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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: VX1 on 24 July 2007, 22:09:59
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I will be doing the oil cooler on the said car sometime this week.
1 Is this a hard job to do or more time consuming?
2 What will be needed as in parts wise?
3 Coolant flush (how many times)?
4 Oil change as well?
Can someone advise me on this as this will be the first time I will be doing this please.
Cheers Paul :y
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There is bugger all to it......remove the oil filter, drain the coolant, disconnect the two coolant hoses and then there is 4 bolts holding the heat exchanger/oil filter asembly (its all one lump) to the block, remove them and the whole lump comes off...
Clean well and fit with a new gasket......
Are you sure its the oil cooler gone......
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There is bugger all to it......remove the oil filter, drain the coolant, disconnect the two coolant hoses and then there is 4 bolts holding the heat exchanger/oil filter asembly (its all one lump) to the block, remove them and the whole lump comes off...
Clean well and fit with a new gasket......
Are you sure its the oil cooler gone......
Well he has told me that the oil cooler has been bypassed and there was like a white cream gundge in the water. (if I have got that the right way round). He has flushed it out a few times but now has a blockage somewhere I think. Also if the car is left for more than a day it has trouble starting. Left for about 5-7 hours she will start. New glow plugs have been fitted. What could be that problem?
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Injector bleed off pipes are the usual cause of poor starting on these.....
By by-passed, I assume the coolant lines have been disconnected and bypassed.
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Injector bleed off pipes are the usual cause of poor starting on these.....
By by-passed, I assume the coolant lines have been disconnected and bypassed.
First question, how do I sort that problem out with the Injector bleed off pipes?
Second question Yes the coolant pipes have been disconnected and bypassed.
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Simple to fix, replace the pipes....they are a fabric covered pipe that daisy chains from injector to injector and back to the pump.....
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Simple to fix, replace the pipes....they are a fabric covered pipe that daisy chains from injector to injector and back to the pump.....
Thnx MDTM will do that one first when I get the car. Now I take it the bypassed pipes will need to be reconnected once the oil cooler has been fitted (might sound a bit stupid coming from me), is there anything else I must do before fitting the new oil cooler first apart from flushing the system and draining the oil? Also how much will the oil cooler cost?
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you need to flush all the creamy crap out of the system first or the new one will block again and waste your time,you could try some low foam washing licuid in there and go for a drive then flush out and if ness repeat untill clear.Or try FORTE :ycooling system flush,,you can get that from vx dealers.
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you need to flush all the creamy crap out of the system first or the new one will block again and waste your time,you could try some low foam washing licuid in there and go for a drive then flush out and if ness repeat untill clear.Or try FORTE :ycooling system flush,,you can get that from vx dealers.
Thats what I told the guy to get. At least get me two tins of the stuff anyway to double check that it is all clear. Hopefully after this one he will bring all his Omegas to me to repair and service, I could be quids in on this one and ones in the future hey hey :y :y
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Try the low foam liquid first as it is a detergent which will break down the oil and Clean the surfaces of the hoses and coolant bottle.the coolant bottle can be the worst part to get clean as you cant get to the compartments inside. Then flush with the forte to get rid or the detergant. Good luck and keep us up to speed on how your doing.
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Simple to fix, replace the pipes....they are a fabric covered pipe that daisy chains from injector to injector and back to the pump.....
Know where I can get 2 or 3m of the pipes so I can do tractor - I imagine buying them as seperate parts may be expensive...
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Bleed off pipes always used to be going on MK3 astras. Used to just pop down friendly local garage and would replace for free :)
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Simple to fix, replace the pipes....they are a fabric covered pipe that daisy chains from injector to injector and back to the pump.....
Know where I can get 2 or 3m of the pipes so I can do tractor - I imagine buying them as seperate parts may be expensive...
I bought a kit for my Astra from a local motor factor - only a couple of quid. Obviously you'd need another 2 pipes
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Simple to fix, replace the pipes....they are a fabric covered pipe that daisy chains from injector to injector and back to the pump.....
Know where I can get 2 or 3m of the pipes so I can do tractor - I imagine buying them as seperate parts may be expensive...
I bought a kit for my Astra from a local motor factor - only a couple of quid. Obviously you'd need another 2 pipes
Could do with a cut-to-size length, as need to redo boost sensor pipe as well...
