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Title: Removing Rear of Headlining - Facelift Saloon
Post by: damon80 on 09 October 2007, 11:17:34
Hi Folks,

I've got a 52-plate ex-police MV6.

It currently has a small stubby aerial at the back of the roof, and I want to change this for  beesting aerial.

My question is - how do I go about getting the headlining down a bit at the back so I can get at the fittings that hold the small aerial in place?

Cheers!
 :y
Title: Re: Removing Rear of Headlining - Facelift Saloon
Post by: Markie on 09 October 2007, 16:41:22
bumped to top....

personally when headlining comes off ( albeit in full) its hard to get back on.

I`d expect that its tucked in under the trim above windows with some connectors along it....

Anyone got anything more specific?
Title: Re: Removing Rear of Headlining - Facelift Saloon
Post by: Tafty on 09 October 2007, 18:57:11
Quote
bumped to top....

personally when headlining comes off ( albeit in full) its hard to get back on.

I`d expect that its tucked in under the trim above windows with some connectors along it....

Anyone got anything more specific?

Agree with you there Markie - I attempted this change of aerial when I first got mine. It caused me so much hassle trying to get at the underside of the existing aerial I gave up and left it as it was.  Although am quite happy at thefact I never changed it now.  Sorry can't be of any help but thought I'd share my experience.

Lee
Title: Re: Removing Rear of Headlining - Facelift Saloon
Post by: damon80 on 09 October 2007, 20:04:17
Thanks for that folks - much appreciated.  I did manage to get to the back of the aerial earlier though, by gently pulling back the panel that holds the high-level brake light.  Then you can pull the headlining down a bit to get access.

But this leads me to my next question...

The reason why I wanted to change the aerial was because the radio reception was poor.  I have now found the reason for this - the aerial that the car has been fitted with is an after-market one which is at the back of the glove box.

When I've looked at the back of the head unit, there is no other aerial lead (other than the s***e after-market job).

Any ideas where I would find the original aerial???
Title: Re: Removing Rear of Headlining - Facelift Saloon
Post by: Entwood on 09 October 2007, 20:06:46
On my elite the stubby aerial is for the telephone (CRT700) and the radio aerial is .. I believe... part of the heated rear windscreen ...


but I'm probably wrong ...  :)
Title: Re: Removing Rear of Headlining - Facelift Saloon
Post by: Kevin Wood on 09 October 2007, 20:24:55
Yep. The heated rear window on saloons is used as the radio aerial. There should be a coaxial aerial cable running from the head unit down the driver's side sill panel to a box on the rear parcel shelf which is a preamplifier and splits the radio signal from the heater rear window power supply.

The aerial connector on the rear of the radio frame is known to come loose, giving a rubbish signal.

Kevin
Title: Re: Removing Rear of Headlining - Facelift Saloon
Post by: damon80 on 09 October 2007, 20:40:16
Ahh, now this is starting to make a bit more sense now...!

Whereabouts on the rear parcel shelf should the preamp be?  A rough location, and description of what to look for, would be great as I'm not sure if Plod would have ripped it out?

Cheers folks
Title: Re: Removing Rear of Headlining - Facelift Saloon
Post by: Kevin Wood on 09 October 2007, 22:08:09
It's under the trim panel but above the metal panel. I'm guessing the trim panel needs to cone out of the interior of the car to get at it.

kevin
Title: Re: Removing Rear of Headlining - Facelift Saloon
Post by: davlad22 on 09 October 2007, 23:23:09
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I'm not sure if Plod would have ripped it out?
Possibly, but it might not have been originally supplied with cabling and ancillaries due to lack of headunit. Best of luck getting it sorted, I hate having no radio  ;)
Title: Re: Removing Rear of Headlining - Facelift Saloon
Post by: Kevin Wood on 09 October 2007, 23:49:54
If you remove the driver's side kick panel (behind the bonnet release) there should be a connector in the aerial cable here. Could be that it's just the bit from here to the head unit that's missing.

Kevin
Title: Re: Removing Rear of Headlining - Facelift Saloon
Post by: damon80 on 10 October 2007, 13:52:23
Thanks - I'll have a gander.

