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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Terry_Seyforth on 31 October 2007, 09:28:50
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:( Hi I have bought a omega 2002 2.6 and when I bought it the cd changer was working, although I had to ease the changer out with the help of a small srew driver as it didnt eject, it seems one of the little screws in the changer was lose and catching when trying to eject, so I got it out and retightened the little screw, it goes in and out now with ease, but now after checking the cd's it comes up with there are NO CD'S. I have tried to get the front panel off but it wont budge, it seems the right side is lose anyway which I normally just push into place, but the left side just wont come out, I bought the removing tool from halfords but tried and tried, even managed to scratch the face in the process, please help.
Thanks
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Which 'little screw' did you tighten? Was it within the changer itself or on the magazine?
Probably a silly question, but i presume you have inserted the discs into the magazine the correct way up? I've seen it happen!
Also, can you hear the changer mechanism opening the magazine and moving between the discs when inserted, and does the correct sequence appear on the display...1, 2, 3, 4 etc. before it shows no disc.
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Yes the little screw was on the cartridge that you remove to take the cd's out, yes I have put the cd's in the right way, I have even tried the wrong way ::) .
yes it also checks the cd's the display says it is checking, it checks all four then it says NO CD.
So it seems there is a error within the lazer etc. so I was hoping to take the facia off, which I cant seem to do, Im supposing someone in the past must have tried as the right side isnt fixed but the left is, when I bought this car they put a cd in and it played, but since i repaired the cartridge it doesnt anymore, although the problem may have stemed from initially trying to prize the cartridge from the cd player, (the little screw was preventing) carefully of course, so have you any tips to getting the facia off. Thanks :'(
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...so have you any tips to getting the facia off. Thanks :'(
Yes, don't try and force it off, because it's not meant to come off!
The clips may be broken at one side, hence it being slack, but the facia can only be safely removed once the entire headunit is removed.
You need to remove the headunit by inserting the 'tool' into the four holes, two at either end of the headunit. You will of course have to remove the grub screws from the holes first.
With regard to the 'tool', i've always found these to be pretty poor, i always use ball ended allen keys for removing units, never fails.
Also, when you are trying to remove it, don't pull on the facia, or try to prise it out with a driver, no matter how tempted you are, you'll only damage it. With your 'tool' inserted and located properly, you push each one away from the centre of the unit whilst pulling at the same time. ie. the left to the left and the right to the right, while pulling towards you. If the tool, or allen keys are located properly they shouldn't come out.
It is tight, but it will come with a bit of patience.
With regard to the screw you tightened, remove it completely and see if it makes a difference.
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Grub screws what grub screws ?
Can you explain a bit more, didnt know anything about grub screws, I have the tool from halfords that you put into the four holes, but as i said the right side is lose, but the left just wont budge, maybe the grub screws are still in place, help
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Grub screws what grub screws ?
Can you explain a bit more, didnt know anything about grub screws, I have the tool from halfords that you put into the four holes, but as i said the right side is lose, but the left just wont budge, maybe the grub screws are still in place, help
If you are able to push the removal tool into the holes then the grub screws are removed. If, however, you cannot inert the tool then the grub screws are probably still inserted and you'll need a small allen key to remove them. From memory, the tool should go in about an inch or so.
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Well I can push the tool right in, I dont know exactly how far you are ment to push them in, the ends are shaped for the removal, each tool is sort of half round that fits top and bottom, on both sides, the length is about 2 1/2" and you can push this right in, so I can only think maybe someone has damaged the part that these tools lock onto because no matter whether I put them in 1/4 " or 2 1/2" s nothing happens. >:(
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...so I can only think maybe someone has damaged the part that these tools lock onto...
If that were the case the headunit would come out even easier!
Like i said previously, i've always found those tools to be piss-poor.
Take it back, tell them it's crap and not fit for it's purpose and buy some ball end allen keys. The allen key method has never ever let me down. :y
Remember, key to not damaging anything, is patience. ;)
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Presumably its a CDR2006 radio. The changers on this do seem to be troublesome :(
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I will try the allan key as you said, i havent much patience, >:(
Its hard because you cant see what you are trying to latch onto.
All this and i dont know if i will be able to repair it anyways :-/
As for the cd I dont know what type it is, but im sure i will have the problem one.
I will let you know if the allan keys work.
Thanks :-/
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I will try the allan key as you said, i havent much patience, >:(
Its hard because you cant see what you are trying to latch onto.
All this and i dont know if i will be able to repair it anyways :-/
As for the cd I dont know what type it is, but im sure i will have the problem one.