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Simple to fix, replace the pipes....they are a fabric covered pipe that daisy chains from injector to injector and back to the pump.....
Are the bleed off pipes these ones?
(http://www.mypicshare.com/thumbs/20070725/rqq3lhi4.jpg) (http://www.mypicshare.com/rqq3lhi4pic.html)
If not which ones?
(http://www.mypicshare.com/thumbs/20070725/ej3c569v.jpg) (http://www.mypicshare.com/ej3c569vpic.html)
If needing more pictures I can take some.
This is the condition of the rad tank!!
(http://www.mypicshare.com/thumbs/20070725/bddhmgi7.jpg) (http://www.mypicshare.com/bddhmgi7pic.html)
This is the pic of the bypass of the oil cooler.
(http://www.mypicshare.com/thumbs/20070725/l0vo7zwz.jpg) (http://www.mypicshare.com/l0vo7zwzpic.html)
Any comments and help will be appreciated. As you can see the engine has not been kept clean so this is the FIRST thing that gets done before I start on this.
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Looks to me like you,ve struck oil there boy.
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Looks to me like you,ve struck oil there boy.
Yes it looks like the cam cover gasket needs replacing as well!!
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Try the low foam liquid first as it is a detergent which will break down the oil and Clean the surfaces of the hoses and coolant bottle.the coolant bottle can be the worst part to get clean as you cant get to the compartments inside. Then flush with the forte to get rid or the detergant. Good luck and keep us up to speed on how your doing.
Would TRL be ok to use? And if so would it be ok to use neet? Thats what has been done to flush trough but still needs flushing as you can see from the pics.
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Sorry mate, whats trl.I used some persil type liquid on a cav red top engine which had a porus head. i flushed that through 10 times before i got all the oil out of the system. Heater matrix was blocked with creamy slime and had to blow that out with an airline.Everytime i put detergant into it i went on a 20 mile run up and down the A3 and then flushed out the detergant again and refilled with fresh liquid. No quick fix that i know,sorry.How does anyone run a car with a prob like that for so long before they say "i will have to get that fixed".You get stuck with the mess and are expected to clear up the crap.
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Sorry I cant spell when I am tired, I ment TFR (traffic film remover) what you used on vehicles to get the crap of the body work? I also need to know where the Injector bleed off pipes are so I can replace them. Are they on the right hand side of the head (as you look from the front) I guess thats where it will be?
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I dont recommend anything other than a water based detergant in the cooling system,as some componants ie hoses and stat may be affected by the use of some chemicals.sorry can t help with regards to the injector bleed as i have no experiance of diesels just cooling systems.DTM is the man to ask. ;)
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TFM works pretty well........Forte do a special flush for oil cooler failure which works realy well.
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Well I started to pull things off today and gave the engine a good clean which has helped, now I can see things and move things without getting to covered in oil. The water in the cooling system looks ok and not gungie (I did clean the expansion tank). Eventually got the car started after about half an hour and with jump leads. Found that the thermostat was not fitted properly (people not knowing what they are doing) and then found that the gasket was sticking out from the thermostat housing, thats possibly why the heater is blowing out cold air due to air getting into the system.
Secondly I took this off which is above the diesel pipes which is connected to the diesel pump.
(http://www.mypicshare.com/thumbs/20070726/59b4iwhy.jpg) (http://www.mypicshare.com/59b4iwhypic.html)
(http://www.mypicshare.com/thumbs/20070726/7bt413pv.jpg) (http://www.mypicshare.com/7bt413pvpic.html)
Is this the Injector bleed pipes? or is it the metal pipes where this sits above? Please advise.
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They are indeed the bleed off pipes......that engine is filthy and whats with all the shite wiring.....the vac pipe routing also looks very suspect.
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I have just sent you a pm Mark sorry you are to quick for me. Well unfortunately thats what happens when someone else buggers about with things that they don't understand!! Thats why the guy who owns the car brought it to me to get the job done properly. :)
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They are indeed the bleed off pipes......that engine is filthy and whats with all the shite wiring.....the vac pipe routing also looks very suspect.
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The wiring that you saw is for a 2 way taxi radio, but I will be taking that out and re-routing it. The vac pipes are there due to the cover's bieng in the boot so that will all be sorted out when it all goes back together. Unfortunately I didn't start pulling it all apart it was like it when I got the car.