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Title: Car steering to the left
Post by: garbage456 on 09 November 2007, 18:33:55
hi,
I have noticed the car is steering to the left especially when I take the pedal of the accelerator.
Any Ideas please?
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: Danny on 09 November 2007, 19:18:43
wheel alignment and tracking is a place to start

have a look at your tyres and report back how they're wearing
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: Kevin Wood on 09 November 2007, 19:56:28
Does it pull under braking?

If it's affected more by acceleration and coming off the gas I'd say there's some play in the rear suspension. Could be alignment but check for dodgy bushes and the like before you shell out for wheel alignment.

Kevin
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: garbage456 on 10 November 2007, 07:45:13
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wheel alignment and tracking is a place to start

have a look at your tyres and report back how they're wearing

ok when the light gets better i will have a look
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: garbage456 on 10 November 2007, 07:47:06
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Does it pull under braking?

If it's affected more by acceleration and coming off the gas I'd say there's some play in the rear suspension. Could be alignment but check for dodgy bushes and the like before you shell out for wheel alignment.

Kevin

would pushing down on the rear off the car show anything?

Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: TheBoy on 10 November 2007, 10:49:28
moved to more appropriate section
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 November 2007, 10:54:04
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Does it pull under braking?

If it's affected more by acceleration and coming off the gas I'd say there's some play in the rear suspension. Could be alignment but check for dodgy bushes and the like before you shell out for wheel alignment.

Kevin

I totally agree...
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: hotel21 on 10 November 2007, 11:23:00
Check the easiest of easy first....

All tyres to correct pressures as per handbook...   :y

Choose a road that is FLAT as 99% have a crossfall or camber to the left anyway to allow water to drain to the gutter....   :y

Then, if still pulling left, think about swapping wheels side to side so as to, possibly, put the wear bias in the other direction.  If it evens out and now drives true then tyre wear is the cause and you now need to investigate the cause of the wear...

Also see this (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1191882438) regarding tyre run out....

HtH

B
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: Craig_R on 10 November 2007, 11:36:32
Mine has always pulled to the left and its had most of the steering parts ,top mounts and bearings, balanced, new well part worn tires, full set up by tony, and it still pull to the left a bit
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: Danny on 10 November 2007, 12:27:52
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Mine has always pulled to the left and its had most of the steering parts ,top mounts and bearings, balanced, new well part worn tires, full set up by tony, and it still pull to the left a bit

all your wheels need to be the same size ;D

thought about getting 4 brand new tyres and making sure the pressure's correct?
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: old cruiser on 10 November 2007, 15:35:20
may sound daft, but have you checked your tyre pressures?
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: garbage456 on 10 November 2007, 16:15:05
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may sound daft, but have you checked your tyre pressures?

yes you are the 4th person to say this, I did type it in my original post but I just realised it is not there any more, must of been another Internet explorer reset on Vista.

Thanks all for your help, I will try swapping the tyres over never thought of that.
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: garbage456 on 10 November 2007, 16:16:17
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moved to more appropriate section

Thanks sorry ICE is my default home page. woops.
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: garbage456 on 10 November 2007, 16:17:06
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Mine has always pulled to the left and its had most of the steering parts ,top mounts and bearings, balanced, new well part worn tires, full set up by tony, and it still pull to the left a bit

all your wheels need to be the same size ;D

thought about getting 4 brand new tyres and making sure the pressure's correct?

hi yes they are four brand new tyres, so I was told.
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: garbage456 on 10 November 2007, 16:20:48
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wheel alignment and tracking is a place to start

have a look at your tyres and report back how they're wearing

Yes all tyres are wearing ok but I have noticed the front passenger side is a different make (michellin) all the rest are Nexen.

Strange that.
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: Craig_R on 10 November 2007, 16:33:55
i bet that tire has been changed because it was worn out on the inner shoulder.

Camber can be a sign of that and pulling to the left. you said you had 4 whel alignment done but was it a full set up where camber is checked ?
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: garbage456 on 10 November 2007, 16:35:17
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i bet that tire has been changed because it was worn out on the inner shoulder.

Camber can be a sign of that and pulling to the left. you said you had 4 whel alignment done but was it a full set up where camber is checked ?

no the seller told me 4 brand new tyres (so i guessed they would all be the same, a bit of coincidence isnt it?)
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: Danny on 10 November 2007, 18:48:59
it might be that he'd replaced the old ones with nexens, then got a puncture in an irrepariable place, ie sidewall, quite soon into the tyre's life and then got a bargain michelin tyre and decided to shove that on instead, so the tread on all 4 tyres will still be quite similar in depth

i have 3 uniroyal rainsports and a federal :D
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: Olympia5776 on 10 November 2007, 20:27:49
My estate pulled to the left since I got it 4 years ago .I had the tracking checked at least three times and swopped front tyres and even changed them with no success. I even tried increasing the tyre pressure on that side to see if it would help.
However, I changed both lower front wishbones last Saturday and had a full 4 wheel alignment and camber adjustment done and joy of joys it sits straight and steady with no pull at all now ,even on these tracks , sorry roads over here .
What a difference. :y
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: garbage456 on 10 November 2007, 21:00:50
well who knows I gonna try tomorrow anyway to swap just the front ones.
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: garbage456 on 13 November 2007, 15:33:34
right got around to getting both the tyres off today, the one on the passenger side was so hard could not get it off but did get the drivers side off.
and the inside one inch is basically bald, and at a hard look it looks the passenger side could be the same again the inside (nearest the engine) is getting to bald.
so I will have to go and replace the tyres today if I can.
Is this trackingor balance or something worse.
Please help
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 13 November 2007, 16:10:55
Its in-correct front camber....not tracking.
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: garbage456 on 13 November 2007, 16:14:28
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Its in-correct front camber....not tracking.

