seller of the front-end?
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Just confirming for the auntis.
No good. My aunti drives a diesel. ::)
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Just confirming for the auntis.
No good. My aunti drives a diesel. ::)
My Auntie is happy too, drives us all up the wall ;D ;D
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if you dont need the boot then may be worthwhile. imho, it takes too much room.
my fuel costs are same as yours James, but I stick to petrol for performance, convenience, I like my boot, and I take it to France on the tunnel trains (lpg banned)
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Just confirming for the antis.
Martin, did you get a reply from the seller of the front-end?
Not yet :(
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So far
12 for DIY conversion
3 for Pro
7 for not bother.
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So far
12 for DIY conversion
3 for Pro
7 for not bother.
It doesn't really matter what people vote. It's your car, your set of circumstances and, most importantly, your money ;)
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I do 1k/month @ £110
You can get LPGcheaper if you look around, (passed a seller 35p at junction A5/A449 last weekend)
With a single point I only lost 9 BHP on the rolling road against petrol.
Convert it (another string to the bow, another tick in a different box) :) :)
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I was just about to add a similar thread when I found this.
I am also looking in to doing the LPG thing to my 3.0 Elite. I am doing 500-600 miles/week and it is crippling the finances. I have even taken to driving the wifes 306 TD [smiley=cry.gif].
I am going to do it, I'm just not sure weather to DIY it, or pay a small fortune. I have been quoted between £1500-£2200 for it to be fully fitted. I pass the LPG supplier that Issunaz has mentioned every morning and evening, so a supply is no problem. I expect I'll end up doing it myself.
As for the tank position, I have seen photos on the web of a converted Omega with the "donut" tank in the spare wheel well. If it would get in the way of the light cluster, then they wouldn't have put it there...would they?
I say GO FOR IT!!!!! 3.0 V6 power and refinement, but the running costs of a crappy 306 TD. I like the idea of that.
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http://www.autogas-micromise.com/
Quoted £1495 fully fitted & certified by them, takes 3-4 days to do and they loan you a courtesy car while they do the work :y
Needless to say I know where my next lot of cash is going...
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i have been quoted 1250 to have mine done so over the winter it will be going in for it.....
I do 40k a year so i dont think it will be too long before i see my money back and they even said with the car at 140,000 it would still be worthwhile.
If you have the time then DIY it and smile at getting fuel at half price
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So far
12 for DIY conversion
3 for Pro
7 for not bother.
It doesn't really matter what people vote. It's your car, your set of circumstances and, most importantly, your money ;)
Agreed . And its your risk.
Only an idea proffesional job will be safer than DIY..As they have equipments to measure even small leaks .
I have used LPG in the past with my previous car.Economy is really good (beginning)
But if you start using the car more (happened to me) economy will be worser than before (from the parts)
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I don't really have time to DIY mine with being at uni :( so the courtesy car is whats making me seriously consider it.
I'd be averaging £70 to £100 a week in fuel, so anything to half that will easily make me smile :)
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It's a shame there aren't more tank options for the saloon because I'd convert mine if it didn't mean losing half the boot.
I'm surprised no-one has considered exchanging the petrol tank for something smaller and using the space thus saved for an LPG tank. I guess that's down to having to engineer a different solution for each car but there are companies around that'll make custom fuel tanks in either plastic or aluminium for reasonable money.
How much range could you get out of a doughnut tank in the spare wheel recess?
Kevin
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So far
12 for DIY conversion
3 for Pro
7 for not bother.
It doesn't really matter what people vote. It's your car, your set of circumstances and, most importantly, your money ;)
Agreed . And its your risk.
Only an idea proffesional job will be safer than DIY..As they have equipments to measure even small leaks .
I have used LPG in the past with my previous car.Economy is really good (beginning)
But if you start using the car more (happened to me) economy will be worser than before (from the parts)
Soapy water works well and you can spend longer and do a neater job
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It's a shame there aren't more tank options for the saloon because I'd convert mine if it didn't mean losing half the boot.
I'm surprised no-one has considered exchanging the petrol tank for something smaller and using the space thus saved for an LPG tank. I guess that's down to having to engineer a different solution for each car but there are companies around that'll make custom fuel tanks in either plastic or aluminium for reasonable money.
How much range could you get out of a doughnut tank in the spare wheel recess?
Kevin
Yeah, losing the boot means running on wet fart juice isn't an option for me. But I doubt there is enough space in place of 75l petrol tank for a decent lpg tank - bearing in mind you'll still need a 30l-ish tank for those times when you can't get fart juice.
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fart juice.
you really don't like LPG, do you? :P
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It's a shame there aren't more tank options for the saloon because I'd convert mine if it didn't mean losing half the boot.
