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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Dazzler on 30 October 2007, 09:06:51
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If anyone has the above could they please look up the fitting of Vx wiring loom for a towbar,1999 mini-facelift, saloon please.
As i have a loom and apart from the main rear lights i can't see where the rest of the loom plugs into.
TIA.
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TIS and EPC are copywrite items available only to dealers, but will see if a friend can help us out.... ;)
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If anyone has the above could they please look up the fitting of Vx wiring loom for a towbar,1999 mini-facelift, saloon please.
As i have a loom and apart from the main rear lights i can't see where the rest of the loom plugs into.
TIA.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1193501993
Is there any more info? :-? Wire colour & function of both the GM wires & generic 12N wiring colours. :-?
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Cant get help with TIS but will check my car fitting this afternoon when she gets it home from work.... ;)
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If anyone has the above could they please look up the fitting of Vx wiring loom for a towbar,1999 mini-facelift, saloon please.
As i have a loom and apart from the main rear lights i can't see where the rest of the loom plugs into.
TIA.
Can you post a picture of what you have bought? It might be possible to work it out from that.
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If anyone has the above could they please look up the fitting of Vx wiring loom for a towbar,1999 mini-facelift, saloon please.
As i have a loom and apart from the main rear lights i can't see where the rest of the loom plugs into.
TIA.
Can you post a picture of what you have bought? It might be possible to work it out from that.
I will try as soon as its daylight when i am at home ::)
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She got home late and it was dark by then. Hopefully will sort out a bit of wire tracing in the morning.....
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She got home late and it was dark by then. Hopefully will sort out a bit of wire tracing in the morning.....
Thanks Hotel21 ;)
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If anyone has the above could they please look up the fitting of Vx wiring loom for a towbar,1999 mini-facelift, saloon please.
As i have a loom and apart from the main rear lights i can't see where the rest of the loom plugs into.
TIA.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1193501993
Is there any more info? :-? Wire colour & function of both the GM wires & generic 12N wiring colours. :-?
Already answered this last week in your post in the electrical section...
Towbar cable colours are usually as follows...
Blue ------- Rear Fog Supply
Green ----- RH Flasher
White ------ Earth
Black ------ LH Side Lights
Yellow ----- LH Flasher
Brown ----- RH Side Lights
Red -------- Stop Lights
Purple ----- Rear Fog Lamps
Colours on vehicle harness:
Black / Blue : Fog Light
Black / White : Turn signal, Left
Red : +12v permanent
Grey / Black : Tail Lamp Left
Black / Yellow : Stop Lamp
Grey / Red : Tail Lamp Right
Black / Green : Turn signal, Right
Brown : Chassis / Negative
White / Black : Reversing Lamp
Adapter kit - Part No. 91149320 - provides connection between car loom and towbar wiring harness.
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Some pictures.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o257/daz430/DSC00659.jpg)
These connect to side lights and brake lights.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o257/daz430/DSC00661.jpg)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o257/daz430/DSC00660.jpg)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o257/daz430/DSC00658.jpg)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o257/daz430/DSC00657.jpg)
Side and brake other side.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o257/daz430/DSC00656.jpg)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o257/daz430/DSC00655.jpg)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o257/daz430/DSC00654.jpg)
Other pics conections unknown and also how the hell do you get all that loom to pass through a small hole in the bodywork??
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Last question first.... You disconnect wiring from trailer connection (taking note of what goes where, obviously....) then pass 9mm cable through 10mm hole, then reconnect.....
Are you simply looking for where each connector connects to the existing loom? If so, it will be in either of the rear wheel arches. remove the spare wheel and see whats tucked up there, towards the rear shock upper bolt??
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Looks like those connectors are designed to loop through the connectors on the back of the light clusters. The metal tag is probably a ground connection so it needs to go under a bolt in contact with the bodywork.
I'd say the best way to feed the cable through the bodywork would be to remove the towing connector, making a note of the connections then feed the wire through and reconnect it.
Kevin
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The towing connecter also has a big plastic block inside ans so also is hard to strip down.
Yes, i am looking to find out where all this plugs and plays into ::)
I can only find 1 spare plug in the boot area, it is in the middle of the rear slam panel but is different to any of the plugs on the loom.
Apart from the 2 i have said which connect to the L/h and R/h rear lights i can't see where any of the others go :(
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If this all came off an Omega I'd ask the seller how. But, this is the type of set up I got and chopped up to fit my Omega - I think mine was for a model of Astra. The plug that you have in your hand in the 6th photo should plug into a big multi relay module part number 90 513 262 (what's your German like? It also has Anhanger Modul) I baffled a few dealers with it, including the spark at dealer I got it from. There was also a buzzer that you could connect that I assume would opperate with indicators.
I gave up with it all in the end and made up a plug to fit into the square plug behind the trim using half a dozen plugs from the scrap yard.