front camber ok, can that be done by the tyre fitters or is that a main dealer only?
thanks
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: garbage456 on 13 November 2007, 16:18:03
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Its in-correct front camber....not tracking.[/quote]

front camber ok, can that be done by the tyre fitters or is that a main dealer only?
thanks

Just wanted to confirm that it is front only the rears seem fine.
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: ffcgary1 on 13 November 2007, 16:18:10
Put the nexan on the front and the michelin on the back drivers side and see what happens,let us know. :y
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: garbage456 on 13 November 2007, 16:21:15
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Put the nexan on the front and the michelin on the back drivers side and see what happens,let us know. :y

I never thought of that, still i got to go to the garage anyway as the tyres are bald.
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: ffcgary1 on 13 November 2007, 16:22:11
 You need to get the CAMBER set by tony at wheels in motion in hemel hempstead.
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: ffcgary1 on 13 November 2007, 16:23:50
pls update your profile as to where you are located.
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: garbage456 on 13 November 2007, 16:24:14
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You need to get the CAMBER set by tony at wheels in motion in hemel hempstead.
I live in carshalton, is it done from his house or his business.
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: garbage456 on 13 November 2007, 16:24:51
Could you tell me more about Tony as I not heard about him before on here.
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: garbage456 on 13 November 2007, 16:26:34
I have just updated my profile
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: ffcgary1 on 13 November 2007, 16:27:19
Blimey just down the road from me , his buisness is in hemel but worth the drive to him.I had mine done by him last month and he knows his job, well recommended by me and every one who has been there.
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: Elite Pete on 13 November 2007, 16:31:08
He is that good one of the members on here drove down from Bonnie Scotland :y
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: garbage456 on 13 November 2007, 16:31:24
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Blimey just down the road from me , his buisness is in hemel but worth the drive to him.I had mine done by him last month and he knows his job, well recommended by me and every one who has been there.

hi how do i get in contact with him please?

what is his user name as well
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: Kevin Wood on 13 November 2007, 16:34:42
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Blimey just down the road from me , his buisness is in hemel but worth the drive to him.I had mine done by him last month and he knows his job, well recommended by me and every one who has been there.

hi how do i get in contact with him please?

what is his user name as well

http://www.wheels-inmotion.co.uk/

Did a great job of my car a couple of weeks back too :y

He is a user on here too. wheels-in-motion IIRC.

Kevin
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: garbage456 on 13 November 2007, 16:35:02
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Blimey just down the road from me , his buisness is in hemel but worth the drive to him.I had mine done by him last month and he knows his job, well recommended by me and every one who has been there.

blimey yeah you only live in Mitcham, I used to live there until January
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: garbage456 on 14 November 2007, 13:15:43
GREAT NEWS, FIXED IT.

It is a long story but the tracking has fixed it I will type up what happended later today.
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: garbage456 on 16 November 2007, 13:21:32
Just to confirm the problem was the tracking.

What I did was take off the front driver side tyre and saw the inside was bald completely.

Went to swap over the tyres with the passenger side but couldn't get it off even after taken off all the bolts, so i went into the car and turned the steering wheel to the left to have a look at the passenger side, it to on the inside was bald.

So i thought that is it I am taking this in.

In total it was £136 with the tracking.

WOW what a difference it has made to the driving, it is now as light as a feather and it is not going to the left anymore.

Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 16 November 2007, 13:48:33
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Just to confirm the problem was the tracking.

What I did was take off the front driver side tyre and saw the inside was bald completely.

Went to swap over the tyres with the passenger side but couldn't get it off even after taken off all the bolts, so i went into the car and turned the steering wheel to the left to have a look at the passenger side, it to on the inside was bald.

So i thought that is it I am taking this in.

In total it was £136 with the tracking.

WOW what a difference it has made to the driving, it is now as light as a feather and it is not going to the left anymore.


Beware and watch the tyre wear closely.....narrow bands of wear are not down to tracking....such wear types are camber related.

Tracking results in faster wearing of tyres but, over the full face, a narrow band sudgests the tyre contact patch on the road is smaller than intended which will be the camber.
Title: Re: Car steering to the left
Post by: garbage456 on 16 November 2007, 13:53:55
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Just to confirm the problem was the tracking.

What I did was take off the front driver side tyre and saw the inside was bald completely.

Went to swap over the tyres with the passenger side but couldn't get it off even after taken off all the bolts, so i went into the car and turned the steering wheel to the left to have a look at the passenger side, it to on the inside was bald.

So i thought that is it I am taking this in.

In total it was £136 with the tracking.

WOW what a difference it has made to the driving, it is now as light as a feather and it is not going to the left anymore.


Beware and watch the tyre wear closely.....narrow bands of wear are not down to tracking....such wear types are camber related.

Tracking results in faster wearing of tyres but, over the full face, a narrow band sudgests the tyre contact patch on the road is smaller than intended which will be the camber.

i will be keeping a close eye on it, cheers