I'm surprised no-one has considered exchanging the petrol tank for something smaller and using the space thus saved for an LPG tank. I guess that's down to having to engineer a different solution for each car but there are companies around that'll make custom fuel tanks in either plastic or aluminium for reasonable money.
How much range could you get out of a doughnut tank in the spare wheel recess?
Kevin
Yeah, losing the boot means running on wet fart juice isn't an option for me. But I doubt there is enough space in place of 75l petrol tank for a decent lpg tank - bearing in mind you'll still need a 30l-ish tank for those times when you can't get fart juice.
fart juice !!! supper ;D :y
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the guy who is fitting mine has told me that side mounted donut tanks cannot be used now, the donut tank can only be used if the tank is horizontal on the floor.
I have been given the option of 60 or 75 litre tank that will sit behind the seats, having looked at it i don't think it will take up much nmore space than my subs
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A mate of mine had something called "torpedo tanks" fitted, went behind the cills on his Disco, can these be fitted to a meega ??
Just a thought ... :(
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It's a shame there aren't more tank options for the saloon because I'd convert mine if it didn't mean losing half the boot.
I'm surprised no-one has considered exchanging the petrol tank for something smaller and using the space thus saved for an LPG tank. I guess that's down to having to engineer a different solution for each car but there are companies around that'll make custom fuel tanks in either plastic or aluminium for reasonable money.
How much range could you get out of a doughnut tank in the spare wheel recess?
Kevin
Yeah, losing the boot means running on wet fart juice isn't an option for me. But I doubt there is enough space in place of 75l petrol tank for a decent lpg tank - bearing in mind you'll still need a 30l-ish tank for those times when you can't get fart juice.
fart juice !!! supper ;D :y
Did you mean super? ;D
James - LPG it. Then you can help Martin answer all the LPG questions on here. ;D
£700 - recouped in 4m. That saves you hundreds of pounds every year from then on. As for power - with LPG you can have the heaviest right foot in the world and not have to worry about the cost.
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A mate of mine had something called "torpedo tanks" fitted, went behind the cills on his Disco, can these be fitted to a meega ??
Just a thought ... :(
No...
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It's a shame there aren't more tank options for the saloon because I'd convert mine if it didn't mean losing half the boot.
I'm surprised no-one has considered exchanging the petrol tank for something smaller and using the space thus saved for an LPG tank. I guess that's down to having to engineer a different solution for each car but there are companies around that'll make custom fuel tanks in either plastic or aluminium for reasonable money.
How much range could you get out of a doughnut tank in the spare wheel recess?
Kevin
Yeah, losing the boot means running on wet fart juice isn't an option for me. But I doubt there is enough space in place of 75l petrol tank for a decent lpg tank - bearing in mind you'll still need a 30l-ish tank for those times when you can't get fart juice.
fart juice !!! supper ;D :y
Did you mean super? ;D
Yep ..Emphasized like my language :)
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.. and call me cynical but I swear the government are just waiting for a few more people to take it up before they spin some shock horror story about it being just as bad for the environment as petrol and whack up the duty on LPG.
Then again, I was saying that 8 years ago when I bought my last car and pondered an LPG conversion, then didn't bother. >:(
That had a horizontal spare wheel well too.
Kevin
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.. and call me cynical but I swear the government are just waiting for a few more people to take it up before they spin some shock horror story about it being just as bad for the environment as petrol and whack up the duty on LPG.
Then again, I was saying that 8 years ago when I bought my last car and pondered an LPG conversion, then didn't bother. >:(
That had a horizontal spare wheel well too.
Kevin
2 words - heating gas
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.. and call me cynical but I swear the government are just waiting for a few more people to take it up before they spin some shock horror story about it being just as bad for the environment as petrol and whack up the duty on LPG.
Then again, I was saying that 8 years ago when I bought my last car and pondered an LPG conversion, then didn't bother. >:(
That had a horizontal spare wheel well too.
Kevin
2 words - heating gas
Another 2 (buzz) words - Carbon Neutral - government said some time ago that it wanted to reduce energy used in homes, and easiest way to do that is to increase the tax.
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A mate of mine had something called "torpedo tanks" fitted, went behind the cills on his Disco, can these be fitted to a meega ??
Just a thought ... :(
No...
Just to expand on Jaimes correct answer.....under sill or under wheel arch tanks can only be fitted on hight up vehicles.....ie 4x4's for example....you have to have the clearance underneath to take them.
Omega wise.....saloon....big tank in the boot.....taking up to 1/3 of the space (70L tank) or estate like mine....raise the boot floor up a couple of inches and you can get a donut tank in (38L tank)
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A mate of mine had something called "torpedo tanks" fitted, went behind the cills on his Disco, can these be fitted to a meega ??