Not much help I'm afraid.
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Last question first.... You disconnect wiring from trailer connection (taking note of what goes where, obviously....) then pass 9mm cable through 10mm hole, then reconnect.....
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That's what I did. The terminals do come out of the plug/socket, Honest!
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If this all came off an Omega I'd ask the seller how. But, this is the type of set up I got and chopped up to fit my Omega - I think mine was for a model of Astra. The plug that you have in your hand in the 6th photo should plug into a big multi relay module part number 90 513 262 (what's your German like? It also has Anhanger Modul) I baffled a few dealers with it, including the spark at dealer I got it from. There was also a buzzer that you could connect that I assume would opperate with indicators.
I gave up with it all in the end and made up a plug to fit into the square plug behind the trim using half a dozen plugs from the scrap yard.
Not much help I'm afraid.
So which ones do i need to fit ( keeping the MID happy?
Do i need this big module thing? Whats it for?
Do i need the buzzer, i thought with this loom all i needed was a 4 pin flasher unit and to fit a bulb in the dash???
Thanks for the help chaps, we will get there in the end..... :)
And i thought it would be easy....30 mins to fit the bar....30 days to wire it up :(
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So which ones do i need to fit ( keeping the MID happy?
:-/ Pass! I had another relay that I didn't use either. A 'Anhanger Blinkuberwachung' that I think is for the flashers
Do i need this big module thing? Whats it for?
Pass again! But if you can plug mine into your loom and it does something, you're more than welcome to it.
Do i need the buzzer, i thought with this loom all i needed was a 4 pin flasher unit and to fit a bulb in the dash???
Thanks for the help chaps, we will get there in the end..... :)
And i thought it would be easy....30 mins to fit the bar....30 days to wire it up :(
You don't need the buzzer, as you say a 4 pin flasher relay will do the job & another lamp in the dash.
Try plugging in to the car what you know is right, plug a trailer board into the 12N socket & see what you get and go from there.
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Have you got a 7 pin or 13 pin plug?
Could be that there is wiring on there for fridge supplies, etc. that you don't necessarily need. Also, what about the reversing and fog lights? The clusters for these are in the boot lid so the loom must connect somewhere else to supply these.
TBH, I think by now I would have wired the whole lot into x25 - the proper towing connector provided on the car's loom. All the wires you need in one place.
Kevin
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Have you got a 7 pin or 13 pin plug?
Could be that there is wiring on there for fridge supplies, etc. that you don't necessarily need. Also, what about the reversing and fog lights? The clusters for these are in the boot lid so the loom must connect somewhere else to supply these.
TBH, I think by now I would have wired the whole lot into x25 - the proper towing connector provided on the car's loom. All the wires you need in one place.
Kevin
Where is the x25plug then??
Does the MID still operate as normal??
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I had a look in the rear of mine today and it was WAAAAY too much wiring for a simple spanner monkey like me, I'm afraid.... :-[
The loom went up past the spare wheel into the rear bulkhead and there were various connectors, cross connectors and stuff en route and I simply did not have aclue.... Sorry.... :'(
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I had a look in the rear of mine today and it was WAAAAY too much wiring for a simple spanner monkey like me, I'm afraid.... :-[
The loom went up past the spare wheel into the rear bulkhead and there were various connectors, cross connectors and stuff en route and I simply did not have aclue.... Sorry.... :'(
Thanks for looking ;)
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X25 on my facelift saloon is behind the plastic trim panel at the rear of the boot that hides the lock mechanism and protects the boot sill IYSWIM.
It's a round multiway connector towards the driver's side, normally clipped into a hole in the crossmember there.
You might be able to get a kit from VX to plug stright in there. I cut the appropriate wires off the connector and extended them with a bit of multiway cable down to the towbar. Connections were soldered and then heatshrink sleeved for protection.
The only thing to bear in mind is that there's a relay socket in series with the brake light signal here which you need to bridge two connections on to get the brake lights to work. There's info in the ICE / electrical section on that. See this thread for starters:
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1190477322
Cheers,
Kevin
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It's a round multiway connector towards the driver's side, normally clipped into a hole in the crossmember there.
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Round must be face lift. My PRE face lift has a square plug.
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I have looked everywhere for the plug to connect to for the bbot lights ( reverse & fog ) but i can't find it any where >:(
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I have looked everywhere for the plug to connect to for the bbot lights ( reverse & fog ) but i can't find it any where >:(
Is it the white square-ish plug 3 pin? I looked all around my boot for the same plug the otherr day but couldn't find anything either.
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I have looked everywhere for the plug to connect to for the bbot lights ( reverse & fog ) but i can't find it any where >:(
Is it the white square-ish plug 3 pin? I looked all around my boot for the same plug the otherr day but couldn't find anything either.
Yep >:(
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How can GM supply a plug and play loom that doesn't have any plugs to play with.....arrggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh >:(