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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: M-Tek Performance on 17 September 2007, 14:03:11

Title: TD Autobox update?
Post by: M-Tek Performance on 17 September 2007, 14:03:11
I know theres an update for the Petrol auto box, but is there one for the TD?
Title: Re: TD Autobox update?
Post by: VXL V6 on 17 September 2007, 14:07:31
Believe so, if its an AR25 / AR35 then yes I think so.

It's the gearbox ECU that's updated, not the Engine Management.

Title: Re: TD Autobox update?
Post by: M-Tek Performance on 17 September 2007, 14:47:50
Ta.

I know the box has an ECU :)

how much do VX charge for this?

what does it do?
Title: Re: TD Autobox update?
Post by: VXL V6 on 17 September 2007, 14:53:41
Much smoother operation, there are some threads dotted around on General Chat that give peoples opinions, i've never read a bad report!

Marks DTM & The Boy can do the update, VX would charge a lot more but I guess it's all down to geography and how far you could travel.

Title: Re: TD Autobox update?
Post by: M-Tek Performance on 17 September 2007, 15:00:52
travelling to Mark's wouldnt be so bad - I havent seen LB for a while so could injure two birds with one stone.
Title: Re: TD Autobox update?
Post by: Pitchfork on 17 September 2007, 19:59:41
Seem to remember that the ability to upgrade gearbox ECU is dependant on the age of the vehicle
I think TB knows what can & cannot be upgraded
IW
Title: Re: TD Autobox update?
Post by: M-Tek Performance on 17 September 2007, 23:15:47
this is a 99 S.
Title: Re: TD Autobox update?
Post by: TheBoy on 17 September 2007, 23:23:41
post 98 cars have flashable gearbox ECUs...

Although the ECUs are identical, obviously a different calibration file (map) is used in the gearbox ECU depending on the engine type set (eg, not point allowing a TD to rev to 6750rpm before changing up).

Not sure why, but the TD autbox upgrade, though an improvement, isn't as dramatic as the petrol ones...
Title: Re: TD Autobox update?
Post by: Pitchfork on 18 September 2007, 09:14:15
As I have a 96 TD which is not flashable, if I were to swap the ECU to one from a later TD (post 98) would there be any problem?
I could then get it upgraded couldn't I?
IW
Title: Re: TD Autobox update?
Post by: TheBoy on 18 September 2007, 19:09:33
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As I have a 96 TD which is not flashable, if I were to swap the ECU to one from a later TD (post 98) would there be any problem?
I could then get it upgraded couldn't I?
IW
Not a straight swap...
Title: Re: TD Autobox update?
Post by: M-Tek Performance on 19 September 2007, 22:14:44
i guess a petrol gearbox ecu swap isnt possible either?
Title: Re: TD Autobox update?
Post by: Jim on 19 September 2007, 22:36:12
Can this software upgrade be done on my 1996 omega elite 3.0 v6 auto
Title: Re: TD Autobox update?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 20 September 2007, 02:00:12
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Can this software upgrade be done on my 1996 omega elite 3.0 v6 auto

Unfortunately not without a change of ECU and some serious loom modifications! Not worth it, IMO..
Title: Re: TD Autobox update?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 20 September 2007, 02:01:20
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As I have a 96 TD which is not flashable, if I were to swap the ECU to one from a later TD (post 98) would there be any problem?
I could then get it upgraded couldn't I?
IW

This isn't possible - as the later ECU will have a different pin-out.

I investigated this at great length myself once, and cane to the conclusion it would be a huge challenge, and probs not worth it.
Title: Re: TD Autobox update?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 20 September 2007, 02:09:40
Having said that, I may be about to eat my own words. When I was having serious limp mode issues with my 1996 Elite, Mark spent the best part of a Saturday pulling my transmission electronics apart, and I learned heck of a lot.

He even "disected" my gearbox ECU, and pulled the BasicIOS chip out of it, to transplant into another ECU, as part of the troubleshooting process.

Now, I just wonder if you could flash the BIOS on a later ECU with the later firmware, and then plant the chip into an older ECU....



Title: Re: TD Autobox update?
Post by: Andy B on 20 September 2007, 02:17:43
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Having said that, I may be about to eat my own words. When I was having serious limp mode issues with my 1996 Elite, Mark spent the best part of a Saturday pulling my transmission electronics apart, and I learned heck of a lot.

He even "disected" my gearbox ECU, and pulled the BasicIOS chip out of it, to transplant into another ECU, as part of the troubleshooting process.

Now, I just wonder if you could flash the BIOS on a later ECU with the later firmware, and then plant the chip into an older ECU....



you're startin' to come across all garbled & not-understandabubble. It about time you turned the PC off & hit your pit.  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  :y
Title: Re: TD Autobox update?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 20 September 2007, 02:20:09
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Having said that, I may be about to eat my own words. When I was having serious limp mode issues with my 1996 Elite, Mark spent the best part of a Saturday pulling my transmission electronics apart, and I learned heck of a lot.

He even "disected" my gearbox ECU, and pulled the BasicIOS chip out of it, to transplant into another ECU, as part of the troubleshooting process.

Now, I just wonder if you could flash the BIOS on a later ECU with the later firmware, and then plant the chip into an older ECU....



you're startin' to come across all garbled & not-understandabubble. It about time you turned the PC off & hit your pit.  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  :y

I can't hit my pit until 6am, I'm on a run of night shifts :(

I have to keep myself amused/awake somehow ;D
Title: Re: TD Autobox update?
Post by: Andy B on 20 September 2007, 02:51:27
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Having said that, I may be about to eat my own words. When I was having serious limp mode issues with my 1996 Elite, Mark spent the best part of a Saturday pulling my transmission electronics apart, and I learned heck of a lot.

He even "disected" my gearbox ECU, and pulled the BasicIOS chip out of it, to transplant into another ECU, as part of the troubleshooting process.

Now, I just wonder if you could flash the BIOS on a later ECU with the later firmware, and then plant the chip into an older ECU....



you're startin' to come across all garbled & not-understandabubble. It about time you turned the PC off & hit your pit.  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  :y

I can't hit my pit until 6am, I'm on a run of night shifts :(

I have to keep myself amused/awake somehow ;D

Hopefully I won't ever have to do another night shift (night turn for the Pie eaters amongst us  ::)  ever again. I did 15 years of them in my last proper job! Enough for one life time.  :y
I'm on afternoons now but I must hit my fart pit sooner rather than later.  ;D  ;D  ;D :y