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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: omegadan2.2i on 07 October 2007, 20:51:53
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Can anyone tell me what the classic early symptoms are of a failing cam sensor on a 2.2i petrol?
Thanx in advance!
Dan
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Bad starting when warm (engine that is ) and possible rev limiting to about 4500rpm
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Bad starting when warm (engine that is ) and possible rev limiting to about 4500rpm
Hmm...okay. I'll tell you my problem. I have noticed recently that sometimes when accelerating quite quickly to 60 or 70mph, the car sometimes feels as though it is holding back slightly through the revs, and then the power comes back (like a 'surging' sensation).
I also had a strange experience when coming back from Skeg one night recently on the A158, driving at approx 55mph, the engine 'lost' all power for approx. 2 seconds, and then came back (with a slight jolt). Expected EML to light but nothing. Never happened since.....
Omega is a 2.2i CD Auto saloon with 35k on the clock.
Dan
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Possible failing crankshaft sensor.......but as you know it really needs to be code read first before thrwing lots of money at guess work.
Any Auto electrican should be able to read the codes, or someone on here may have an aftermarket code reader that may do the trick.
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Before condemning anything - you need to read your fault codes...
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Possible failing crankshaft sensor.......but as you know it really needs to be code read first before thrwing lots of money at guess work.
Any Auto electrican should be able to read the codes, or someone on here may have an aftermarket code reader that may do the trick.
I am planning to have a run down to Nottingham to see Marks DTM for an autobox upgrade in the near future, perhaps he could have a look with his TECH2. I hear that he is a top bloke!! :y
Thanx
Dan
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Possible failing crankshaft sensor.......but as you know it really needs to be code read first before thrwing lots of money at guess work.
Any Auto electrican should be able to read the codes, or someone on here may have an aftermarket code reader that may do the trick.
I am planning to have a run down to Nottingham to see Marks DTM for an autobox upgrade in the near future, perhaps he could have a look with his TECH2. I hear that he is a top bloke!! :y
Thanx
Dan
That he is mate, that he is ;)
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That's your best bet, get it Tech'd by Mark.
Camshaft sensor usually brings on the spanner light and/or EML light, after not starting first time when warm/hot.
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Possible failing crankshaft sensor.......but as you know it really needs to be code read first before thrwing lots of money at guess work.
Any Auto electrican should be able to read the codes, or someone on here may have an aftermarket code reader that may do the trick.
I am planning to have a run down to Nottingham to see Marks DTM for an autobox upgrade in the near future, perhaps he could have a look with his TECH2. I hear that he is a top bloke!! :y
Thanx
Dan
I'll second that too! :y
My camshaft sensor failed but if it wasn't for the EML i wouldn't have noticed! I understand that the CSS generates a 'hall effect' which it read by the ECU. Without this the ECU doesn't know what position the cams are in and in your case it might jump into limp mode...
CCS on a 2.0/2.2 isn't difficult, it can be done within the hour.
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That's your best bet, get it Tech'd by Mark.
Camshaft sensor usually brings on the spanner light and/or EML light, after not starting first time when warm/hot.
Correct AA....doesnt sound the prob to me...
BTW have you had cam sensor prob :-/ ::) ;D
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Bad starting when warm (engine that is ) and possible rev limiting to about 4500rpm
Hmm...okay. I'll tell you my problem. I have noticed recently that sometimes when accelerating quite quickly to 60 or 70mph, the car sometimes feels as though it is holding back slightly through the revs, and then the power comes back (like a 'surging' sensation).
I also had a strange experience when coming back from Skeg one night recently on the A158, driving at approx 55mph, the engine 'lost' all power for approx. 2 seconds, and then came back (with a slight jolt). Expected EML to light but nothing. Never happened since.....
Omega is a 2.2i CD Auto saloon with 35k on the clock.