How o you get the drivers side kick panel off?  (I don't want to start ripping panels out gung-ho!  :o )
Title: Re: Removing Rear of Headlining - Facelift Saloon
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 October 2007, 14:12:29
As a first question.

When you look at the ehated rear window elements painted onto the glass......is there two vertical lines that are part of the element about 1/4 of the way in from either side.....?
Title: Re: Removing Rear of Headlining - Facelift Saloon
Post by: damon80 on 10 October 2007, 14:28:50
Yep, there is indeed 2 vertical lines - is that a good thing or a bad thing?!  :-/
Title: Re: Removing Rear of Headlining - Facelift Saloon
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 October 2007, 14:33:31
Thats good, those lines are the matching strips to support radio receptiona dn obviously the rear window would be the hardest thing to fit.

I suspect you will also find the aerial booster setup under the rear shelf cover to so you would only need a lead to connect it to the radio head unit and thats assuming it doesnt already run to the passnger side foot well (which is where it normaly hides)
Title: Re: Removing Rear of Headlining - Facelift Saloon
Post by: davlad22 on 10 October 2007, 14:34:44
^^^^^^^^^^^
Not the driver's side then as suggested by kevin?
Title: Re: Removing Rear of Headlining - Facelift Saloon
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 October 2007, 15:23:49
Every one I ahev worked on its been in the passenger footwel behind the left kick panel.

Some have a further coax in the drivers side to feed a telematics unit in the boot.
Title: Re: Removing Rear of Headlining - Facelift Saloon
Post by: damon80 on 10 October 2007, 20:31:47
How do I go about getting the kick panel off?  Is there a nack to it?

Title: Re: Removing Rear of Headlining - Facelift Saloon
Post by: damon80 on 11 October 2007, 10:52:20
Anybody any ideas?  :'(
Title: Re: Removing Rear of Headlining - Facelift Saloon
Post by: Kevin Wood on 11 October 2007, 11:45:52
IIRC, you need to remove the sill cover panel to expose one of the screws and there are another 1 or 2 (torx) screws in recesses in the panel itself.

Have a look in the howtos where there is a guide to fitting an amplifier. This covers removal of these panels.

Kevin
Title: Re: Removing Rear of Headlining - Facelift Saloon
Post by: damon80 on 11 October 2007, 12:56:23
Beltin' - I'll have a dabble later on.  :y
But what exactly is it that I'm looking for?  Is it some sort of box that you plug an aerial lead into?
Title: Re: Removing Rear of Headlining - Facelift Saloon
Post by: damon80 on 11 October 2007, 18:53:23
Right, I've had the passenger-side kick panel off, and here's what I found behind it

(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2779/p1010155db9.jpg)

(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7681/p1010154ug5.jpg)

Anybody any ideas which should be the aerial lead from that little lot??  :o
Title: Re: Removing Rear of Headlining - Facelift Saloon
Post by: Kevin Wood on 11 October 2007, 19:46:59
That grey wire with the black one taped to it looks familiar. I think the black wire is the power feed to the pre-amp and the grey one is coaxial cable for the aerial signal. You should be able to find it diving off under the parcel shelf if you ease the rear seat forwards at the back. There's a connector behind the kick panel in mine where it connects to a short section of wire that feeds the radio.

Kevin
Title: Re: Removing Rear of Headlining - Facelift Saloon
Post by: damon80 on 11 October 2007, 21:07:28
Thanks Kevin  :y

But when I've followed the grey and black wires up, they disappear into the abyss that is the back of the Omega's dashboard...  I've also had the head unit out, and can't find any sign of it at all  >:(

So, would I be best to remove the black stubby aerial (the one for the built-in phone, which my Omega ain't got) and fit a normal aerial in its place?

Any ideas???  I miss me radio now - there's only so many times you can listen to the Wurzels Greatest Hits on CD!  :-[  ;D
Title: Re: Removing Rear of Headlining - Facelift Saloon
Post by: damon80 on 12 October 2007, 13:34:24
Anybody...?  :'(