I will let you know if the allan keys work.
Thanks :-/
When you push the allen keys through the holes you will feel them 'click' into place, you should at this point feel a little more resistance, that's you located. :y
Make sure the keys you use are large enough, too small and they won't catch on the clips. ;)
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Thanks I will try, although when I put the removal keys in I dont hear a click, but as you said they are pants.
I will get the allan keys today.
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i know what the problem is. ive taken many out of omegas
and most are sods.
to be honest the clips are probably free.
but the stereo is so tightly wedged into the cage
you need to lube it.
a tiny bit of wd40 or something will do the trick
although it will stink
it will get the stereo out without pulling the front off !
stick your fingers into the tape slot if you have one and pull it from there as well as with the removal tools.
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Just a little confused now, doesnt just the wallnut front come off, it seems like you are saying the front and the cd changer comes out as one :-?
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Just a little confused now, doesnt just the wallnut front come off, it seems like you are saying the front and the cd changer comes out as one :-?
The walnut surround doesn't need to come off in order to remove the headunit. ::)
The headunit/changer is removed, leaving the surrounding trim, heater controls, ashtray, hazard and TC switches etc. intact. :y
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Ok I wasnt looking at the surround coming off, switches etc, but the square bit of wallnut with the four holes, where the cd is behind, does the whole thing come out, not just the wallnut front, I have been trying to get the wallnut front off, not the whole cd out at the same time, so what you are saying is that when using the tool you pull the whole lot out, cd changer as well ?
Thanks :-/
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When you get the assembly out, check that the retaining clips have been fitted correctly.
The clips should be behind the holes in the faceplate, two of mine were not. Easily rectified if you can get it out in the first place.
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Just one thing I need to know when you put the allan keys/halfords removal keys, does the whole thing come out ? the square wallnut center with the four holes along with the actual CD player, or do you take the wallnut of first and then remove the CD housing ? :-/
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Sorry I am so thick, the centre bit isnt wallnut, its grey black ::)
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Ok.
The removal tools remove only the radio assembly and its not possible to get the outer surrounds out until the radio is removed.
The approach I take is when inserting the removal tools I insert them at an angle so the the prongs are pushing away from the radio. Once inserted you then need to push the loops on the tools towards the doors of the cars to compress the clips and pull.....you can, if you are careful, insert a infinger into the cassette slot to aid removal but, make sure you go a fair way in so you are pulling against the metal frame and not the plastic facia.
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Just one thing I need to know when you put the allan keys/halfords removal keys, does the whole thing come out ? the square wallnut center with the four holes along with the actual CD player, or do you take the wallnut of first and then remove the CD housing ? :-/
Yes. :y
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Yes the whole section, cd and tape came out together, didnt realise this was the case, as the front is loose to the right, I now realise that someone in the past has tried to get it out thinking as I did that just the facier comes out, they have broke the plastic retaining clips on the right, I just have to work out how to repair the cd changer now and find a way of securing the front properly.
Will I have to put the security code in when I replace the cd player.
Whats the procedure, I think someone told me that you have to disconnect the battery/power and reset ?
Thanks :-
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Eck, that should have been mentioned before it was removed...the code has to be inputted every time power is cut to the unit. The code is located on your car pass (little red 'passport' card perhaps in your handbook?), 4 digit code. Not to worry if you can't find it, dealers will be able to find the code, probably about £10 charge though. There is no way around this.
Terry I see now your dilema, I too tried to remove the single slot CDR500 HU from my astra last night, would it budge? Would it hell! There is nowhere to get your fingers in and my removal tools are crap also :-[ Might have to try the old WD, but don't particularly want it all over the interior :-? I don't think i'm particularly thick! :D
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Hi yes I did check before i took it out, i have the codes in the book that come with the car.
When you put the whole thing back in whats the procedure. i think it is saying SAFE but dont know what to do next ? I havent disconnected the battery yet , do i have to do this ?
Yes it is a nightmare to get out, and yes when i put it back properly i will put some tallo on the slider, alls i can say for the removal is once taken out the retraining screws that are in the four holes (which mine didnt have) you have to pull like mad, when the keys are in pull them outwards to create some grip and if possible get someone to pull holding the tape entrance, and just pull like mad, it should come out, mine did, it did need some force.
as for the wd 40 i also didnt fancy spraying that about. ( the problem is if you havent taken this out before you just dont know what your pulling, but when it as come out once you know what to do the next time)
so if anyone can tell me the procedure for getting the cd/tape/radio working again, please help. :-*