Dan
Mine went with the exactly same problem. Had the codes read by local VX and found it was a EGR problem. Have blanked off this with a home made plate, but made too good a job of it. Had to drill a small hole underneath the piston side of the plate. Car responds as it should.
Get the code read and see if it is your cam sensor or some other problem.
hth
DaveL
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i replaced the cam sensor on mine, problems where:
bad starting when warm, would take lots of cranking. Spanner light would come on.
started it up once, pressed the gas pedal, nothing happened, no revs... no nothing.
Both problems have not come back since the new sensor
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would a crank sensor really cause that mis fire feeeling when travelling ( for my own info... :-/)
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would a crank sensor really cause that mis fire feeeling when travelling ( for my own info... :-/)
That's what we're saying, doesn't sound like the cam or crank sensors.
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would a crank sensor really cause that mis fire feeling when travelling ( for my own info... :-/)
That's what we're saying, doesn't sound like the cam or crank sensors.
gotcha ;)
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would a crank sensor really cause that mis fire feeling when travelling ( for my own info... :-/)
That's what we're saying, doesn't sound like the cam or crank sensors.
gotcha ;)
Just testing ;)
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For any sort of hesitation when moving / under load etc i would be doing the old faithfulls first...
Cam cover check, dispack check and ignition lead checks....
At least to eliminate them from the equation if nothing else..
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I have exactly the same problem, and I can not locate it. BTW how is your oil consumption as in case of mine this is the only problem, and now all service guys say that the power loss is because of the oil is burning, though the car does not smoke. I did not have error code as well and I already changed quite a number of bits and pieces costing me a fortune. Please let me know if you find the cause.
Thanks
mbraz
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Bad starting when warm (engine that is ) and possible rev limiting to about 4500rpm
Hmm...okay. I'll tell you my problem. I have noticed recently that sometimes when accelerating quite quickly to 60 or 70mph, the car sometimes feels as though it is holding back slightly through the revs, and then the power comes back (like a 'surging' sensation).
I also had a strange experience when coming back from Skeg one night recently on the A158, driving at approx 55mph, the engine 'lost' all power for approx. 2 seconds, and then came back (with a slight jolt). Expected EML to light but nothing. Never happened since.....
Omega is a 2.2i CD Auto saloon with 35k on the clock.
Dan
Mine went with the exactly same problem. Had the codes read by local VX and found it was a EGR problem. Have blanked off this with a home made plate, but made too good a job of it. Had to drill a small hole underneath the piston side of the plate. Car responds as it should.
Get the code read and see if it is your cam sensor or some other problem.
hth
DaveL
Had the EGR cleaned by an AA bloke I know after I had the exhaust manifold gasket was done as it was idling badly the day after (no EML light though). He cleaned it with WD40 and made sure the piston was nice and free before re-fitting. Not (knowingly) had a problem since.
That 'odd' two second episode on the A158 has not happened since but was a bit alarming as it 'felt' as though the engine cut-out (but obviously didn't).
I am not going to mess - I will get it TECH2'd by Marks DTM as he is only
Out of interest, what is the general average 'shelf-life' of such components as cam and crank sensors? Never had a problem with this sort of thing on previous motors.
Dan
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Camshaft sensor on a 2.2......Anytime soon on yours :(
Tho hopefully your be lucky :y
As soon you have probs starting from hot and EML comes on......if reading the codes mentions anything to do with camshaft sensor (p0340)......change it and your probs will go away :y
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I have exactly the same problem, and I can not locate it. BTW how is your oil consumption as in case of mine this is the only problem, and now all service guys say that the power loss is because of the oil is burning, though the car does not smoke. I did not have error code as well and I already changed quite a number of bits and pieces costing me a fortune. Please let me know if you find the cause.
Thanks
mbraz
I must say that the engine does not use ANY oil. Had the oil changed last March when last serviced (at 26k now done 35k) and has not used a drop during this time.
First port of call is TECH2 check and take it from there. Will keep you posted! :y
Dan