Just a thought ... :(
No...
Just to expand on Jaimes correct answer.....under sill or under wheel arch tanks can only be fitted on hight up vehicles.....ie 4x4's for example....you have to have the clearance underneath to take them.
Omega wise.....saloon....big tank in the boot.....taking up to 1/3 of the space (70L tank) or estate like mine....raise the boot floor up a couple of inches and you can get a donut tank in (38L tank)
My answer was just more concise ;D
Sorry, I was in a hurry :-[
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2 words - heating gas
The business of getting it into your car isn't trivial though, and it'd be a bit suspicious for me to be using tons of LPG for heating when I've got a natural gas supply for that :-/
Another 2 (buzz) words - Carbon Neutral...
Ah, Ruth Kelly and her "Zero Carbon Homes". Clearly no-one in government understands thermodynamics. I guess they'll each have a nuclear reactor humming away in the cupboard under the stairs.
and easiest way to do that is to increase the tax.
It's the only way the government will go. Anything else might require them to listen to experts (ones that haven't been previously paid off to toe the line) and make difficult long term decisions. Far less risky to whack up the tax and let people figure out their own way to avoid going broke or getting hypothermia ;D
Kevin
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Re the vertical tanks in the spare wheel well, well several of the major supliers are still selling them, Tinsley Tech, WTV, and Fesautogas, and there is no mention of a new ruleing on the LPGA website. It might be because the suplier didn't have any in, and he wouldn't make as much profit if he had to buy one. Yes, its true you can't remove the NS bulb cluster if you have a tank in the spare well, but you could reach the securing nuts and unscrew the light assembly so could gain access that way. It would be a pain, but how often do these bulbs go ?. Mine haven't gone in the almost 2 years of owning the car, so it might be a pain every couple of years if a bulb goes but........ Hi TB, 'Wet Fart Juice' no its ok, before it reaches the engine, it passes thro a filter (to remove any bits), and then thro an evaporator to turn the 'wet fart juice' into 'Dry Fart Juice', which runs nicely. Don't forget during one of the wars, they used to run cars on Methane Gas, although how they collected it from cows is anybody's guess !.
Cheers Ken
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So far
12 for DIY conversion
3 for Pro
7 for not bother.
It doesn't really matter what people vote. It's your car, your set of circumstances and, most importantly, your money ;)
Agreed . And its your risk.
Only an idea proffesional job will be safer than DIY..As they have equipments to measure even small leaks .
I have used LPG in the past with my previous car.Economy is really good (beginning)
But if you start using the car more (happened to me) economy will be worser than before (from the parts)
Soapy water works well and you can spend longer and do a neater job
Sorry but soapy water cant be sensitive as gas sensor devices ..
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Sorry but soapy water cant be sensitive as gas sensor devices ..
I'm sure anyone who was going to sign their name on an LPG certification would be just as thorough (if not more so) checking a DIY install as they would one of their own.
Kevin
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Oh I nearly forgot, leak testing, when I was at Night School learning how to weld properly, we were taught to use soap and water for checking Gas setups. Then they brought out a 'Leak Testing Spray', which was basically soap and water !. Also for those in the electronics environment we used to use IPA to clean solder flux from PCBs. Then Health and Safety banned the use of of this, so we had to start using Aerosol sprays, the main constuant of which was............ IPA !!!.
Life seems to go round in ever decreasing circles !, all these politicians who don't really have a clue about reality, making up rules that are meaningless/impossible to meet. All this stuff about Global Warming, its actually Climate Change. We are spending a fortune on insulating our homes to meet the new 0.3 thermal standard in case it gets colder, but there is a good chance that things will get warmer, so sod SEDBUK A boilers, we will all need Air Cons, presumably to a similar standard !.
Cheers Ken
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Sorry but soapy water cant be sensitive as gas sensor devices ..
I'm sure anyone who was going to sign their name on an LPG certification would be just as thorough (if not more so) checking a DIY install as they would one of their own.
Kevin
I must admit that I have bad memories finding this leak with standard practices...(another long story visiting many services)
The winner was the gas sensor device which proved I was right saying this car has leakage somewhere else..
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Oh I nearly forgot, leak testing, when I was at Night School learning how to weld properly, we were taught to use soap and water for checking Gas setups. Then they brought out a 'Leak Testing Spray', which was basically soap and water !. Also for those in the electronics environment we used to use IPA to clean solder flux from PCBs. Then Health and Safety banned the use of of this, so we had to start using Aerosol sprays, the main constuant of which was............ IPA !!!.
Life seems to go round in ever decreasing circles !, all these politicians who don't really have a clue about reality, making up rules that are meaningless/impossible to meet. All this stuff about Global Warming, its actually Climate Change. We are spending a fortune on insulating our homes to meet the new 0.3 thermal standard in case it gets colder, but there is a good chance that things will get warmer, so sod SEDBUK A boilers, we will all need Air Cons, presumably to a similar standard !.
Cheers Ken
... And with every round of new red tape everything gets more expensive, the country gets less productive and more UK jobs go to China and India... where they don't give a sh!t about health and safety or the mythical "Climate Change".
Kevin
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By the way looking in the number of views (600 and somethin) :o its seems half of the site is potential customer for LPG kits ;D
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"Sorry but soapy water cant be sensitive as gas sensor devices .. "
Does this matter ?. Its all well having something that can measure fractions of a part per million of hydrocarbon, but if someone farts this will upset the reading. The jointing technique used is to flare the pipe end and screw it into a fixing. This is the same technique I have been using for many years to make up brake pipes for several cars and they don't leak, and I would suggest the pressures involved in brake pipes is many times that in LPG feed pipes. The accepted Gas checking system is to pressurise the system, wait for a while and recheck for a drop. The LPG installation has a small volume, and is mainly liquid, so the soapy water check is as good a check as any.
Cheers Ken
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Well.It doesnt..Even your nose can tell if things go wrong..(or if somebody farts - I like that ;D)
But the facts here (in my country-After the installation you are on your own) push us to be extremely careful because its meaningless to have OK certificate (very easy to take) when you blow up to the sky.
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I think well engineered cars like the Omega are inheriently safe. because they are over-engineered to be so. If you had a leak like some people are noticing with the petrol pump pipes, you smell the petrol, but there are no combustion sources around to start a fire. All electrical connetions in the vacinity are well made and should not spark, so no ignition. If there was a gas leak, and the car was traveling, then any escaping gas would be dissapated by the air flow, and when you are parked, the solenoid at the gas tank should stop any fluid/gas flow from the tank, so the only possibilty will be the fluid/gas in the pipes. I only hope all these 'boxes' from foreign parts are similarly well designed.
Cheers Ken
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So far
12 for DIY conversion
3 for Pro
7 for not bother.
It doesn't really matter what people vote. It's your car, your set of circumstances and, most importantly, your money ;)
Agreed . And its your risk.
Only an idea proffesional job will be safer than DIY..As they have equipments to measure even small leaks .
I have used LPG in the past with my previous car.Economy is really good (beginning)
But if you start using the car more (happened to me) economy will be worser than before (from the parts)
Soapy water works well and you can spend longer and do a neater job
Sorry but soapy water cant be sensitive as gas sensor devices ..
Ahhh.....you mean those spray tins.....thats labelled as LPG leak detection spray.....that the lpg installer used on mine to track down a lpg leak. Blokey using it said to me 'its just soapy water really but the boss pays a fortune for them coz it looks good in front of customers' ;)
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Marketing theory says cover is more important than whats inside.. :)
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I was just about to add a similar thread when I found this.
I am also looking in to doing the LPG thing to my 3.0 Elite. I am doing 500-600 miles/week and it is crippling the finances. I have even taken to driving the wifes 306 TD [smiley=cry.gif].
I am going to do it, I'm just not sure weather to DIY it, or pay a small fortune. I have been quoted between £1500-£2200 for it to be fully fitted. I pass the LPG supplier that Issunaz has mentioned every morning and evening, so a supply is no problem. I expect I'll end up doing it myself.
As for the tank position, I have seen photos on the web of a converted Omega with the "donut" tank in the spare wheel well. If it would get in the way of the light cluster, then they wouldn't have put it there...would they?
I say GO FOR IT!!!!! 3.0 V6 power and refinement, but the running costs of a crappy 306 TD. I like the idea of that.
I used this supplier to convert a 3.6 Daimler and had no problems with it at all.
I believe a member used the same supplier for his Omega and it did not go so well.
Please research !!!
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Message received ;)
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just get on with it ,you know you want to and im sure your well capable :y
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2 words - heating gas
The business of getting it into your car isn't trivial though, and it'd be a bit suspicious for me to be using tons of LPG for heating when I've got a natural gas supply for that :-/
Another 2 (buzz) words - Carbon Neutral...
Ah, Ruth Kelly and her "Zero Carbon Homes". Clearly no-one in government understands thermodynamics. I guess they'll each have a nuclear reactor humming away in the cupboard under the stairs.
and easiest way to do that is to increase the tax.
It's the only way the government will go. Anything else might require them to listen to experts (ones that haven't been previously paid off to toe the line) and make difficult long term decisions. Far less risky to whack up the tax and let people figure out their own way to avoid going broke or getting hypothermia ;D
Kevin
I now someone that used to have two huge cylinder delivered every week and put it in his car, he used to tell them he did hot air ballooning ::)